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The sun shines every day
For posterity
(my bold)
Originally Posted by Robin Holt
Morale amongst employees got at pretty good airing at the union briefing. From our (flight crew) perspective I personally struggle with this because I don't know how to spell 'low morale'. We work for one of the most profitable airlines in the world which is investing in aircraft and increasing pilot jobs; we have an Enterprise Agreement that is the envy of our peers around the world and which Geoff Dixon re-affirmed on Thursday he would continue to respect; we live and fly in a country that continues to enjoy unrivaled economic prosperity and political stability and "the sun shines every day as well"
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SMH is reporting that Canberra is starting to get rattled and that DJ is attacking Govt travel account.
Etihad are also directly attacking by advertising FLY WITH THE BEST.
Now all we need is Singapore Airlines to show their hand and it will really liven things up.
This is getting interesting if this folly starts to cost BIG bucks at home.
Perhaps the arrogance and deceptions of the Rat are not going unnoticed.
Shareholders take note.
Etihad are also directly attacking by advertising FLY WITH THE BEST.
Now all we need is Singapore Airlines to show their hand and it will really liven things up.
This is getting interesting if this folly starts to cost BIG bucks at home.
Perhaps the arrogance and deceptions of the Rat are not going unnoticed.
Shareholders take note.
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Jade Boiler is absolutely correct in the assessment of temporal outcomes. The maths show that ultimately the majority of the existing Qantas brand will be exterminated by this board and management group, to chase...
short/medium haul full sleeper A320's?
vs SQ's LCC B777?
really?
If this process is allowed to proceed now, (and it will if inertia of the victims is not converted to proactive defensive response...and I don't mean PIA) it will result in all current staff being directly affected, forget about it being merely 3%, it will be the great unwashed majority, it will just take a couple of years to implement.
I doubt that any part of the process will be slow, and I don't see that any component will be recognisably kangaroo once AJ and his minions of mental midgets have finished their dismantling of QFA.
AJ & the board have to go, as well as those of the senior management that have actively or passively supported this destructive divisive program.
short/medium haul full sleeper A320's?
vs SQ's LCC B777?
really?
If this process is allowed to proceed now, (and it will if inertia of the victims is not converted to proactive defensive response...and I don't mean PIA) it will result in all current staff being directly affected, forget about it being merely 3%, it will be the great unwashed majority, it will just take a couple of years to implement.
Qantas is going to be turned into slow roasted Kangaroo fillets.
AJ & the board have to go, as well as those of the senior management that have actively or passively supported this destructive divisive program.
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Lets also step up the pressure.
"Spirit of Australia" emblazened on aircraft was based on some underlying assumptions.
Now that those assumptions are seriously in question, should pressure be mounted to remove the decals?
That will get the message across to the Execs and Board who think they can get away with all this spin.
"Spirit of Australia" emblazened on aircraft was based on some underlying assumptions.
Now that those assumptions are seriously in question, should pressure be mounted to remove the decals?
That will get the message across to the Execs and Board who think they can get away with all this spin.
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Support our Qantas.... before it's too late
You are welcome to put these on the new facebookk page, I don't have it.
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Query for ALAEA?
Hi Steve,
I read with interest your link to the vote of no confidence in the board. As a cabin crew member with company issued shares, can I too send in my vote of no confidence?
Also, how will the company determine that those that fill in the forms are legitimate shareholders, as nothing on the documentation requires this info.?
Cheers!
I read with interest your link to the vote of no confidence in the board. As a cabin crew member with company issued shares, can I too send in my vote of no confidence?
Also, how will the company determine that those that fill in the forms are legitimate shareholders, as nothing on the documentation requires this info.?
Cheers!
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Now you would think with the price of fuel and impending carbon tax that the brains ???? of this company would be looking at the article below. Not new about 2 years old. A lot of airlines around the world have taken this option. Qantas again left behind.
The idiot in charge of engineering, who has done nothing since he got here except slap new paint everywhere even came from ANZ.
Then again that would go against the plan to close this once great airline.
The new blended winglets being fitted to Air New Zealand’s fleet of Boeing 767-300ER aircraft are delivering 19 percent higher fuel savings than forecast, the airline said Tuesday.
The news brings the airline’s expected fuel savings on its fleet of five 767s to more than 7 million liters a year, cutting 18,400 metric tons of carbon emissions, and allowing the planes to fly farther, climb faster and deliver payloads more efficiently.
Four of the airline’s 767s have the winglets, while the fifth is being refitted and is scheduled to be back in service with the winglets in early November. Aviation Partners Boeing developed the 3.4 meter-high winglets.
“The installation of the blended winglets is part of Air New Zealand’s on-going drive to be the world’s most environmentally sustainable airline,” David Morgan, the airline’s says general manager of airline operations, said in a news release.
The idiot in charge of engineering, who has done nothing since he got here except slap new paint everywhere even came from ANZ.
Then again that would go against the plan to close this once great airline.
The new blended winglets being fitted to Air New Zealand’s fleet of Boeing 767-300ER aircraft are delivering 19 percent higher fuel savings than forecast, the airline said Tuesday.
The news brings the airline’s expected fuel savings on its fleet of five 767s to more than 7 million liters a year, cutting 18,400 metric tons of carbon emissions, and allowing the planes to fly farther, climb faster and deliver payloads more efficiently.
Four of the airline’s 767s have the winglets, while the fifth is being refitted and is scheduled to be back in service with the winglets in early November. Aviation Partners Boeing developed the 3.4 meter-high winglets.
“The installation of the blended winglets is part of Air New Zealand’s on-going drive to be the world’s most environmentally sustainable airline,” David Morgan, the airline’s says general manager of airline operations, said in a news release.
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QUOTE of "THE MOMENT".......??..
"We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form into teams.......
We would be reorganised!
I was to learn later in life, that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganising.. and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency and demoralisation ."
Petronius 210 B.C
"We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form into teams.......
We would be reorganised!
I was to learn later in life, that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganising.. and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency and demoralisation ."
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Well Done Mike Carlton!
AUGUST 20, 2011 ARTICLE 20 OF 20
Killjoyces whichever way you turn
MIKE CARLTON
Alan Joyce, the Qantas boss, sent me an email on Monday. It oozed that smarmy PRspeak that tells you that you are being right-royally schmoozed by the marketing department.
"Dear Mr Carlton," he began. "As one of our most valued customers, I want to share with you our commitment to building a stronger Qantas."
Yup. There's Mistake Number One. That very first sentence contains a dangling participle, a clunky grammatical error. Read by anyone even half-literate, Alan, it can only mean that you are one of Qantas's most valued customers, not me. If you don't believe me, try this: As a small, bespectacled Irishman, I want to share with you …
The rest of the email was more corporate drivel: "The best of what air travel can be … a pioneer that introduced flying to a young nation … state-of-the-art … best comfort, service and entertainment in the sky … spirit that will make Australians proud." And so on, blah-de-blah.
Alan, I don't particularly want to be proud of Qantas, any more than I want to be proud of wombats, say, or Lleyton Hewitt.
I just want you to get me from A to B more or less on time, at a reasonable price, better than the other guys do. I want to use my frequent flyer points when it works for me, not you, and I'm fed up with your website constantly crashing when I try to book. A smiling face at check-in would be nice, too, not a grey computer screen.
I want to be flown by properly trained Australian pilots making a fair wage, in safe aircraft serviced by Australian engineers. I'd like the drinks rolled up the aisle by Australian cabin crew, not by indentured Thai labour pulling $5 an hour. Overseas, I want to travel without you flick-passing me to another code-sharing "partner" when I get half way at Hong Kong, Bangkok or Dallas-Fort Worth.
In short, Alan, I want that ol' time Qantas service. When I flew Jakarta-Sydney on QF42 the other day, the crew worked hard. Nice people. But your Business Class lounge at Jakarta Airport was like a back-alley chew'n'spew, Salmonella Central, where we had to plead for a cold beer. On board, the overhead lockers rattled ominously when we took off. My seat was broken and the breakfast "refreshment" before the dreaded 6am arrival was a polystyrene muffin and tepid coffee that could have doubled as brake fluid.
Alan, you can sack the locals and set up re-branded Asian feeder airlines until you're black in the face. Maybe that will pacify the shareholders for a while, maybe not. But either way, you're killing off the flying kangaroo we once knew. I still call Malaysia home?
JOYCES were everywhere all week. Barnaby of that ilk looked as if he might spontaneously combust when he harangued the carbon tax protest in Canberra on Tuesday.
"This is socialism on a scale that we've never seen before in our lives,'' he bellowed, crimson-faced and sweating, eyes swivelling like the Cookie Monster. The greying mums and dads of his audience clutched their Ditch The Bitch placards and quaked in their cardigans as if Lenin himself had appeared. Next stop: the Finland Station!
It being exactly a year since Julia Gillard's no carbon tax promise, the opposition flung the levers to hyperbole. It was "the anniversary of a day of infamy", squeaked the Liberals' climate change gnome, Greg Hunt, presumably channelling Franklin Roosevelt post-Pearl Harbour. The Queensland Liberal senator George Brandis labelled it "the most infamous broken promise in Australian political history".
Up to a point, George. That honour actually goes to a South Australian Liberal and a former army minister, Dr Jim Forbes, who told an RSL conference in 1964 that "our military advisers have indicated in the clearest and most unmistakable terms that conscription is not the most effective way of creating the army we need. An army composed entirely of long-term volunteers is better than one based on a mixture of volunteers and conscripts.''
Just 16 days later the Menzies government introduced guess what. Some of us baby boomers have long memories, Senator.
YESTERDAY should have been party time at the ABC. It was the 50th anniversary of Four Corners, which arrived in the nation's lounge rooms on August 19, 1961.
Fifty years is a big deal in television. Kicking off with a staff of six and a weekly budget of £480, the program has survived the slings and arrows - both within and without the ABC - to become the longest-running show on air. Not counting the news bulletins, that is.
It is difficult to imagine Australia without it.
So a big bash had been planned, with the Four Corners faces of yesteryear turning out for cocktails and the launch of a commemorative exhibition at the Ultimo headquarters. It would have been one of those very tribal ABC affairs, cheerful and gossipy, where almost everyone seems to be married to, living with or divorced from somebody else in the room.
But then came the thunderclap: journalist Paul Lockyer, pilot Gary Ticehurst and cameraman John Bean were killed when their helicopter crashed near Lake Eyre. The ABC's managing director, Mark Scott, pulled the pin on the party.
Maybe that was the right call. Scott was clearly devastated by the tragedy. But knowing Paul Lockyer, I'm pretty damn certain he would have wanted the show to go on, with corks popping and glasses raised.
He was such a nice man. Lively, amusing, fun to be with. In the hard scrabble of television journalism, both ABC and commercial, he was universally liked for his ready charm and consummate professional skill.
As a young man, he had been a stand-out foreign correspondent. In recent years he travelled the bush, reporting the country to the city with understanding and elegance. They'll miss him out there, for sure.
It is a trope of the right-wing commentariat that the ABC is a nest of left-wing subversives who must be purged.
Only the other day, the tedious Professor Judith Sloan was banging on, yet again, about staff wickedness and the need to raze the place.
It is Paul Lockyer - and the hundreds of good men and women like him at the ABC - who make the best answer to that particular libel.
[email protected]
Killjoyces whichever way you turn
MIKE CARLTON
Alan Joyce, the Qantas boss, sent me an email on Monday. It oozed that smarmy PRspeak that tells you that you are being right-royally schmoozed by the marketing department.
"Dear Mr Carlton," he began. "As one of our most valued customers, I want to share with you our commitment to building a stronger Qantas."
Yup. There's Mistake Number One. That very first sentence contains a dangling participle, a clunky grammatical error. Read by anyone even half-literate, Alan, it can only mean that you are one of Qantas's most valued customers, not me. If you don't believe me, try this: As a small, bespectacled Irishman, I want to share with you …
The rest of the email was more corporate drivel: "The best of what air travel can be … a pioneer that introduced flying to a young nation … state-of-the-art … best comfort, service and entertainment in the sky … spirit that will make Australians proud." And so on, blah-de-blah.
Alan, I don't particularly want to be proud of Qantas, any more than I want to be proud of wombats, say, or Lleyton Hewitt.
I just want you to get me from A to B more or less on time, at a reasonable price, better than the other guys do. I want to use my frequent flyer points when it works for me, not you, and I'm fed up with your website constantly crashing when I try to book. A smiling face at check-in would be nice, too, not a grey computer screen.
I want to be flown by properly trained Australian pilots making a fair wage, in safe aircraft serviced by Australian engineers. I'd like the drinks rolled up the aisle by Australian cabin crew, not by indentured Thai labour pulling $5 an hour. Overseas, I want to travel without you flick-passing me to another code-sharing "partner" when I get half way at Hong Kong, Bangkok or Dallas-Fort Worth.
In short, Alan, I want that ol' time Qantas service. When I flew Jakarta-Sydney on QF42 the other day, the crew worked hard. Nice people. But your Business Class lounge at Jakarta Airport was like a back-alley chew'n'spew, Salmonella Central, where we had to plead for a cold beer. On board, the overhead lockers rattled ominously when we took off. My seat was broken and the breakfast "refreshment" before the dreaded 6am arrival was a polystyrene muffin and tepid coffee that could have doubled as brake fluid.
Alan, you can sack the locals and set up re-branded Asian feeder airlines until you're black in the face. Maybe that will pacify the shareholders for a while, maybe not. But either way, you're killing off the flying kangaroo we once knew. I still call Malaysia home?
JOYCES were everywhere all week. Barnaby of that ilk looked as if he might spontaneously combust when he harangued the carbon tax protest in Canberra on Tuesday.
"This is socialism on a scale that we've never seen before in our lives,'' he bellowed, crimson-faced and sweating, eyes swivelling like the Cookie Monster. The greying mums and dads of his audience clutched their Ditch The Bitch placards and quaked in their cardigans as if Lenin himself had appeared. Next stop: the Finland Station!
It being exactly a year since Julia Gillard's no carbon tax promise, the opposition flung the levers to hyperbole. It was "the anniversary of a day of infamy", squeaked the Liberals' climate change gnome, Greg Hunt, presumably channelling Franklin Roosevelt post-Pearl Harbour. The Queensland Liberal senator George Brandis labelled it "the most infamous broken promise in Australian political history".
Up to a point, George. That honour actually goes to a South Australian Liberal and a former army minister, Dr Jim Forbes, who told an RSL conference in 1964 that "our military advisers have indicated in the clearest and most unmistakable terms that conscription is not the most effective way of creating the army we need. An army composed entirely of long-term volunteers is better than one based on a mixture of volunteers and conscripts.''
Just 16 days later the Menzies government introduced guess what. Some of us baby boomers have long memories, Senator.
YESTERDAY should have been party time at the ABC. It was the 50th anniversary of Four Corners, which arrived in the nation's lounge rooms on August 19, 1961.
Fifty years is a big deal in television. Kicking off with a staff of six and a weekly budget of £480, the program has survived the slings and arrows - both within and without the ABC - to become the longest-running show on air. Not counting the news bulletins, that is.
It is difficult to imagine Australia without it.
So a big bash had been planned, with the Four Corners faces of yesteryear turning out for cocktails and the launch of a commemorative exhibition at the Ultimo headquarters. It would have been one of those very tribal ABC affairs, cheerful and gossipy, where almost everyone seems to be married to, living with or divorced from somebody else in the room.
But then came the thunderclap: journalist Paul Lockyer, pilot Gary Ticehurst and cameraman John Bean were killed when their helicopter crashed near Lake Eyre. The ABC's managing director, Mark Scott, pulled the pin on the party.
Maybe that was the right call. Scott was clearly devastated by the tragedy. But knowing Paul Lockyer, I'm pretty damn certain he would have wanted the show to go on, with corks popping and glasses raised.
He was such a nice man. Lively, amusing, fun to be with. In the hard scrabble of television journalism, both ABC and commercial, he was universally liked for his ready charm and consummate professional skill.
As a young man, he had been a stand-out foreign correspondent. In recent years he travelled the bush, reporting the country to the city with understanding and elegance. They'll miss him out there, for sure.
It is a trope of the right-wing commentariat that the ABC is a nest of left-wing subversives who must be purged.
Only the other day, the tedious Professor Judith Sloan was banging on, yet again, about staff wickedness and the need to raze the place.
It is Paul Lockyer - and the hundreds of good men and women like him at the ABC - who make the best answer to that particular libel.
[email protected]
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SMH is reporting that Canberra is starting to get rattled and that DJ is attacking Govt travel account.
Do they sometimes fly with Virgin? If not, is there a tender process?
The rest of the email was more corporate drivel: "The best of what air travel can be … a pioneer that introduced flying to a young nation …
This is what gives me an acute case of diarrhea. They're still banging on with the 'We're the Orstrayian Airline' drivel in their marketing, complete with full page ads featuring cute lil' lifesavers, when a picture of an overworked Thai hostie earning a bag of rice a day would be more in line with the corporate plan for tomorrow's Qantas
. The current Board is a long way removed from the enterprising chaps who set up the Queensland and Northern Territory Aerial Service. Those guys had vision and decency.
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Worrals,
I believe most government accounts are set up so either Virgin or Qantas can be used by the traveller. Currently most travel is going to Qantas, however I wouldn't be surprised to see a change once the full new product is rolled out.
I believe most government accounts are set up so either Virgin or Qantas can be used by the traveller. Currently most travel is going to Qantas, however I wouldn't be surprised to see a change once the full new product is rolled out.
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Come on fella's bombard your MP'S, get all your friends to do it also, sooner or later one of them will bring it up in question time. Make sure SAFETY and AUSTRALIAN JOBS are the main subject, cheap asian labor being the intention of Joyce. We ain't done yet. 
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Forgot to mention that Andrew Wilkie (according to a Liberal MP mate of mine) does not want QF going off shore. Send him a email to. [email protected]
I have it on good authority that QF has requested Airbus to add further range to the A320 to either match or exceed that of the B737-800. I presume this is to enable operations from SE Asia to Australia by Jetstar or the new SE Asian based full service airline.