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CASA have been put under the microscope by this inquiry and have been found wanting. I can not imagine anyone being foolish enough to allow them to go free, but if they do, CASA's failings will be thrown into stark relief when they inevitably manifest themselves into an accident-and they know it.
I would not give up on the inquiry just yet, it is not every day that a group of Senators has potentially hundreds of lives in his or her hands. I think the good Senators are aware of the consequences of getting this one wrong.
"The price of greatness is responsibility" -Winston Churchill
I would not give up on the inquiry just yet, it is not every day that a group of Senators has potentially hundreds of lives in his or her hands. I think the good Senators are aware of the consequences of getting this one wrong.
"The price of greatness is responsibility" -Winston Churchill
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If the CASA board give oversight to the Minister, perhaps we are lax in not attacking them first. If the Director and his crony's are an acceptable state of play within CASA, we should wonder if the Minister is getting the right information from the board to act on, and the senators are perhaps not being inquisitorial enough, when attacking the body of the serpent instead of the head.
I'm not giving the Minister a way out here, simply stating that all his vast ignorance may not be attributal to his genetic and psychological makeup.
And take no comfort from the shadow minister.
"The price expected of responsibility is an adherence to accountability".
I'm not giving the Minister a way out here, simply stating that all his vast ignorance may not be attributal to his genetic and psychological makeup.
And take no comfort from the shadow minister.
"The price expected of responsibility is an adherence to accountability".
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Talking of the CASA Board, other than get free lunch and pretend to report to the minister, what else do they do?
If the CASA board give oversight to the Minister, perhaps we are lax in not attacking them first. If the Director and his crony's are an acceptable state of play within CASA, we should wonder if the Minister is getting the right information from the board to act on, and the senators are perhaps not being inquisitorial enough, when attacking the body of the serpent instead of the head.
I'm not giving the Minister a way out here, simply stating that all his vast ignorance may not be attributal to his genetic and psychological makeup.
And take no comfort from the shadow minister.
I'm not giving the Minister a way out here, simply stating that all his vast ignorance may not be attributal to his genetic and psychological makeup.
And take no comfort from the shadow minister.
But anyway, if the Senators are gunning for a top level political scalp good luck to them. After all, the whole exercise, regardless of the outcome is merely play money to them anyway, after all the taxpayer is funding all of this. Just add the bill to the rest of the worthless debt they are loading us up with for eternity ! Oh yes I forgot, seeing that we are becoming further indebted and our quality of life is being eroded by the day due to our government lets just throw another half a billion dollars of money we don't have to aid Indonesia while we cant even afford our own fu#king basic school ,hospital and road system.
It should take less than 23 years to complete and promulgate everything seeing as they have done this much work to date.
Promulgate always reminds me of the airforce, was one of their favourite words I reckon, everything had to be promulgated....I like it, Frank, you can keep using it, I'll give you top cover, Gobbledock....20 press-ups.
Gobbles, it is axiomatic in the public service and ministerial staff that what a Minister does not know is actually more important than what he does know.
If he doesn't now about it, he can't be held responsible for it, and if he should be, but isn't, then all that is required is for a suitable public servant to be selected to confess to knowing about it but failing to tell the Minister.
Said Public servant is then reprimanded, dismissed, and immediately goes to work as a Ministerial appointee on the Board of a Qango.
Very simply really...
This is why a smart Minister always qualifies every statement he ever makes with the phrases "I'm advised that..." everything you ever saw on "Yes Minister" was true. It would take a very "courageous" Minister to do anything at all without the fig-leaf of "advice".
If he doesn't now about it, he can't be held responsible for it, and if he should be, but isn't, then all that is required is for a suitable public servant to be selected to confess to knowing about it but failing to tell the Minister.
Said Public servant is then reprimanded, dismissed, and immediately goes to work as a Ministerial appointee on the Board of a Qango.
Very simply really...
This is why a smart Minister always qualifies every statement he ever makes with the phrases "I'm advised that..." everything you ever saw on "Yes Minister" was true. It would take a very "courageous" Minister to do anything at all without the fig-leaf of "advice".
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Gobbledock....20 press-ups.
Gobbles, it is axiomatic in the public service and ministerial staff that what a Minister does not know is actually more important than what he does know.
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I remember a poster with the handle" AXIOM. Great bloke. Too late to protest, he got banned but was vindicated by historical fact. Wonder where he is now?
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Tabled everything except the transport report thus far
Might not make it in time... Could be pushed to tomorrow
Business of the senate underway at item 1.
Transport is number 8 and with no report tabled think it will be pushed even with the finishing time of 20:00
Might not make it in time... Could be pushed to tomorrow
Business of the senate underway at item 1.
Transport is number 8 and with no report tabled think it will be pushed even with the finishing time of 20:00
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http://www.aph.gov.au/Senate/committ...ort/report.pdf
Recommendation 1
2.278 The committee is of the view that an ATPL should also be required for first officers in high capacity regular public transport (RPT) jet aircraft such as Boeing 737, A320 and other aircraft of similar or greater capacity, and that consideration be given to implementing this as a standard.
Recommendation 1
2.278 The committee is of the view that an ATPL should also be required for first officers in high capacity regular public transport (RPT) jet aircraft such as Boeing 737, A320 and other aircraft of similar or greater capacity, and that consideration be given to implementing this as a standard.
Only read the recommendations so far, but if all of them can be implemented correctly and quickly (yeah right) then this inquiry has done a tremendous amount of good!
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So where does recommendation 1 leave the Jetstar cadets? Besides out of pocket. I'm sure there will be reattacks to government on that recommendation alone.
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2.278 The committee is of the view that an ATPL should also be required for first officers in high capacity regular public transport (RPT) jet aircraft such as Boeing 737, A320 and other aircraft of similar or greater capacity, and that consideration be given to implementing this as a standard.
How do you like those apples .
Share prices about to drop through 1.8, ATPL a requirement soon enough and PIA has not even been taken out of its wrapping, do they seriously think they stand a chance at bullying reasonable expectations through media mis-information.
How do you like those apples .
Share prices about to drop through 1.8, ATPL a requirement soon enough and PIA has not even been taken out of its wrapping, do they seriously think they stand a chance at bullying reasonable expectations through media mis-information.
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The committee is of the view...does that mean it is only a recommendation and employers can either choose to follow suit or dismiss it or does this now become mandated?
Until then, it's binding on no-one however AFAP/AIPA should be paying for advertising billboards at the entrance to Moorabbin, Bankstown, Jandakot etc and displaying this recommendation for anyone driving in to sign up for a cadetship to see.
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Up to Regulator to formalise but it will be a brave CASA/ATSB not to take the findings seriously.
Certainly has major implications for Joyce's migration of QF to offshore and puts the heat onto AOC holders (nice dump handball to Strambi by Joyce during ash cloud mention at the press club).
CC came out OK re FRMS - report could have gone further but it covered off the key offences.
AT
Can we expect Bruce and his little mate with an accent to pop up today.....
Certainly has major implications for Joyce's migration of QF to offshore and puts the heat onto AOC holders (nice dump handball to Strambi by Joyce during ash cloud mention at the press club).
CC came out OK re FRMS - report could have gone further but it covered off the key offences.
AT
Can we expect Bruce and his little mate with an accent to pop up today.....