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Old 28th Mar 2011, 09:18
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Would love to be there, but it won't fit in, does anyone know who will be appearing?

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Does anyone know when the transcript is likely to be out for the March 18th hearing?
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Old 28th Mar 2011, 09:24
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Wirth a watch!!

And

Soon

;-)

Ps nothing definate until the schedule is published!!
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Old 28th Mar 2011, 09:29
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32Megs..sounds just like the stuff written in the year we cant discuss....we can all see where GT stands on the issues....
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Old 28th Mar 2011, 10:14
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GT, Steve Creedy..what can I say.

Oh! I know thank god for Sandilands!
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Old 28th Mar 2011, 10:58
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The last 2 lines from tonights 4 corners programme

MATT HICKS: I'm not looking for an explanation as to what happened to us. But for the future of this industry you need an openness or people will just get killed. I mean that's as simple as that and if they don't want to do it well you're in the wrong business.
KERRY O'BRIEN: A business where safety is everything.
I think that just about sums the problem up.

Hey Alan, are you and Bruce gonna lead by example this Thursday cause I know a few Senators who would like you to be open with them!!

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Old 28th Mar 2011, 11:05
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KOB:
$afety ....spelt with an $

shame the hard questions were not asked ..........(yet)
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Old 28th Mar 2011, 11:26
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Cadet Issue

Quote from 4 Corners

MARK JOHNSON: Matt Hicks is a, you know, a very competent operator with 15 or so years in Qantas having flown a 767, 747, A330 and A380 and he was working I would say close to his limit. And I would not have liked to have seen someone with very low hours trying to do that job on that day.
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Old 28th Mar 2011, 11:32
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Matt Hicks, highly experienced, very competent and confident in his own ability. His physiological reaction was:

MATT HICKS: I actually had a swig of water 'cause I was getting bit dry in the throat. Thought about my wife and kids for a while; thought I better do a decent job here otherwise I'm not coming home.
How would a low experienced cadet have reacted in the knowledge you cannot just re-boot the sim if you stuff it up??
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Old 29th Mar 2011, 05:15
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The Senate inquiry will achieve nothing. You will need Three or or more smoking holes in the ground before the Government acts.

They will then throw the baby out with the bathwater. CASA will end up stronger and with a reinforced mandate. You cannot win.
Folks,

I fear Sunfish is on the money.

As far as John Q. Public, the general media, courts, tribunals and politicians are concerned "CASA are the Government air safety experts", even though we in the industry know otherwise.

Only one major loss would do it.

While you get all worked up about minimum experience, there is no shortage of minimum experience in CASA, unless you use the Pan Am definition of "experience".

Tootle pip!!

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Old 29th Mar 2011, 09:50
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LS and sunfish are overlooking a very important difference in this enquiry compared to other aviation enquiries. This one is about mainline jet operations on which the pollies are regular travellers. They are very concerned about what they are finding so will not simply write a report and move on. They are not being hoodwinked by CASA or the industry. They want answers and they know that the likes of AJ and BB are giving them nothing but spin and bulldust. There are also a lot more frontline submissions that are making them sit up and take notice.
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Old 29th Mar 2011, 10:08
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oppressed citizens that just pay dollar after dollar and see nothing for their money

Forgive them lookleft.

They've been subject to the modern Australia and its combination of pathetically inept, corrupt and amateur system that does nothing but steal from its citizens every minute of every day.

I do have one hope:

Senator Xenophon is a bit different. It's nearly like he's not from around here. Very sharp. He's got multiple enquiries on but have a look at the content of his questions. He's clearly extremely bright and not one to be swayed by the "chairmans lounge". There is no way he could be Prime Minister, he makes too much sense and we have too many morons amongst us.

I'm all for the Ben Sandilands style commentary or the old 60 minutes/4 Corners/Investigators. I'm all for a spade being called a spade and the do gooders to be done away with. There just ain't enough of it in this place
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Old 29th Mar 2011, 11:42
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Thumbs up

Just to back up Hat's comments. I had Sen X on board one day SYD-ADL. I was at the front door as the pax were getting off and saw this familiar looking bloke get off. He gave me a nod and I nodded back and only then realised it was him. I chased after him and we had a 5-10 minute chat at the top of the aerobridge.

During the discussion I elicited from him that he normally travels economy as he doesn't feel that the SYD-ADL sector in J class delivers value for money for the taxpayer. I was impressed at that given I know how much many of the pollies (and other senior people in various government departments) like their perks.

I've been even more impressed with him in terms of how he's performed in this inquiry.
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Old 29th Mar 2011, 23:45
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Who is selling the Popcorn?
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Old 29th Mar 2011, 23:52
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Over-ripe tomatoes might be more appropriate
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It would be a crackup if someone threw a shoe at them
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Old 30th Mar 2011, 01:21
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Handbrake,

It's tomorrow not Friday.

Senate Inquiry forces Jetstar to make changes – Plane Talking
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Old 30th Mar 2011, 01:29
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2 hours for Alan and Bruce in the chair is a long one!!

Lets get to the facts Bruce!!!
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Old 30th Mar 2011, 01:35
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Would hope all pilots supporting Ben Sandilands by subscribing to Crikey - worth every penny.
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Old 30th Mar 2011, 02:21
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I notice on the Hearing Program, one Ms Monique Neetson'Lemkes
on at 12.15pm.
Is she the FAAA Jetstar "Team" (hate that term) co-ordinator?
If so, I wonder what will be bought up?
Any mention of the Thai Flight attendants (Crew?Team?whatever!)
Their pay, their ability to legally work in Australia, their guest worker status, their lengths of duty,their english language abilities, etc,etc.
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Old 30th Mar 2011, 02:25
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TN

Any truth to the rumour that a certain HR manager at Jetstar has been fired over the botched cadet scheme??
Yes I believe so! TN is gone.
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