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A copy of a post I made on another thread but relevant to the Inquiry so posted here for ease of reference to those who are interested.
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WRT the Sharp cadetship the evidence given by the Sobey's was nothing but a gripe about not qualifying for being able to offer FEE-HELP. Sharp disclosed their turnover at apprx. $16m, I wonder how much of that is generated by Gen Y's signing up for their cadetship?
They want the ability to offer FEE-HELP assistance to provide a route for them to sell dreams to young kids and get access turnover funded by the public coffers.
My Grandad once told me 'Where there is money, there is someone trying to get their hands on it!!'. This is very true. The art of becoming rich is identifying a source of money and then devising a method by which to channel it in your direction.
Mr Sobey went on to tell the Senate Inquiry that the cost of their cadetship cost $100,000 and Mrs Sobey testified that there was a job at the end of it.
My sources tell me that there is a job at the end of it, so no lies there but what was misleading is that Mrs Sobey did not disclose that the job offerred at the end of the cadetship was one of ground ops / baggage handler with the carrot of getting a shot in the RHS of a Metro.
I think the Senator assumed that the job at the end was a job that reflected the $100,000 of training that the individuals had just paid for!!!
Just another example of where evidence of individuals has been tainted to reflect the commercial interests of the organisations they represent.
As I have said, cadet Programs are marketing gimmicks to keep the cash flow, turnover and profits up. I hope the Senators see through this smoke and mirror act and realise the Pilot Training and what goes on is one of Australian Aviation's dirty little secrets. Especially when it is paid up front, something that those who have been stung will know too well. You just get buggered about.
WRT the Sharp cadetship the evidence given by the Sobey's was nothing but a gripe about not qualifying for being able to offer FEE-HELP. Sharp disclosed their turnover at apprx. $16m, I wonder how much of that is generated by Gen Y's signing up for their cadetship?
They want the ability to offer FEE-HELP assistance to provide a route for them to sell dreams to young kids and get access turnover funded by the public coffers.
My Grandad once told me 'Where there is money, there is someone trying to get their hands on it!!'. This is very true. The art of becoming rich is identifying a source of money and then devising a method by which to channel it in your direction.
Mr Sobey went on to tell the Senate Inquiry that the cost of their cadetship cost $100,000 and Mrs Sobey testified that there was a job at the end of it.
My sources tell me that there is a job at the end of it, so no lies there but what was misleading is that Mrs Sobey did not disclose that the job offerred at the end of the cadetship was one of ground ops / baggage handler with the carrot of getting a shot in the RHS of a Metro.
I think the Senator assumed that the job at the end was a job that reflected the $100,000 of training that the individuals had just paid for!!!
Just another example of where evidence of individuals has been tainted to reflect the commercial interests of the organisations they represent.
As I have said, cadet Programs are marketing gimmicks to keep the cash flow, turnover and profits up. I hope the Senators see through this smoke and mirror act and realise the Pilot Training and what goes on is one of Australian Aviation's dirty little secrets. Especially when it is paid up front, something that those who have been stung will know too well. You just get buggered about.
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Thanks Kelpie
By the way, I think B Sandilands might have a job for you after this is all done & dusted.
Ps Keep up the sensational work
By the way, I think B Sandilands might have a job for you after this is all done & dusted.
Ps Keep up the sensational work
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After the Senate inquiry what happens? Are recommendations made to the lower house for a change of legislation. This has to go then the Senate. It will be a fairly long process maybe 2 years considering the current amount of legislation that needs consideration.
I suppose should it get to the first stage- tableing of a bill- the mongrels will know the game is up and quietly stop the cadet scheme. That is of course if we don't have a change of government before that happens.
Food for thought.
I suppose should it get to the first stage- tableing of a bill- the mongrels will know the game is up and quietly stop the cadet scheme. That is of course if we don't have a change of government before that happens.
Food for thought.
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After the Senate inquiry what happens? Are recommendations made to the lower house for a change of legislation. This has to go then the Senate. It will be a fairly long process maybe 2 years considering the current amount of legislation that needs consideration.
I suppose should it get to the first stage- tableing of a bill- the mongrels will know the game is up and quietly stop the cadet scheme. That is of course if we don't have a change of government before that happens.
Food for thought.
I suppose should it get to the first stage- tableing of a bill- the mongrels will know the game is up and quietly stop the cadet scheme. That is of course if we don't have a change of government before that happens.
Food for thought.
If the parlimentary process boggs down and any action that should result from the inquiry is delayed, and the unthinkable happens in the meantime, at least we, the interested public can say that none of you weren't warned. But a fat lot of good it'll do then!
Light a fire under it Pollies. For when the sh!t hits the fan, you will be the ones in the firing line for not acting quickly enough, along with the criminals who are perpetuating these rorts.
Light a fire under it Pollies. For when the sh!t hits the fan, you will be the ones in the firing line for not acting quickly enough, along with the criminals who are perpetuating these rorts.
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WAG's are not happy, Jan!
LISTEN UP. John Laws on radio today Tuesday 15th March after the 10 am news. He is VERY interested to hear about the goings on at QF HQ and QF pilots being squeezed out of the flight deck- so here's your chance!
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John Laws on radio Monday 15th March
LISTEN UP. John Laws on radio today Tuesday 15th March after the 10 am news. He is VERY interested to hear about the goings on at QF HQ and QF pilots being squeezed out of the flight deck- so here's your chance!
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Media Links to J Laws.
2SM - Listen Live - Sydney's Talk, News and Entertainment Station with John Laws
2SM - Listen Live - Sydney's Talk, News and Entertainment Station with John Laws
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Bugger!!
I am in meetings this morning, I would have loved to have a chat with John on the subject.
Hopefully I can hear the broadcast later.
Is he only interested in QF or is Jetstar on his radar too?
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I am in meetings this morning, I would have loved to have a chat with John on the subject.
Hopefully I can hear the broadcast later.
Is he only interested in QF or is Jetstar on his radar too?
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Nightmare!!!
I just cannot get out of my meetings, otherwise I would be on the blower, hopefully the QF stuff will prompt him to do another talkback on Jetstar.
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I just cannot get out of my meetings, otherwise I would be on the blower, hopefully the QF stuff will prompt him to do another talkback on Jetstar.
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Just listened to "Kate" the wife of a Qantas Captain talking to Lawsie'.
Points she made...
Points she made...
- You may board a QF flight, but may not have Qantas pilots up front
- It is illegal for 2-300 hour pilots to fly RPT in the US, Lawsie was surprised by that!
- Joyce was unable to satifactorily answer some Senate enquiry questions, hense his and Buchanan's recall on Friday.
- People should tune in to the enquiry.
- Joyce will probably get rid of Wirth (Krusty: it seemed to me as a scapegoat, but also due to her incompetance and willingness to bend the truth)
- the Qantas mangements statement of a demand for a 26% payrise by Qantas pilots is just crazy. More lies and spin from QF HR. It's as we all know 2.5%! Kate's a teacher and she has currently been offered 9%.