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Old 28th Jul 2014, 08:29
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Hey Leftie...before we get started, correct the thread drift and put your Guy Fawkes comment on the Wuss thread.
You may be assured that every word will be recorded by at least one of the IOS and I hear a whisper that PAIN will naturally be represented.
Its pretty certain that every word will be analyzed against any publicly available text in order to ensure that the author is properly acknowledged when quoted.
and lefty you'll never ever know, if you don't man up and go, watch this space,
luv and kisses TB.
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Old 28th Jul 2014, 08:32
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Ziggy,

I suggest you turn up wearing and un-inflated life jacket. A big statement with having to say a thing! Keep the faith!
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Old 28th Jul 2014, 09:20
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Thanks for the Balls, let us roll on in

Half Inflated life-vest a torch and some FOI extracts etc.

I have some ideas which I will think about over the next couple of days. Great shirt which gets to the point that I will wear, proudly. (I'll selfie and post)

Unity would be great. Politicians advocate change but it is unified people strength that create the change. History shows this.
The momentum is gaining velocity yet still no lift. Time to fly in a different way guys.

I'll sit front row with intense eye contact and take notes. Might even make a paper plane, fly it until it falls then say "oops, was just following regs". "Never mind, if any flaws point towards our regs or investigators, fixable, um, lie"
Pick up plane, put it in my life-vest for safety, then smile.

Jokes aside. I'm going.
I'll drag my honourable balls and use my nut to speak with some crackers.
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Old 28th Jul 2014, 09:51
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EG

Ziggy. I had a graphic artist design a logo for us, the Ills' of Society, Society. Let me know if you want the image in a JPEG so it can be printed on a T Shirt. I'm getting several made! If anyone wants one, PM me.
Proud to be an IOS!
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Old 28th Jul 2014, 11:47
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You are a gutsy man Jinglie. With an image like that on a t-shirt you will certainly attract attention and I'm not thinking of any amused onlookers. Quite possibly someone, somewhere working for a government security agency wants to know a bit more about what is behind the thinking of someone wearing a t-shirt with images of a skull and passenger aeroplanes on it. Best of luck!
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Old 28th Jul 2014, 12:04
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Intentionally or otherwise, it is a truly bizarre and disturbing image that is almost entirely unhelpful, if not positively damaging, to the IOS cause.
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Old 28th Jul 2014, 12:17
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Hey, each to there own. Cool art work, but I couldn't wear it and not be immediately labelled. (As they would not understand).

Whilst there, I'd like to bring attention to facts and justice. Which I believe I have the right to do. So I will.
Presence and connecting with others to speak of the truth regarding the shortcomings of the distorted system/s. Ask logical questions.

Going for the right reasons. To listen, then question.

Anyone else going?

Just hang outside the venue, anonymously. Gather. Support. Grow. Change.

The opportunity is ripe. Let it go?

Negative.
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Old 28th Jul 2014, 12:33
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More power to your arm.

However, I'd keep a distance from anyone wearing a shirt with that image on it, if you want to avoid being labelled a loonie.
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Old 28th Jul 2014, 12:37
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Frau Ziggy, good to have you back, even if only for a short spell. I am sure Flyingfiend and friends will be monitoring your posts enthusiastically, so don't fear them, feel free to embrace your 'limited' freedom of speech, just keep your wording 'safe'
Herr Jinglie, love that art work son Of course 'big bother' won't appreciate it, they see anybody that speaks out or doesn't eat cucumber sandwiches or doesn't live in Can'tberra as a threat. Screw them, I'm gonna get that tattooed on my ass cheek and moon the Skull as he leaves Fort Fumble for the last time!!

Now there is a moderate rumour circling Can'tberra that several IOS have purchased front row tickets to Wodgers speech Wednesday night, and they intend to lob eggs and bags of fresh faeces at him the instant he mentions the word 'robust' for the first time of many....please behave yourselves boys and girls, there may be kiddies in the audience, ok?

'Safe speeches for all'

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Old 28th Jul 2014, 12:41
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splat.

excuse me. I'd like to ask an IFR question first posed by Richard Collins in his book "Flying IFR". How do you unscramble an egg?
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Old 28th Jul 2014, 12:55
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Onya . Ziggychick

All power to you.

A couple of T shirt suggestions

Safe skies for None

CAsA = Corrupt Authority, Safety an Afterthought.

Too far away to be there, as a distant IOS member, in spirit tho

Do post after the "event"

Best wishes
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Old 28th Jul 2014, 12:56
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No one other than Ziggy has actually said they are going. Lots of the usual bluster (just post the receipt from the tattoo parlour 004) but who is going to post on this thread that they will be in attendance at the RAeS on Thursday?
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Old 28th Jul 2014, 13:00
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Yawn

Hate to tell you this Lookleft but not a lot of IOS around here are really interested in reading your claptrap, nor answering your silly question. There's a good boy, toddle off will you.
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Old 28th Jul 2014, 13:07
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Sorry, didn't realise that it was an invitation only thread! I'm just laughing at all the regular posters and all your bold statements about you're going to do this and just wait until you get the opportunity then there will be hell to pay. The perfect opportunity and none of you are making a commitment and saying that you will be there. The emperor has indeed been found to have no clothes.
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Old 28th Jul 2014, 13:27
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Lookie,
What's wrong with a cigar smoking skull? It happens regularly at Fort Fumbles! Yes, I have big balls and am not concerned in the slightest about overstepping the mark. I think the Skull, A380 geriatric, and beaker may have more to worry about! I have a long, proud involvement in aviation safety and know my shite.
You are definitely not a respected member of the IOS'S!
And what pax in the logo???
So do you think Chambers has a clue? I'll be there. You?

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Old 28th Jul 2014, 13:40
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As I said Jinglie best of luck with it. I notice that you already have a customer who wants it permanently etched on what I assume is his talking orifice.
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Old 28th Jul 2014, 14:09
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"Look after yourself"

Why don't you spend your time on real issues rather than picking like a gutless prick on people who actuality give a shite? No doubt you'll be there backing the expert bag chucker!
004 can do what he wants. Good on him for having the spirit.
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Old 28th Jul 2014, 14:31
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When a DAS (in this case McComic) has the audacity to label ppurnes and Senate witnesses (Quinn and Aherne) as Ills' of Society for having the right of public speech, something is wrong. Bravo to those guys for sticking their necks out. The IOSS will live on.
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Old 28th Jul 2014, 14:34
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Truth be known...

Reasoning. What's yours? Going to action? Plausible arguments?

Here's mine.

For those that read this and belong to the scrum that I refer to, lower your head in shame as you read. And FYI, I can not be discredited, try as they might.

My stomach churns everyday. The absence of Justice, Fairness and Learning is the vigorous stir that gives me the strength to continue contributing to this matter.
Near five years. Five operations, psych admissions, meds, PTSD and the list goes on. Most profound is the loss of time with my children as they were 12,14 and 16 at the time of the ditching. I have been a single mother for 12 years. Worked three jobs, studied to achieve my dream job and I was physically abled, mentally stable and was happy.
I now wake each day, greeted with endless pain. Excruciating if I do too much. From an International Intensive Care Aeromedical Nurse, Medical Educator and RTO Project Manager, to a limited radius of around 30km now. Super, I know.
Swiftly stolen. As time has passed, I have accepted the disability, manage the pain, know I will never have the physical freedom nor forget in my mind Nov 18. Daily triggers. Breath. Re-Focus. The incident itself has been difficult enough to live with. Add the soap opera. Not pleasant to live through this.
I can not watch my television or listen to the radio at the moment as it provokes flashbacks, insomnia and nightmares. So be it. I have to ride this wave the best I can. Which ever way it leads me.
Emergence of the need to walk my talk is validated I believe.

Did the operator fail? Did the regulator fail? Did the Investigators fail? Did my Government fail me? A few boxes ticked there perhaps?
We have been treated unfairly, as too with others that have voiced.

I was given a medallion from the "Survivors Network of Aeromedical Crashes" from the US. Books, a visit from another survivor from Canada and support.
Nada from my Gov. Just drawn out, unnecessary head butting. Insulting to say the least. Especially when the truth is known.

Good enough reason now to ask such questions as the truth is bubbling to the surface.

My will is good. I ask the same of others with the pure intent of Safety to understand my reason.

I owe thanks to many people for their insight and understanding that has been relayed to me.

"I fell apart, but got back up again"..."to battle is the only way we feel" Jared Leto.

Sums up this time/chapter of my life.
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Old 28th Jul 2014, 15:21
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IOSS

So what do you suggest Lookie? Some whale hugging or perhaps a picture of a puppet of Forest Gump (Truss lookalike)? Life is like a box of chocolates.....!
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