Qf LAME EBA Negotiations Begin

[ampclamp]

They'll do it anyway.They wont like the bad press but if the bottom line is $$ "saved"....Well... you know what I mean, dont stand between a dollar detecting manager and a fat bonus or you shall be trampled in the onslaught.
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So , fed sec how serious is the threat?

[NWT]

No man transits; they have been here in Europe for a long time. As most engineering unions are weak, compared to pilots unions such as BALPA, then these wonderfull ways just get introduced, public wont care, its cheaper!

[BrissySparkyCoit]

public wont care, its cheaper!

Asuming that they pass on any savings made to the public, that is! I'd bet that any savings made gets split up and passed on to senior managers then scraps to middle managers by way of bonuses!

The race to the bottom continues.

[Gas Bags]

No man transits have been in place for some time in Australia with both J* and VB. If anybody thinks that backlash from the travelling public will affect the big Q's thinking on implementation on their part of the tarmac, they really are living in the past.

Dont get me wrong, I dont agree with it but that is the way of the world.

GB

[Skynews]

There is one major difference between the likes of Tiger, Jetstar and Virgin having " no man turn arounds" and QF.

QF don't have the same "outs" on their tickets. If Tiger etc cancel a flight, it's simply bad luck for the customer, if QF cancel a flightbthey commit to placing you n another flight, providing accomm, meals and transport. It doesn't take many cancelations due mechanical issues at a destination that doesn't have the ability to move the passengers on to start costing $$$$$$

With staff engagement at record levels, I wouldn't find it difficult to find a problem hatparks a machine for a good few hours UNTIL I get some on the spot engineering assistance. Would others?

[unionist1974]

Skynews , so what is it you are up too , ? creating problems that don't exist . I thought above all you had the safety of the public as your priority , mmmmmmmmm , maybe not , eh just your own benefits .

[the rim]

no lame transit

yep its been in the ppm since '03 or there abouts,I agree with the Fed Sec its only just around the bend,as for redundo I think its a long way off,if ever....the QF mangement are talking up re-engagement but a lot of us are not taking it in as we have seen it in the past

[sniggiH]

No LAME Transits

"PLEASE" Fed Sec you have to come up with a way to stop Q implenting no man transits.

I know i haven't been a union member since june 2008 but i need you to sort this out.

It is really going to effect my empire in CNS. We are allready overstaffed with workers, not to mention supervision (dmm;s,snr lame's) which now stands at a ratio of 2:1

My subordinate dmm notseW and I just forced another one of our engineers to transfer south, it took 3yrs of concentrated harassment to make him leave. But this has only eased the situation slightly.

The reputation of the way notseW and I treat certain workers up here means i wont be able to transfer anywhere.

PLEASE,PLEASE S.P HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!

[Bolty McBolt]

No man transits have been in place for some time in Australia with both J* and VB.

No man transits. Who would have seen this coming.

We opened the door to this when we sat down and compared QF wages Vs Virgin Jet*

I don't wish to sound smart in hindsight but a dollar detective is always going to want to compare apples with apples = same work practices
2 cents

[HARDNUT]

SniggiH

Geoff i dare say that some of the SNR LAMEs that support your program in Cairns would be in the same situation as you.

They should pray (as Mark would) that Cairns gets some extra work soon.

[WOLVERINES]

Cairns

Hardnut i agree, I travel around to the major Qf domestic ports and what has been going on in Cairns is common knowledge everywhere.

These people wouldn't survive at other ports when everyone realised they were involved in what has been happening up there!

[magic8]

I think most people aware of all the wrong things happening in CNS.Hope things improve for you guys that are left up in FNQ.Maybe somebody a bit further south may get wise one day and act accordingly.

[another superlame]

Wolverine, people have short memories, 2 years ago Syd base maint took on some casual LAMEs, some of these were scab labour during the PIA. And noone said or did anything towards them.

Reason being that the moron managers who employed them said any discriminatory behaviour toward them would see the full employer lose their job not the scab.

[the rim]

get back to the thread

lets get back on track and stop giving the two ar$e*oles in cns any air time,yes the other airlines do them and QF wants to be the same remember when the union took them on years ago it hit the media big time but as we know the others are still doing it....Steve where are we up to with it in QF

[division1]

Yes Rim, back on track with the EA negotiations.
unless something, anything, is put on the table soon,
i reacon a pia ballot should be prepared.
Can't they even agree to something as simple as the
annualised salary for a start.
It is about time something came of these negotiations.

[LAME2]

It is about time something came of these negotiations

Where has all your patience gone guys? Traditionally an outcome is reached in the 3rd quarter of the year. Why must it be agreed now?

Let the negotiating committee do their job without these crap expectations pressuring them.

Bottom line, we want a good and fair deal. It may not have all the expectations for everyone but that is life, so suck it up.

Support the team in action and words (and money for the Sunstate fund).

[ALAEA Fed Sec]

The action will be sooner rather than later.

[Ngineer]

The action will be sooner rather than later.

We're ready. Game on.

[unionist1974]

What timing !

[BrissySparkyCoit]

What timing !

Care to elaborate?