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Looks like its that Sue, geez whatever JB thinks is good at QF he is taking
Obviously Sue has the correct 'must haves'. Did JB make her dance around and sing songs, build a deck of cards and make her 'prove her ability to show fun and flair' before hiring her ?
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Well at the very least I am sure it must be getting the attention of the Q board.
Very Very smart move by Virgin. This guy knows exactly every intimate detail about Q. Their Cost base in every part of the operation. Add to that long time senior managers are willing to leave a legacy carrier like Q with all its perks really tells you they must have a lot of faith/regard in the man and his vision for VB.
Very Very smart move by Virgin. This guy knows exactly every intimate detail about Q. Their Cost base in every part of the operation. Add to that long time senior managers are willing to leave a legacy carrier like Q with all its perks really tells you they must have a lot of faith/regard in the man and his vision for VB.
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Biton, there are currently no EBA's being negociated at VB at present Ground signed off on theirs two months ago and Engineering signed theirs about a month ago, pilots would be next but that wont be until next year.
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Boeing gets 44 new orders for 737
From Seattle Times...
Boeing booked new sales of 44 single-aisle 737s on its order Web site Thursday. That boosts Boeing's net sales tally for the year to 177 jets ahead of the Farnborough Air Show later this month.
Australian low-cost carrier Virgin Blue ordered one of the Renton-built jets, but the other 43 went to unidentified customers. Boeing may reveal some of the airlines behind the orders at Farnborough.
Thursday's orders at list prices are worth a total of more than $3 billion. Assuming standard discounts based on data from aircraft valuation firm Avitas, the actual value is closer to about $2 billion.
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Was this an option converted into a firm order? Seems strange any airline would order just one, unless it was a conversion.
Boeing booked new sales of 44 single-aisle 737s on its order Web site Thursday. That boosts Boeing's net sales tally for the year to 177 jets ahead of the Farnborough Air Show later this month.
Australian low-cost carrier Virgin Blue ordered one of the Renton-built jets, but the other 43 went to unidentified customers. Boeing may reveal some of the airlines behind the orders at Farnborough.
Thursday's orders at list prices are worth a total of more than $3 billion. Assuming standard discounts based on data from aircraft valuation firm Avitas, the actual value is closer to about $2 billion.
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Was this an option converted into a firm order? Seems strange any airline would order just one, unless it was a conversion.
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Will PB drivers keep their jobs?
Lets see...
VB doesn't own PB
VB doesn't pay PB pilots
PB doesn't fly VB owned aircraft
PB doesn't fly routes that generate revenue for VB
And finally should there be a change in VB/PB structure VB have around 120 Pilots (and necessary crew) standing by to just pop right in there to kick off.
I reckon its all toast looking at that
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VB doesn't own PB
VB doesn't pay PB pilots
PB doesn't fly VB owned aircraft
PB doesn't fly routes that generate revenue for VB
Yes, VB does own PB. PB is a wholly owned subsidiary of VB. Check any website, anywhere...
Indirectly, yes, VB does pay PB pilots (see above)
All of PB's aircraft ARE owned by VB (see the ownership sign in their flightdecks, or consult any half decent aircraft fleet-list website)
PB's Australia to any Pacific Island routes are making huge money and subsidising VB substantially.
VB doesn't pay PB pilots
PB doesn't fly VB owned aircraft
PB doesn't fly routes that generate revenue for VB
Yes, VB does own PB. PB is a wholly owned subsidiary of VB. Check any website, anywhere...
Indirectly, yes, VB does pay PB pilots (see above)
All of PB's aircraft ARE owned by VB (see the ownership sign in their flightdecks, or consult any half decent aircraft fleet-list website)
PB's Australia to any Pacific Island routes are making huge money and subsidising VB substantially.
Not much chop?
If this Borghetti guy is as good as everyone thinks he is, why was he overlooked for the top job at Qantas?
Seems to me he's leading VB into no mans land, i.e a bit of low cost, a bit of full service airline.
Qantas has already smashed them in the low cost department by introducing Jetstar, so Virgin decide to take Qantas on at their bread and butter.
The smart money is on Qantas at this game, and once VB lose out, where does that leave them? Not really low cost and definitely not full service, therefore no longer in business.....
Discuss
Seems to me he's leading VB into no mans land, i.e a bit of low cost, a bit of full service airline.
Qantas has already smashed them in the low cost department by introducing Jetstar, so Virgin decide to take Qantas on at their bread and butter.
The smart money is on Qantas at this game, and once VB lose out, where does that leave them? Not really low cost and definitely not full service, therefore no longer in business.....
Discuss
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but for how long will DJ have polynesianblue...the agreement is up for renewal later this year the route for PB and VB is gold...and with whats been happening with virgin blue the samoa govt's gotta be nervous
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But Why
So why would Branson put the brakes on another fabulous Virgin project ? After all, he formed the airline for the sole purpose of freeing the captive Australian citizen from the evil clutches and duopoly of Qantas and Ansett,not to make money. It makes sense for him to urgently agree to allow the requested changes as it is for the benefit of the Australian community, not for his bank account. C`mon Richard, where has the love gone ? Or has his stance changed for some reason ?
Oh dear, I fear the 'special people' based at the whacky Village will be sad to hear of the delay, they will be downcast and 'low on flair'. First Brett leaves, now Dick is dicking them around, what is happenning to DJ ? What an unexpected betrayal, and at a time when after 10 years Management (to use the term lightly) still arent off the teet !
Maybe it is time for some more roadshows, hire some more Bunnings and Macca`s staff,have some more airport BBQ`s and even hand out some more beach chairs and picnic settings to reignite that Virgin flair ?
Oh dear, I fear the 'special people' based at the whacky Village will be sad to hear of the delay, they will be downcast and 'low on flair'. First Brett leaves, now Dick is dicking them around, what is happenning to DJ ? What an unexpected betrayal, and at a time when after 10 years Management (to use the term lightly) still arent off the teet !
Maybe it is time for some more roadshows, hire some more Bunnings and Macca`s staff,have some more airport BBQ`s and even hand out some more beach chairs and picnic settings to reignite that Virgin flair ?
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Originally Posted by Oleo guy
he formed the airline for the sole purpose of freeing the captive Australian citizen from the evil clutches and duopoly of Qantas and Ansett
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Current debt/equity ratio of 308%, JB would have to ask his roman gods for a miracle for the market to digest more expenditure in an unstable environment.
His predecessor loaded the company with debt and left on a high leaving deluge and hot air for the rest.
As for the name, the Virgin brand has a get out clause,to preserve its shine, for instance, if a business using its brand were to go under, it will do so using a different name. Just check out previous ventures that used the big name and how they were re-branded prior to the big news.
His predecessor loaded the company with debt and left on a high leaving deluge and hot air for the rest.
As for the name, the Virgin brand has a get out clause,to preserve its shine, for instance, if a business using its brand were to go under, it will do so using a different name. Just check out previous ventures that used the big name and how they were re-branded prior to the big news.
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As for the name, the Virgin brand has a get out clause,to preserve its shine, for instance, if a business using its brand were to go under, it will do so using a different name. Just check out previous ventures that used the big name and how they were re-branded prior to the big news.
Virgin Brides
Virgin Cars
Virgin Digital
Virgin Megastores
Just to name a few "Virgin" companies that went under or were closed down bearing their "Virgin" names...
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Yes well done.
I was taking the piss from the quote "Will PB drivers keep there jobs"?
I think the drivers are all safe at this stage given the accuracy of your post and the sarcasm of mine.
Cheers
Yes well done.
I was taking the piss from the quote "Will PB drivers keep there jobs"?
I think the drivers are all safe at this stage given the accuracy of your post and the sarcasm of mine.
Cheers
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T-Vasis,
My comment was a piss take.Of course it is about money. Understanding sarcasm is obviously not your strong point.
Virginexcess,
I agree entirely. JB is working overtime to rid the place of excess rubbish. Best thing is the dummy spits and tanty`s that this 'soon to be gone executive' had when told he was 'walking the green mile'. It was hilarious to watch !
You never know, once JB has finished his spring cleaning maybe the place will make money.
Rubbish. He is a business man and he invested to make money.
Virginexcess,
Now that is the best news i have heard in about 18 months.
Regardless of what Borghetti does from now on, he will be a legend in VA
You never know, once JB has finished his spring cleaning maybe the place will make money.