Merged: Qantas Engineers Set to Strike
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Resumedomain.com ads on seek
http://www.seek.com.au/jobsearch/ind...ccupation=1329
These ads were appearing in The Australian early last year. Is that how long they've been trying to recruit scabs for?
These ads were appearing in The Australian early last year. Is that how long they've been trying to recruit scabs for?
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Resumedomain.com ads on seek
http://www.seek.com.au/jobsearch/ind...ccupation=1329
Well. In true QF management style, it is not really 'cost effective' having the scabs flying around and staying in hotels while waiting in desperate anticipation of the ALAEA's next move. So some bright spark has come up with the ingenious idea of hiring the scabs and keeping them at their home base. Problem is where are they going to come from? You got rid of a heap of dedicated people and most of them with a conscience. Most have moved on and I am sure that when they know they'll be used for scabbing, they will steer clear. I have faith in them. Sure some of them may have already signed up, but they haven't stepped foot in the place,and I don't think that they will have a very likeable work environment. Is it really worth the scab money???
Well. In true QF management style, it is not really 'cost effective' having the scabs flying around and staying in hotels while waiting in desperate anticipation of the ALAEA's next move. So some bright spark has come up with the ingenious idea of hiring the scabs and keeping them at their home base. Problem is where are they going to come from? You got rid of a heap of dedicated people and most of them with a conscience. Most have moved on and I am sure that when they know they'll be used for scabbing, they will steer clear. I have faith in them. Sure some of them may have already signed up, but they haven't stepped foot in the place,and I don't think that they will have a very likeable work environment. Is it really worth the scab money???
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To a scab it is worth the money and there will be more of them than you can imagine...so, don't get too cocky!
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The advertising is there to keep the heat on YOU!
They would have all the scabs they need, available as and when required.
You should do some homework on past disputes where scabs have been involved.
They would have all the scabs they need, available as and when required.
You should do some homework on past disputes where scabs have been involved.
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I'll give the results of that of that homework,previous scabs in past disputes(AME's in 01-02)very few in numbers,in Sydney maybe there was at best 15 of the bottom feeders,all thinking they would have a future with engineering if they carried out the wishes of management,once the dispute was over all but a couple remained,the ones that left couldn't handle the silence,(imagine sitting on your own ever lunch time,no one to give you a hand if your stuck on a job,people looking straight through you),most cracked very quickly and left and the one's that remained also are now gone with the closure of H245...
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Here we go again, Mr Frozo why is it you are so hostile to strikes? Why is it you blame the union/employee when this sort of PROTECTED INDUSTRIAL ACTION is taken. You always seem to think that the employees want to go through the hardship, polarisation and pain of this sort of situation for the fun of it, or to just cause trouble. What if that's all that's left to do after they've exhausted all other avenues. Ohh, that's right your idea is they should leave, bugger family, workmates, pride, quality, history or any of those other things you don't seem to think employees can have with a job.
You don't seem to find fault in a posturing manager trying to begin or prolong conflict and alienate a workforce. Your strange ideals put new style managers in the god zone as being there only for the shareholders.
If people choose to undermine their workmates conditions for short term gain then that's their business, if others choose to treat them with disdain then that's their choice also. As we've seen in the past none of this would be good so let's just support a FAIR CPI rise and forget some Manager who thinks he'll look better if he squeezes a group of employees and hope his type dissappear and managers who understand the value of long term happy employees start to get a go rather than the old, dated style of managers we've been hearing and seeing.
You don't seem to find fault in a posturing manager trying to begin or prolong conflict and alienate a workforce. Your strange ideals put new style managers in the god zone as being there only for the shareholders.
If people choose to undermine their workmates conditions for short term gain then that's their business, if others choose to treat them with disdain then that's their choice also. As we've seen in the past none of this would be good so let's just support a FAIR CPI rise and forget some Manager who thinks he'll look better if he squeezes a group of employees and hope his type dissappear and managers who understand the value of long term happy employees start to get a go rather than the old, dated style of managers we've been hearing and seeing.
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Robbed this Quote from the link below. Keep up the fight boys,stay united and jam their overtime up their arse !!!!
http://www.hpae.org/clarion0704onevoice2.htm
"In life as we move forward not often enough do we pause to look back and appreciate some of the things we have done in the past that makes it a better place to live in now"
Others can do it, so can we:
http://www.hpae.org/clarion0704onevoice2.htm
Sorry boss,I'm unavailable...............hehe
http://www.hpae.org/clarion0704onevoice2.htm
"In life as we move forward not often enough do we pause to look back and appreciate some of the things we have done in the past that makes it a better place to live in now"
Others can do it, so can we:
http://www.hpae.org/clarion0704onevoice2.htm
Sorry boss,I'm unavailable...............hehe
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Overtime ban (wikipedia) :
An overtime ban is a form of industrial action where employees limit their working time to the hours specified in their contracts, refusing to work any overtime. Overtime bans are less disruptive than strike action, and since there is no breach of contract by the employees there is less chance of disciplinary action by the employer than there is with strikes. However, an
overtime ban can have a significant impact on industries which normally operate outside of regular office hours, such as emergency services,
EG (Broken plane) in a foreign port
, public transport,
EG (QF)..........HEHE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtime_ban
An overtime ban is a form of industrial action where employees limit their working time to the hours specified in their contracts, refusing to work any overtime. Overtime bans are less disruptive than strike action, and since there is no breach of contract by the employees there is less chance of disciplinary action by the employer than there is with strikes. However, an
overtime ban can have a significant impact on industries which normally operate outside of regular office hours, such as emergency services,
EG (Broken plane) in a foreign port
, public transport, EG (QF)
..........HEHEhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtime_ban
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They represent the selfish union members
You've got to be joking !!!
How is it selfish to ask for a payrise which keeps pace with inflation ???
Whats selfish is management giving themselves huge pay rises in mutiples of inflation and then tell people under them they have to tighten their belts and stop being greedy !!!
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You've got to be joking !!!
How is it selfish to ask for a payrise which keeps pace with inflation ???
Whats selfish is management giving themselves huge pay rises in mutiples of inflation and then tell people under them they have to tighten their belts and stop being greedy !!!
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PAF: I thought GD made it clear to you already years ago, they don’t give a stuff what platinum FF or any pax think. Write all the letter you want.
As you said, QF should be able to put out the wage they are offering us to the market and see who they get.
As they know they will get nobody, they are offering twice our wage to get people and still failing.
Don’t worry. I’m impressed with your Platinum thingy, even if QF aren’t.
As you said, QF should be able to put out the wage they are offering us to the market and see who they get.
As they know they will get nobody, they are offering twice our wage to get people and still failing.
Don’t worry. I’m impressed with your Platinum thingy, even if QF aren’t.
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Guys guys guys i've said it before ya gotta stop feeding the PAF's of the world, the more you try to get this guy to see common sense the more you feed him. If you ignore him completly (& there's an obvious way to do that) then he will soon tire & when he is no longer being fed by way of barking back at him he will die off!
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to the ginger beers, you should be asking for a 500% pay increase to keep up with management. imagine the uproar in the press, great way to tick off the bosses and highlight exactly what is going on.... then reduce your demands to a reasonable level.
c'mon PAF, you are really AIRCRAFT aren't you? i bet you tell people at parties you are a platinum ff just to impress them.
c'mon PAF, you are really AIRCRAFT aren't you? i bet you tell people at parties you are a platinum ff just to impress them.
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I dont believe PAF is for real.All that he says here is just for a reaction.
Actually,PAF is the best fisherman in the world,because with not much bait,he catches alot of ppruners.........Good one PAF...hahahaha
Throw us another line,and we'll see who takes the bait,hey!!
Actually,PAF is the best fisherman in the world,because with not much bait,he catches alot of ppruners.........Good one PAF...hahahaha
Throw us another line,and we'll see who takes the bait,hey!!
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PAF,
The Qantas engineers are not asking for the world. People wouldn't mind wage restraint so much if they saw it being exercised by those preaching it. Rather than the current management greed, justified by paying the going rate.
Aligning yourself with Dixons spin does not make you some quasi Captain of Industry or put you in the club with him. GD will not meet you some day, shake your hand, and declare you his soul brother. The sooner you realise this, the sooner your recovery will start.
Take deep breaths , go for a long walk, smell the roses, maybe do some volunteer work, try to empathise with others, and then you will start to feel better about yourself.
Hope this helps.
The Qantas engineers are not asking for the world. People wouldn't mind wage restraint so much if they saw it being exercised by those preaching it. Rather than the current management greed, justified by paying the going rate.
Aligning yourself with Dixons spin does not make you some quasi Captain of Industry or put you in the club with him. GD will not meet you some day, shake your hand, and declare you his soul brother. The sooner you realise this, the sooner your recovery will start.
Take deep breaths , go for a long walk, smell the roses, maybe do some volunteer work, try to empathise with others, and then you will start to feel better about yourself.
Hope this helps.
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If Qantas was loosing money then we would show a bit of restraint,but this company has been turning over profit year after year at the expense of it's work force.The only people (if you can call them that) that have given themselves pay rises are GD and his cronies.The work force is the one that has built this company and should be shown better respect.
Many of my friends have been asked to be a scab but have told the job agencies in no uncertain terms what they think of them.
Stick together people we will triumph in the end.
Many of my friends have been asked to be a scab but have told the job agencies in no uncertain terms what they think of them.
Stick together people we will triumph in the end.