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Old 18th May 2008, 09:58
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Jetblues,

Great info, do you mind me asking where you sourced it? Also heard rumours of Johannesburg, but that's it, rumours.

Thanks again.
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Old 18th May 2008, 10:01
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I guess if these routes and more are on the scope, they'll be needing more than 7 jets.
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Old 18th May 2008, 13:02
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FQ.II

MEL LAX = 7921nm

The 777-300ER is the Extended Range (ER) version of the 777-300 and contains many modifications, including the GE90-115B engines, which are the world's most powerful jet engine with 115,300 lbf (513 kN) thrust. Other features include raked wingtips, a new main landing gear, extra fuel tanks (2,600 gallons), as well as strengthened fuselage, wings, empennage, nose gear, engine struts and nacelles, and a higher MTOW, 775,000 lb versus 660,000 lb for the 777-300. The maximum range is 7,930 nautical miles (14,685 km). The 777-300ER program was launched by Air France, though for political reasons, Japan Airlines was advertised as the launch customer. The first flight of the 777-300ER was February 24, 2003. Delivery of the first 777-300ER to Air France occurred on April 29, 2004.
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Old 18th May 2008, 14:04
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maui maaaate, You should try going the other way from MEL - LAX. (across the pacific). It is only 6,883nm. courtesy of Great Circle Mapper
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Are they still taking CV's for flightdeck positions?
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Old 18th May 2008, 20:56
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Fumes, have heard Sth Africa as well. I''m hearing 3 777's to start with this year, then another 10+ ordered/optioned to grow the Airline. Economies of scale would suggest they need at least a dozen.
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Just checking to see if you are awake. My figure was statute miles.

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Old 19th May 2008, 03:39
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Maui & BSD, don't forget the significant headwinds on the LAX-MEL sector. The B773ER would most likely be payload limited on that sector.
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Old 21st May 2008, 03:44
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emails for the cpt and snr fos positions have been sent out for invites to interviews. It states that for cpt salary is $210 INCLUDING SUPER AND INCENTIVE PAYMENTs!!..... and snr FO $130 INCLUDING SUPER AND INCENTIVE PAYMENTS. incentive being propsed overtime etc.
So there you go boys and girls....
JFO - 54
SFO 130
CPT 210
all inculding super. before tax (obviously)..
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Old 21st May 2008, 04:00
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40 grand less then DJ737 Capt doing only 900 hrs a year. (incl super and some over time, not including allowances)

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Old 21st May 2008, 06:22
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Salary in the REGION of $210,000 and $130,000 including super and incentive. It does not state what incentive is. Incentive is yearly bonus (for retention) is it not and overtime/duty pay is seperate?
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Old 21st May 2008, 08:50
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Correct. Duty pay / overtime is not included. The SFO figure is closer to 140K with super included...'in the region of 130' is the wording I believe. I agree in advance, doesn't make a big difference, but attractive to many for year one in a new, Aus based company I reckon.
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Old 21st May 2008, 09:00
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It's still a crap deal. Some 737, A330 and 767 drivers in Australia earn more than that.
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Old 21st May 2008, 09:12
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If the pages and pages of multiple posts here are even slightly correct then one FACT remains. Guys are accepting jobs, and commencing training without a CONFIRMED salary package OR the package is so c@%p that they are embarrassed to confirm it is true.

The Captains salary is an insult. Break Right agree 110% why would any current VB B737 Captain take a substantial pay cut to move to the B777. I can't see any VB B737 Captain earning less than $200k this year - then there is super etc etc on top of that.

Good luck and good night.

Go the Blues !!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 21st May 2008, 09:22
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It sure is a crap deal Keg.

It amazes me how these characters include super and other bonuses in an attempt to inflate the gross salary. Superannuation in this country is a minimum of 9%. Some enlightened employers offer more, but many only offer what they have to. So, the gross salary is not $140K P/A for FO's it is $127.6 + Super. Also what is the "incentive"? If it were say $10K P/A, then this would translate to a base of $117.6, to fly a 777!!! Any other way of describing this is simply spin, and one would think any reasonable person would see it as such.

Look closely boys and girls. See what's going on around you. The amounts being offered by VOZ is nothing short of a con!
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Old 21st May 2008, 09:31
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Jetblues,

have to disagree with you completely.

Go the Maroons.
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Old 21st May 2008, 09:51
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Question

$210 including super in the real world equates to a deal of $190K including allowances. Nobody really includes super in the gross income deal. Less say $15 in allowances means about $175K real declared income (including overtime if you read the above into it).

How low can we go people?
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Old 21st May 2008, 09:58
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It's an absolute DISGRACE..........
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Their seems to be some feeling out there that flying a 777 is, for some reason, considerably harder than some smaller types. If so, why is this?

Sure, long haul is tyring, but less time is spent in critical phases of flight. It has always been apparent to me that pay is normally linked to seniority.....these VOz figures are entry level.....no seniority in the company. And the reality is, it is a new company. They're not going to offer what more established companies are currently offering.

Reading the comments above closely, nobody is inflating the salary. Seems most are saying 'including super and incentive payments', how clear do they have to be? The only consistantly inflated salary is that of the first year QF SO.

So 120K base for a direct entry, wide-body, FO, with no requirement to locate yourself overseas at any point....that's what's on offer. Can someone point out the better deal for the equivalent position?

I hate to echo other posts, but if it's not for you, why are you here?
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Dear XXXX
Thank you for applying to join the V Australia Flight Crew team.
We would like to invite you to attend an interview for a position as a XXXXXX on one of the following dates.
V Australia Interview Schedule
DAY
DATE
LOCATION
Tuesday
17- June-2008
Brisbane
Wednesday
18- June-2008
Brisbane
Thursday
19- June-2008
Brisbane
Tuesday
24- June-2008
Brisbane
Wednesday
25- June-2008
Brisbane
Thursday
26- June-2008
Brisbane
Friday
20 -June -2008
Brisbane
Friday
27- June-2008
Brisbane




If you wish to proceed with your application to join V Australia, please reply to this email by 2nd June 2008, nominating your preferred day/s to attend (please indicate your order of preference if more than one day suits). If you are unable to attend on any of these dates, please include a list of your available date/s and preferred city location/s.
We are unable to guarantee that your preferred date will be available when your response is received. It is therefore in your best interest to respond as soon as possible. We ask that you make yourself available for the entire day which is estimated to run from 0830 - 1800.
Information on Role for Captain and Senior First Officers
We wish to provide all Captain and Senior First Officer candidates with some additional information regarding employment with V Australia.
As Flight Crew you will be employed on an individual contract with Terms and Conditions defined by a V Australia-Employee arrangement (non-union).
Line Captains can expect a salary in the region of $210,000 per annum, and for Senior First Officers $130,000 per annum. This is a total salary and includes superannuation and incentive payments. There will be an additional supplement for Check and Training pilots. Endorsement costs (if applicable*) are for the employees account, and may be paid in full following training, or be recouped by "salary sacrifice" over a period of 18 months.
The V Australia Fatigue Risk Management System will permit rostering to a maximum of 1000 hours per annum and rosters will be based on a 28 day cycle. You will be guaranteed 9 days off in any roster period at your home base, and you will receive 42 days annual leave.
Further information will be available at interview.
* The following will not be required to repay endorsement costs:
Pilots with a current B777 rating.
Pilots transferring from Virgin Blue.
Confirmation of your Interview
The V Australia Recruitment Team will send you a confirmation email, which will provide the following information:
Further information on the interview process;
Your interview time, venue and address, and what to bring with you.
How to withdraw your application?
If you do not wish to pursue your application to join V Australia, we would appreciate your advice (by return email) and we will arrange for your details to be removed from our database.
Travel Assistance
V Australia is not able to provide you with assistance in travelling to or from the interview venues, either by way of reimbursing costs or making travel arrangements. All costs associated with attendance are your responsibility.
Lastly, this email is regarded by us as private and confidential correspondence, intended for the addressee only. It is not to be passed on to any other party or released into the public domain.
We look forward to your reply.
Kind Regards,
Maddie
The Flight Crew Recruitment Team
[email protected]
www.vaustralia.com.au
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