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Mega Merged: AsA ATC staffing levels

Old 15th Jan 2008, 10:53
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Ken's Coffee Promise

These idiots can even make cheap things free properly

New TIBA excuse...all controllers WED AM in BN CTR canteen...Not Likely!!

Apparently I have to be offered a voucher off my ALM to drink their coffee...and only normals not large ones

I think I would choke on it.....

I'll buy my own thanks!
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Old 15th Jan 2008, 19:21
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now that I've learned just how token the token gesture really is (vouchers, small cups etc), ditto to what EN_BN said. I'll buy my own.
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Old 15th Jan 2008, 22:54
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There's a stack of Flight Service Officers around the aisle who could do ELW/BLA.

Nah, come to think of it, it makes more sense to paralyse the worlds third busiest air route than back down and admit you've made a monumental cock-up.

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Old 15th Jan 2008, 22:59
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Wonder who's head is first on the chopping blocks?

Names?? Odds??
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Old 16th Jan 2008, 00:48
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Stolen from another thread...

"This core concern for safety makes both NASA and healthcare unique among industries. Budgets and deadlines dominate every business, inescapably so, but the failure of most businesses is financial, not fatal. As we have forced the space program and healthcare into the usual business model, we squeezed out safety. Other businesses can “push the envelope” and fail without serious consequence - a product or service doesn't sell, they go out of business, employees and sometimes CEOs lose their jobs. Pushing the envelope in our field can maim or kill people."

from an essay by James O. Westgard, PhD, and Sten Westgard
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Old 16th Jan 2008, 06:25
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"Wonder who's head is first on the chopping blocks?"


knowing this place, probably the controllers for being sick, or not available for overtime.
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Old 16th Jan 2008, 20:05
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Melbourne Centre shortages

"2 of the ML-SY sectors (Eildon Weir 123.75 and Benalla 132.2) had to combined for the evening gaggle 1700-1930 last night as there was only 1 endorsed controller"
Not just combined but TIBA from 0000 to 0545 this morning. And more resignations- golfing ATC's will improve their bunker play in the sand!
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Old 17th Jan 2008, 05:17
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from the CEO at lunchtime:

Ken Mclean to stop being GM of ATC, going to role of General Manager of Safety = effective next Monday!

wonder if that means no more free coffee?

also in the memo from TFN:
"In making this decision I am very mindful of the considerable efforts Ken has made in
laying the foundations of a substantial restructure of the Air Traffc Control Group."

now, to my mind, there is two ways to read that statement......



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Old 17th Jan 2008, 05:38
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Originally Posted by undervaluedATC
Ken Mclean to stop being GM of ATC, going to role of General Manager of Safety = effective next Monday!
Any news of whats happening to the incumbent in that position atm (JH)?
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Old 17th Jan 2008, 06:54
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JH = GM ATC from Monday
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Old 17th Jan 2008, 06:59
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Thanks Scurvy, I had hoped that was the case. He is a good guy, has worked traffic (good at it too); started in FS if memory is correct. Lets hope things start looking up.
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Old 17th Jan 2008, 08:25
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Oh boy......

BAAAAADDDDD DECISION to appoint JH to this position.

Agree - nice guy - and agree has SOME experience - but nowhere NEAR enough to cope with the current politics of AsA.

This is a 'lamb to the slaughter' situation.

Also don't quite understand the 'sideways' move of Kin to GM Safety. He has absolutely NO qualification for the job.

I would HOPE that CASA exercises its mandate to vet senior mangement qualifications for key roles, as part of its Part 172 certification. I suspect Kin will fail that test.

I also suspect that Kin kept the 'incriminating photos' - how else could he stay in the organisation.....
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Old 17th Jan 2008, 08:26
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I worked with him on ML Sectors years ago!
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Old 17th Jan 2008, 08:41
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Wellconcerned,

Agree with your comments, likeable bloke but its going to blow up in his face.

Talk about the poisoned chalice and being set up for a fall.

Kin is being well looked after by his buddy TFN, can't say the same for JH.

We passed the PNR a while ago anyway everyone has had it with the place.
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Old 17th Jan 2008, 09:15
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Yup!
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I'm guessing it was a case of you will, not would you like to!
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Old 17th Jan 2008, 09:40
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Shuffling the deckchairs gives an opportunity to blame the previous management, or more likely "we are entering a new era of cooperation and will be moving forward to fix the staffing f**k ups". Kin can see out his days on the sidelines and make a dignified exit in a couple of months once memories start to fade.

And I give up - what does DKW stand for?
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Old 17th Jan 2008, 10:02
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JH was an ADSO in Adelaide in the early 90's before going to Tassie training on the first ATC course there. Never good enough for FS.

Nice bloke if you are one of his mates, but no nouse for dealing with real people and his head is bigger than it ought to be. Got lots of qualifications though so I guess that makes him the right man for the job in TFN's mind.

JH is a bigger high flier than GH who got shafted and went to CASA.

A bit of flak will bring him back to earth as quickly as a B-17 with its tail shot off.
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Old 17th Jan 2008, 10:36
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Jh-gm Atc

Hmmm, Maggott17 I'm with you.

JH has already had the opportunity to prove himself in all care and no responsibility (i.e. SAFETY) and handballed all the hard ones back to Kin when he could have strutted his stuff!

Mindyou, poor old Kin not well served by the Game Show Host, can't believe he is still there after fronting the SDE Debacle in the ATC Planning network! The man has no shame ! Obviously ministerial responsibility does not extend to third level management!

Is it true that honesty will break out and the Australia Day awardee for knifing training is giving his medal back?? Thought not.

No ethics or morals in third level management!!

Of course no responsibility for AsA's woes belong to TFN or the invisible board.....The likes of NB-T only come out when there is a VIP soiree like the TWR SIM bash down south...
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Old 17th Jan 2008, 11:14
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who the hell is TFN?
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Old 17th Jan 2008, 11:18
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lol, that would mean "two first names" the CEO. Can't think of who NB-T is at the mo' tho'.
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