Mega Merged: Qantas Long Haul Cabin Crew Eba8 Negotiations
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Speaking of that LHR trip go mr thinking of the other "gem" of a trip.
The 16 day STATES trip.
The 16 day STATES trip.
- SYD-NAN. ( Plantation Is for 2 days )
- NAN-HNL ( Ilikai -love it -top of the "I" on Sunday 'arvo's-a few hundred Buds- "fall in love"-watch the sun rise )
- HNL-LAX. 2 nights-Redondo
- LAX-PPT 2 nights-Beach Cricket with Air N Z crews till....'late.!
- PPT-LAX.3 nights-feel like a trip to Mexico
- LAX-HNL. 2 nights-Hamburger Marys
- HNL-SYD. Hi Darling I'm home ...........Gee it was a tough trip !!!
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GOD'S and the EBA
Yes, they were good fun, but as many of us, I was young and single, every trip was a party! We all enjoyed 2 x 5 day slips in Athens and fun on the greek islands... Now, after 28 years and 51 years young, with wife and high school/Uni age kids etc.... I really do not want to be away for 16 days or 21 days. My priority is to be home weekends etc and enjoy time with my family. Am I being selfish..... or after 28 years of loyal service to Q, do I deserve to retain a little dignity and a modicum of choice in my last few years at Qantas ? I hope so....
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Stubby..Yeah,they were great trips.Hamburger mary's..mmmmmmm
Radiation Junkie...Don't let the company know that or they will increase the length of the trips.
qfcabin..Thanks for that....I was worried that my memory was slipping.
Radiation Junkie...Don't let the company know that or they will increase the length of the trips.
qfcabin..Thanks for that....I was worried that my memory was slipping.
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Pay Scales
As much as it is an anathema it would appear that a "B" payscale is on the agenda.
Current Employees maintain their salary while future employees are offered T and Cs similar to Jetstar.
Probably not reasonable but under the circumstances practical.
Current Employees maintain their salary while future employees are offered T and Cs similar to Jetstar.
Probably not reasonable but under the circumstances practical.
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It does seem to be the only way we will get new full time Australian based employees.
It would certainly be light at the end of the tunnel for the juniors who have had no progression, providing a form of seniority bidding is sustainable.
It would certainly be light at the end of the tunnel for the juniors who have had no progression, providing a form of seniority bidding is sustainable.
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re post 114 from missey seated etc.... i have told nothing but requsted assistance from l/haul to arrest possible stop to any stop work meeting etc from qf management. as has happened before...in their interests first!.... in wht agenda do you refer to is uncertain to me, i assume you could be a union rep from s/haul??????? as to negativity re my posts i question as to who is or has been a f/A eg. lowerlobe seems yes daar!!many seem ??? and as to twiggs she or he has something to contribure to this forum which i for one enjoy reading i dont think she or he is a seat polisher from qcc many of whom i am told read this forum including the aviation and general press....... happy landings LAST post from me on this thread cheers gigs.
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gigs...I for one agree with you that it would be far more preferable to have one union representing cabin crew.
It is also fairly obvious that one of the unions by it's own admission has a cosy relationship that some of us find interesting to say the least.
However,if you made your posts a little more easy to read you would be able to make your point.One possible reason may be is that you are prolific with SMS texting and you use that same technique here.
It is also fairly obvious that one of the unions by it's own admission has a cosy relationship that some of us find interesting to say the least.
However,if you made your posts a little more easy to read you would be able to make your point.One possible reason may be is that you are prolific with SMS texting and you use that same technique here.
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What we need is an office informant,someone who has their ears picking up everything which is said in the office.Someone who knows 'things'
Someone who's name starts with 'T'
Someone who's name starts with 'T'
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mel l/h
a certain f/a stabbed in the back of the neck with a wooden stake by pax into tassie has pulled the pin in mel l/h base. with loss of seniority due crew ex lhr base coming to mel his last roster was 11 mel-per-mel returns.
has gone to virgin!
not the only junior to have resigned recently in mel. f/a i spoke to said more to come, mel junior crew very depressed, sick leave up, now using syd crew again to cover sick leave. who would transfer to mel when even the lax are operated by akl crew
has gone to virgin!
not the only junior to have resigned recently in mel. f/a i spoke to said more to come, mel junior crew very depressed, sick leave up, now using syd crew again to cover sick leave. who would transfer to mel when even the lax are operated by akl crew
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The problem here is that we work for a company that does not believe that it's staff need to be happy.
Do you think they care about anyone in the Mel base or any base for that.GD's idea of light at the end of the tunnel is that we will have to pay for our jobs and not only that we are cost neutral but a source of income.
Do you think they care about anyone in the Mel base or any base for that.GD's idea of light at the end of the tunnel is that we will have to pay for our jobs and not only that we are cost neutral but a source of income.
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You can bet your balls that Qf mangement would be spewing 
about the rise of sick leave in the MEL base.
Haven't they got Lurch in their ranks now ???
The Visitor KPI's are all based on a number .....that number is the avg number of sick leave days to be taken per person per year. If they don't reach their target.....no bonus
As the unemployment numbers go down and down............this will put even more pressure on the 'negotiators" to come up with the goods. Now that Tiger, Virgin, Virgin-Int, JQ and the new EK base in SYD ( in 2008) are all in growth -mode..........where does this leave QF and the A-380. If those goons think they will be paying these crew peanuts for the "priviledge" to work on the "flying RSL club"......forget it !!!
As each day passes -Dixon will come to realise that the Human Resources required to work on his dream fleet of 787's and A-380's are going to need lots of Techies and lots of CC. They will go elsewhere if the T & C are crap-stuff the icon bit. Its survival of the fittest.
The day of reckoning is coming for Dixon. But hey-why should he worry?. He'll be back at Wagga pulling beers and having a punt on the dish lickers sooner than we think-Amen to that
about the rise of sick leave in the MEL base.Haven't they got Lurch in their ranks now ???
The Visitor KPI's are all based on a number .....that number is the avg number of sick leave days to be taken per person per year. If they don't reach their target.....no bonus
As the unemployment numbers go down and down............this will put even more pressure on the 'negotiators" to come up with the goods. Now that Tiger, Virgin, Virgin-Int, JQ and the new EK base in SYD ( in 2008) are all in growth -mode..........where does this leave QF and the A-380. If those goons think they will be paying these crew peanuts for the "priviledge" to work on the "flying RSL club"......forget it !!!
As each day passes -Dixon will come to realise that the Human Resources required to work on his dream fleet of 787's and A-380's are going to need lots of Techies and lots of CC. They will go elsewhere if the T & C are crap-stuff the icon bit. Its survival of the fittest.
The day of reckoning is coming for Dixon. But hey-why should he worry?. He'll be back at Wagga pulling beers and having a punt on the dish lickers sooner than we think-Amen to that
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there is more to it
not only is the mel crew being sh**ted but according to my sources there will be several training classes in akl in the new year. the word is around 300 new f/a's. doesn't take much to figure out where they going to fly to/from.
GD doen't really give a toss about the delays of the 787. if anything he can fly the older aircrafts longer therefore maximising profits. he is in caretaker mode for his last 18 month-speak dont upset my legacy
the f/a (who incidently was the only one who got the only chairmans award in qf) did go to virgin. reason being the flying out of melbourne and more MONEY in virgin. go figure working for a low cost carrier making more money working less then for the so called premium carrier.
GD doen't really give a toss about the delays of the 787. if anything he can fly the older aircrafts longer therefore maximising profits. he is in caretaker mode for his last 18 month-speak dont upset my legacy
the f/a (who incidently was the only one who got the only chairmans award in qf) did go to virgin. reason being the flying out of melbourne and more MONEY in virgin. go figure working for a low cost carrier making more money working less then for the so called premium carrier.
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classic
rumour says a bit of a cockup with 747-300 at avalon
has stuffed up the blue painted one and it may not be
coming back online. possibly some relief for mel l/h crew
from mel-per-mel patterns. how many classics are still
flying, excluding ones being cannibalised?
has stuffed up the blue painted one and it may not be
coming back online. possibly some relief for mel l/h crew
from mel-per-mel patterns. how many classics are still
flying, excluding ones being cannibalised?
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dreamin mate
the blue one in avalon has been stripped of spares to the bare minimum. its never going to fly again. old news. as for the rest of the 743, they are going to continue on the domestioc runs as the 787's are delayed.
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Is QF "management" dusting off the king gee "cabin crew" uniforms........?
I note with interest that QF have cancelled and rescheduled EP training for Longhaul cabin crew during the month of December.
A situation that will ensure that NO Longhaul crew would be in a position to see who is being trained in the EP department for a full month.
Maybe QF wish to avoid paying penalty rates for having to train during the midnight hours?
This highly unusual event is reminiscent of actions that were taken by QF during the lead up to our last EBA and involved buses with blacked out windows, secret passwords, bald faced lies and King Gee uniforms for strike breaking crew.
Shades of 3 years ago perhaps???????????
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Further info that has come to hand suggests that not all EP training courses have been cancelled however there will only be a dozen or so for the month.
Anyone know why??
A situation that will ensure that NO Longhaul crew would be in a position to see who is being trained in the EP department for a full month.
Maybe QF wish to avoid paying penalty rates for having to train during the midnight hours?
This highly unusual event is reminiscent of actions that were taken by QF during the lead up to our last EBA and involved buses with blacked out windows, secret passwords, bald faced lies and King Gee uniforms for strike breaking crew.
Shades of 3 years ago perhaps???????????
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Further info that has come to hand suggests that not all EP training courses have been cancelled however there will only be a dozen or so for the month.
Anyone know why??
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Why?
A chronic shortage of LH CC.
No one on temporary partime was awarded a partime roster for 254 and no one wil receive a partime roster for 255.
All training and/or leave that is deemed unecessary has been cancelled for both BPs.
No LSL wi be awarded for either BP
No one on temporary partime was awarded a partime roster for 254 and no one wil receive a partime roster for 255.
All training and/or leave that is deemed unecessary has been cancelled for both BPs.
No LSL wi be awarded for either BP