Mega Merged: Qantas Long Haul Cabin Crew Eba8 Negotiations
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blueloo,
Dob in a tech crew ?
They have always got off as soon as the parking brake is on and the company has never done anything about it.Or is there something new that has happened?
The company does like dobbers so tell us.
Mrpaxing,Your right about the bases.The company is like some addict and will not give up their habit easily and they will not want to admit any false cost saving or hidden cost because of the high crew turn over.
Dob in a tech crew ?
They have always got off as soon as the parking brake is on and the company has never done anything about it.Or is there something new that has happened?
The company does like dobbers so tell us.
Mrpaxing,Your right about the bases.The company is like some addict and will not give up their habit easily and they will not want to admit any false cost saving or hidden cost because of the high crew turn over.
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tech crew are expected to remain on board for the same reason crew are.
i.e. an emergency evac during disembarkation such as the qf 6 at SIT.
in practice they don't, try standing @l2/r2, except where they have same
transport to same hotel in slip ports
i.e. an emergency evac during disembarkation such as the qf 6 at SIT.
in practice they don't, try standing @l2/r2, except where they have same
transport to same hotel in slip ports
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Perhaps we should 'dob' on them when they start boarding before we get there?
Or perhaps we could 'dob' on them for a lot of things. Like only being able to get a drink at up to 4 hours interval accross the Pacific.
Personally however, they can 'dob' all they like and I for one will never bother lowering myself to that level of petty behaviour.
Or perhaps we could 'dob' on them for a lot of things. Like only being able to get a drink at up to 4 hours interval accross the Pacific.
Personally however, they can 'dob' all they like and I for one will never bother lowering myself to that level of petty behaviour.
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Bazzamundi,
I agree with you totally.I thought this was a joke at first .The company has got this fetish for dobbing and I don't know what on earth they think it achieves.I get along with most of the drivers and the current ones are a lot better than the last of the ex ww2 ones when I started.
It is un Australian and if you have a problem with someone then sort it out between the 2 of you.What happens up the track stay's there and the company does not need to know.
I agree with you totally.I thought this was a joke at first .The company has got this fetish for dobbing and I don't know what on earth they think it achieves.I get along with most of the drivers and the current ones are a lot better than the last of the ex ww2 ones when I started.
It is un Australian and if you have a problem with someone then sort it out between the 2 of you.What happens up the track stay's there and the company does not need to know.
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Thankyou for restoring my faith Red T. This whole scenario has me thinking of retirement.
It is true that many tech crew have been reported already for leaving when one or two wheelchair passengers are on board. From a practical perspective, when arriving in LA recently, the ground handlers turned up with 2 less wheelchairs than required. 3 pax were still on board for what would be about another 5 or so minutes. It was good to see common sense apply and at least half the crew go down and begin the customs process. Had we all waited till the very end, we would have all arrived at the immigration counter at the same time, and would have been about 5 or 10 minutes later getting to the hotel and off to sleep. All this after a 17.5 hour duty due to delays out of Syd.
Even with some of the wankers in both ranks we have had in the past, it has always been a general consensus that crew do what is best for each other without compromising passenger comfort and safety. Does this dobbing process really achieve anything other than angst among crew?
No I have never barged out in front of the pax as I don't personally believe it sets a good impression, but when people are straggling, there are only one or two left onboard wasting time, then sometimes I do go.
As for dobbing, well it is sad days indeed. And even sadder crew who participate.
It is true that many tech crew have been reported already for leaving when one or two wheelchair passengers are on board. From a practical perspective, when arriving in LA recently, the ground handlers turned up with 2 less wheelchairs than required. 3 pax were still on board for what would be about another 5 or so minutes. It was good to see common sense apply and at least half the crew go down and begin the customs process. Had we all waited till the very end, we would have all arrived at the immigration counter at the same time, and would have been about 5 or 10 minutes later getting to the hotel and off to sleep. All this after a 17.5 hour duty due to delays out of Syd.
Even with some of the wankers in both ranks we have had in the past, it has always been a general consensus that crew do what is best for each other without compromising passenger comfort and safety. Does this dobbing process really achieve anything other than angst among crew?
No I have never barged out in front of the pax as I don't personally believe it sets a good impression, but when people are straggling, there are only one or two left onboard wasting time, then sometimes I do go.
As for dobbing, well it is sad days indeed. And even sadder crew who participate.
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Personally I think its disgraceful (unless there is a real safety issue is at hand).
The people who have generated this culture have done it for a reason.
What they hope to achieve I cannot guess, because it is destroying goodwill and harmony amongst crew.
What usually or will end up happening is a pissing match between two groups who are meant to work as a team.
The people who have generated this culture have done it for a reason.
What they hope to achieve I cannot guess, because it is destroying goodwill and harmony amongst crew.
What usually or will end up happening is a pissing match between two groups who are meant to work as a team.
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It will be a sad day indeed when operational staff turn on each other in Qantas.
WE are Qantas, both a family and community of like minded professionals.
Yes, QF management are doing ALL in their power to foster and encourage this poisonous culture.
At all costs resist it.
And remember who the real enemy is..............
WE are Qantas, both a family and community of like minded professionals.
Yes, QF management are doing ALL in their power to foster and encourage this poisonous culture.
At all costs resist it.
And remember who the real enemy is..............
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Bazzamundi, What The.......
Yes as CC I have also "left the building" before all the stragglers shuffle off, with a CSM OK.
Agree with all your comments, but
.....Like only being able to get a drink at up to 4 hours interval accross the Pacific.....
I hope that was a joke Bazzamundi , you know that is untrue.
Unless you do a lot of AKL - LAX sectors, where I cannot vouch for the "jitcunnict" cabin crew !
Agree with all your comments, but
.....Like only being able to get a drink at up to 4 hours interval accross the Pacific.....
I hope that was a joke Bazzamundi , you know that is untrue.
Unless you do a lot of AKL - LAX sectors, where I cannot vouch for the "jitcunnict" cabin crew !
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It has happened, it was a Sydney LH crew, and I dealt with it by making my feelings known to them, as opposed to going back to management and telling tales.
It is a much simpler way of doing things.
It is a much simpler way of doing things.
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Why do we always have to go down this path.?
Have a couple of mates who are QF Pilots..we were having a drink in FRA a few years ago and crossed the path of some CC from another QF crew...what a rude bunch of tossers.We had some words and they departed.
Imagine the looks on their faces when I fronted up for transport the next night.We had a private briefing about their behaviour and an apology was offered in SIN a day later.
There will always be boofheads around irrespective of which uniform they wear
.Fortunately they are a minority.
Lets not give them any more air than they deserve.
Have a couple of mates who are QF Pilots..we were having a drink in FRA a few years ago and crossed the path of some CC from another QF crew...what a rude bunch of tossers.We had some words and they departed.
Imagine the looks on their faces when I fronted up for transport the next night.We had a private briefing about their behaviour and an apology was offered in SIN a day later.
There will always be boofheads around irrespective of which uniform they wear
.Fortunately they are a minority.
Lets not give them any more air than they deserve.
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Oh well...This was a good discussion until Scotty Poo with the inevitability of a recurring medical condition like Gout showed up again.
You have to understand that Scotty Poo does not want us here and so tries to incite trouble.So as the previous 2 posts suggest.....ignore the fool
..When was Halloween
You have to understand that Scotty Poo does not want us here and so tries to incite trouble.So as the previous 2 posts suggest.....ignore the fool
..When was Halloween
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To get back to the subject I agree with the others about the dobbing culture that the company seemingly encourages.
To dob someone in to the company only increases mistrust between the different sections of the company and helps the company in it's goal of preventing a unified workforce.
The only one to benefit from snitching is the company.
To dob someone in to the company only increases mistrust between the different sections of the company and helps the company in it's goal of preventing a unified workforce.
The only one to benefit from snitching is the company.
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heathrow crew recruitment
hi guys, wondering if anyone can help...
my girlfriend got the job as cabin crew with qantas the other day, passed her medical and is now waiting for a start date. it would be based at heathrow. any ideas when the courses are starting? shes been told its probably jan/feb time. any pm would be much appreciated.
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b.bear
my girlfriend got the job as cabin crew with qantas the other day, passed her medical and is now waiting for a start date. it would be based at heathrow. any ideas when the courses are starting? shes been told its probably jan/feb time. any pm would be much appreciated.
many thanks,
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Woop Woop Woop !
Thread Drift.
Come on folks this is about our EBA which incidentally expires next month.
This negotiation will be a watershed and will have an enormous impact on our job and its its T and Cs.
For many of us it will mean the difference between staying and leaving.
I love what I do but I have a family and our future expenditure and plans are predicated on my current income.Any downward change particularly on income will have a negative impact on my family's lives.
So please can we get back to the EBA discussions?
Come on folks this is about our EBA which incidentally expires next month.
This negotiation will be a watershed and will have an enormous impact on our job and its its T and Cs.
For many of us it will mean the difference between staying and leaving.
I love what I do but I have a family and our future expenditure and plans are predicated on my current income.Any downward change particularly on income will have a negative impact on my family's lives.
So please can we get back to the EBA discussions?
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I don't think that money will be the problem........
but rather how many hours we will be expected to work to earn it.
Any increase in hours worked will impact on our quality of life and for me this is more important than the dollars.
I respect that others may feel differently but I'm in the job for the long haul.
Any increase in hours worked will impact on our quality of life and for me this is more important than the dollars.
I respect that others may feel differently but I'm in the job for the long haul.
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A380 Flying
Any thoughts on who will fly the A380? was told by an AKL crew member that a seperate labour hire company will be set up shortly to employ crew on AWA to only fly the Airbus initally to LAX .
Surely would cause more division between long haul crew and management but you anyone think this is true..
Surely would cause more division between long haul crew and management but you anyone think this is true..
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fin review
it looks like the faaa has all but conceded conditions in the current eba negotiations. reading the article in the fin review yesterday i looks like MM gets a big bonus as well. he basicially agrees with everything qantas wants
