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Exodus from Skippers (Merged)

Old 2nd Mar 2008, 03:48
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Mono,

Don't get me wrong, I'm not upset about it. If anything I was probably done a favour but it sure didn't seem that way at the time. I hate to think that this sort of rubbish can become standard practice and that no-one does anything about it. Sure, I may be fine but it doesn't mean that it will be fine for anyone else subjected to the same treatment.
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Old 2nd Mar 2008, 03:51
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Thumbs up Taped conversations

..of course most companies would be very embarrassed when confronted with such a tape, and would most likely be willing to come to some sort of understanding to avoid ending up with the proverbial egg on their face the presentation of such evidence in the media or a courtroom could be much more damaging to a company than any court ruling..

If companies get away with this sort of intimidation they achieve at least part of their aim , and I can only appeal to individuals to have the guts to come forward, name and shame, and sue where possible.
 
Old 2nd Mar 2008, 06:07
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Shed dog who's morale is at an all time low.
Not the employees I speak to. Sure some unhappy.
8 capt of the D8 fleet going. Did'nt think there was 8 there and I spoke to 3 today and they are off no where.

I did hear that management not happy with some off metro fleet going to blue tail operator that doesnt have f50's who broke contract that they arent happy with, understandably too yes fleet numbers are low.

I guess this is a rumour network

For sale!! everything is for sale
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Old 2nd Mar 2008, 06:57
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Strange things are happening at present. Some crew are being told to take leave, and use up their holidays! Thats the tip of the iceberg!
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Old 2nd Mar 2008, 07:31
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heard rumor one of the dash 300s was bent on the ground at perth now in the hanger......
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Old 2nd Mar 2008, 09:58
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I did hear that management not happy with some off metro fleet going to blue tail operator that doesnt have f50's who broke contract that they arent happy with, understandably too yes fleet numbers are low.
You'd be unhappy too if your staff were leaving and all the deviousness you employed to keep them wasn't working!! Karma my friend. 3 months notice is the most ridiculously desperate measure I have heard of in recent times!! Come on vee tail, is 3 months fair and reasonable?

We can go on forever about this and I guarantee that Skippers has got far more out it's employees than is fair in the past. The "pay rise" in it's first form is proof enough. The only difference now is the choice that is available to pilots. As a group there has never been so many options and instead of trying to adjust, the likes of Skippers resort to sabotaging their own staff.

If you have been shafted by your own employer and failed to progress then had to continue working there, how productive an employee do you think you will be?

The longer this situation deepens then the more the Skippers/Rex's of the world will struggle. Time will show how dirty the fight will get.
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Old 2nd Mar 2008, 11:36
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REF+10. I NEVER SAID THAT IT WAS REASONABLE FOR 3 MONTHS OR ANY OF THE OTHER CRAP ON THE AWA, DON'T GET ME WRONG.

HOWEVER NO-ONE HAS BEEN HELD AT KNIFE POINT TO SIGN THESE AGREEMENTS AND MANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN SIGNED IN RECENT TIMES WHEN THEIR HAVE BEEN OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE.

AND ONE SHOULD'NT WORRY ABOUT ANOTHERS PROGRESS BECAUSE OF THEIR OPINION.

IF YOU SIGN IT THEN DON'T WINGE ABOUT HOW UNFAIR IT IS

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Old 2nd Mar 2008, 12:58
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VTail, May I draw your attention to your post #262 of this thread.

''That is no different to any other awa skippers have put out.
Even the old one, sign or your not employed.
New employees are new employees, if ya wanna work , you gotta sign''

Having experienced the knife point tatics of Skippers, they are alive and kicking!

Also we are all in the boat together, trying to get better conditions, so it is in every pilots interest to know if the new AWA is being signed. Otherwise the bar is being lowered. Its only the numbers not the people we are interested in!

For your reference I have not signed the agreement!
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Old 3rd Mar 2008, 00:26
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I thought the situation may have improved after the departure of the CEO, looks like it has got worse. If that's possible.

As LRT said, could be the best job in Perth.
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Old 3rd Mar 2008, 01:18
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Yes where has the CEO moved to? He would surely be snapped up since he was clearly such a good operator.

In answer to your question Skystar320...
Why would you sell a company that is earning the owners nearly double digit millions?
What if after having taken over the reins from the departing CEO you realise that it is in a very poor state with unsustainable staff turnover? What if you are the owner and already so rich that you couldn't spend the money you already have in the years left? What if you wish to sell it to make an investment elsewhere?

By the way are you saying earning as in profit? Net or gross? What sort of return on capital would that be then?
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Old 4th Mar 2008, 18:57
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heard on the grapevine that a few nasty letters/phone calls/emails to the new employers were made to paint of bad picture of departing staff ( wow thats gutsy ),
And from what I'm told it's not the first time, either.
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Old 6th Mar 2008, 04:38
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Apparently pays are late, again, no cash flow problems there.

Bet that just goes down a treat.

*Abandon ship*
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Old 6th Mar 2008, 05:05
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I know nothing about Skippers other than what I have read in this site.

Is it possible to save the company?

Is SQ a good guy?

Why did the last CEO leave, was it because of a fall out with SQ, or was he generally unsatisfactory? Where is he now?

Are their any external advisers who could be giving poor advice (eg Oldpaddock)?

Who else is on the board with SQ?
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Old 6th Mar 2008, 05:41
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Glad someone mentioned it!

Abandon ship is right, she's taking on water fast! Not to mention the complacent ego's at the top weighing it down further!
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Old 6th Mar 2008, 07:54
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Apparently the late pays is due to the pay clerk having a prem baby. Reasonable excuse, but it's not the first occasion in recent times that they've been late, not so great with morale at an all time low as is.
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Old 6th Mar 2008, 12:06
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RS was shown the door by the big SQ as he found out how close Skippers were/are to losing their AOC regarding a Jundee flight, something that RS failed to keep SQ in the loop with.
That is the rumour. I wouldn't piss on SQ if he were on fire, nor RS.


Who else remembers getting paid weekly and on time too? None of this fortnightly crap.
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Old 6th Mar 2008, 13:08
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"Apparently the late pays is due to the pay clerk having a prem baby"

So there is only 1 person who is able to process the pay. You bust you arse flying all week and your pay is late, ah how things will never change Skippers is truly a disgrace no wonder people are leaving in droves.


R.I.P skippers
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Old 6th Mar 2008, 13:31
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If the company views paying their staff on time as a low priority.

Wonder what the company would think if the staff viewed going to work tomorrow as a low priority, long weekends all round !!!!!.

Yee reaps what yee sows.

Viva la Revolucion!
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Old 7th Mar 2008, 03:39
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So "Apparently the late pays is due to the pay clerk having a prem baby" is the Skippers way of saying ''Cheque is in the mail!''
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Old 9th Mar 2008, 01:18
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Led Zep,

And what of the rumour there was a "slight discrepancy" with the performance data for Fitzroy that saw some 900 odd kg reduction in T/O weight when corrected.

I'd imagine it easy to win contracts off competitors when you can operate the same aircraft types and pull bigger numbers on any said day.

Or the rumour that the gaggle of new Dash 8's are not coming,

Or the rumour that the Metro's currently have no prospective buyers,

Or the rumour that more senior management are about to get the kiss of death,

Or the rumour that the TWU has them in the sights and SQ is not returning calls emails etc etc.

Dam i love the Redcliffe.

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