Exodus from Skippers (Merged)
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Yeah yeah. Skywest already has a branchwhich comes under the TWU. National Jet has the TWU fighting for them already. Network would be called a greeen tail by anyone. Maroomba is burgundy really. CASair doesn't have two planes the same colour. Alliance maybe?
Hence why I asked if it was the company at the title of this thread or not. I would think it was Alliance if it wasn't.
Hence why I asked if it was the company at the title of this thread or not. I would think it was Alliance if it wasn't.
Interesting remark from a mate in CASA today.
Apparently the WA office has instucted Skippers management to do more to retain their experienced pilots!
If the drain continues, they (CASA) are going to look seriously at restricting the operation.
Amazing! Even the department can see the danger. It appears that the only group not interested in the fundamental value of it's experienced pilots are Airline management themselves.
Funny old World!
Apparently the WA office has instucted Skippers management to do more to retain their experienced pilots!
If the drain continues, they (CASA) are going to look seriously at restricting the operation.
Amazing! Even the department can see the danger. It appears that the only group not interested in the fundamental value of it's experienced pilots are Airline management themselves.
Funny old World!
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How could CASA not be morbidly interested/concerned ?.
There are more than 2 Dash guys on the roll, rumour is that someone else, very very high in the C&T is putting some serious feelers out, looking for Jets and a lifestyle change ( less stress ), and will more than likely get same really soon.
More Bras resumes on desks and one of the other blue tail operators continues to make it a company sport to recruit from a very specific sector of the industry.
Contempt begets contempt, bad will begets bad will, disappointing but rather simple really.
There are more than 2 Dash guys on the roll, rumour is that someone else, very very high in the C&T is putting some serious feelers out, looking for Jets and a lifestyle change ( less stress ), and will more than likely get same really soon.
More Bras resumes on desks and one of the other blue tail operators continues to make it a company sport to recruit from a very specific sector of the industry.
Contempt begets contempt, bad will begets bad will, disappointing but rather simple really.
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piston broke, we picked up on it but there were no replies. I doubt that it would be the sort of thing discussed on this type of forum even if you did know something about it...
Whether CASA in any office has or has not instructed/suggested/demanded that management do more to retain key staff is really being made rapidly irrelevant.
Management came up with a new AWA with more dollars but poor terms, the pilot body has replied with their feet by at least three resigning in the last 10 days and three others known to be having interviews this and next week.
I think that answers the offer of a new AWA
. The smart thing to do would be for the pilot group to now act as a group nominate some movers and shakers to redraft the AWA more to their liking and then offer it back to management as a solution.
The next few months will be critical for this company. Apparently Network also increased their pay but without the onerous conditions.
Let the games commence.
Management came up with a new AWA with more dollars but poor terms, the pilot body has replied with their feet by at least three resigning in the last 10 days and three others known to be having interviews this and next week.
I think that answers the offer of a new AWA
. The smart thing to do would be for the pilot group to now act as a group nominate some movers and shakers to redraft the AWA more to their liking and then offer it back to management as a solution.The next few months will be critical for this company. Apparently Network also increased their pay but without the onerous conditions.
Let the games commence.
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Apparently at some stage the AFAP has had a close'ish working history with Skippers, have they involved themselves in the latest AWA offer ?, as a Pilot Union body or Mediator ?.
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They are making all Braz F/O's sign it. The latest batch of cadets all signed their life away. I hear a few experienced (500multi) guys have knocked back the AWA and have gone to greener pastures instead. 25k bond 3 months notice, the great Skippers shaft!
They are making all Braz F/O's sign it.
Sign or else we will find someone else, has lost its impact all of a sudden.
Guys, stick together and write your own AWA and pass it back up the chain to the boss and show them what YOU want in an AWA.
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Hard to get a backbone when so many cadets with stars in their eyes and daddy's dollars paying for everything!
Grapevine has it 7 capts are leaving or in the process of leaving after being told to sign the AWA
Just had to spill the beans!
Grapevine has it 7 capts are leaving or in the process of leaving after being told to sign the AWA
Just had to spill the beans!
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Nothing that Skippers are doing in recent times, in my opinion is legally binding. They are shooting themselves in the foot and will continue to lose pilots. Guys/Girls that pay for their endorsements ($8500) and get a command endorsement are being asked to pay out their bond for the upgrade, even though the AWA states 'where you already hold an endorsement relative to the upgrade (ie. FO -> Capt) you are not required to pay'.
The result? They dock you of your final pay. Let's not let this continue.
The result? They dock you of your final pay. Let's not let this continue.
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I wouldn’t bother wasting your time with Skippers and similar minded companies. A tiger doesn’t change its stripes – or in this case, a pig’s tail is always crooked.
There are much better jobs out there with companies that will survive the next financial year.
Skippers RIP 1990-2008.
There are much better jobs out there with companies that will survive the next financial year.
Skippers RIP 1990-2008.
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Brazdriver,
No offence buddy, none of the existing staff are being forced to sign the new AWA ( as far as i have seen ), it quite clearly states within the offer " Employee's wishing to remain on their existing AWA are entitled to do so and will not be prejudiced as a result of their decision ", that is consistent with what i've seen in the workplace, and no, i did not accept the new AWA for personal reasons.
As for new staff or fleet upgrades, well that's their decision.
Stating that Pilots are being forced to sign anything is quite an allegation, and it would be considered Libel, unless you are absolutely, first hand, sure of it, perhaps you should edit said statement for your own benefit.
No offence buddy, none of the existing staff are being forced to sign the new AWA ( as far as i have seen ), it quite clearly states within the offer " Employee's wishing to remain on their existing AWA are entitled to do so and will not be prejudiced as a result of their decision ", that is consistent with what i've seen in the workplace, and no, i did not accept the new AWA for personal reasons.
As for new staff or fleet upgrades, well that's their decision.
Stating that Pilots are being forced to sign anything is quite an allegation, and it would be considered Libel, unless you are absolutely, first hand, sure of it, perhaps you should edit said statement for your own benefit.
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