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Jetstar to spread like contagious disease....... :)
Jetstar to expand flights to Europe and US
Qantas' low-cost carrier Jetstar will expand flights into Europe and North America by 2010, Jetstar chief executive Alan Joyce says.
Mr Joyce today unveiled four refurbished planes that will begin taking the airline's first international passengers later this month.
The international fleet will begin with four 303-seat Airbus A330s, with the inaugural flight from Melbourne to Bangkok on November 23.
Other international flights being phased in from late November will go to Japan, Vietnam, Phuket, Bali and Hawaii.
Mr Joyce said the airline would expand into Europe and North America by 2010.
He said the refurbished Airbuses had been inherited from Qantas and were three years old.
But, he said, Jetstar would purchase a Boeing 787 by late 2008 and ultimately replace the current fleet with up to 15 of the planes.
"We've been saying in advertising now for the last few months that it's all about choice,'' he told guests at Melbourne Airport.
"The first big one worth mentioning is StarClass (StarClass). StarClass is a business-type product at economy prices.''
The revamped Airbuses still sport the silver body and orange under-belly of the domestic carriers, but the seats have been reupholstered with plush leather.
There are 38 StarClass seats where passengers will receive a full meal and entertainment service.
Passengers in the 265 economy seats can pay as they go if they want food or extra entertainment.
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- November 3, 2006 - 12:22PM
Qantas' low-cost carrier Jetstar will expand flights into Europe and North America by 2010, Jetstar chief executive Alan Joyce says.
Mr Joyce today unveiled four refurbished planes that will begin taking the airline's first international passengers later this month.
The international fleet will begin with four 303-seat Airbus A330s, with the inaugural flight from Melbourne to Bangkok on November 23.
Other international flights being phased in from late November will go to Japan, Vietnam, Phuket, Bali and Hawaii.
Mr Joyce said the airline would expand into Europe and North America by 2010.
He said the refurbished Airbuses had been inherited from Qantas and were three years old.
But, he said, Jetstar would purchase a Boeing 787 by late 2008 and ultimately replace the current fleet with up to 15 of the planes.
"We've been saying in advertising now for the last few months that it's all about choice,'' he told guests at Melbourne Airport.
"The first big one worth mentioning is StarClass (StarClass). StarClass is a business-type product at economy prices.''
The revamped Airbuses still sport the silver body and orange under-belly of the domestic carriers, but the seats have been reupholstered with plush leather.
There are 38 StarClass seats where passengers will receive a full meal and entertainment service.
Passengers in the 265 economy seats can pay as they go if they want food or extra entertainment.
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Goodbye Qantas....... i suppose we will have to get used to wearing thongs, tracksuit pants and a Flanno when we fly anywhere, i suppose a plastic bag for carry on wouldn't look out of place either...
how long before first and business class service are relegated to train travel only?
how long before first and business class service are relegated to train travel only?
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v. in·her·it·ed, in·her·it·ing, in·her·its
v. tr.
To receive (property or a title, for example) from an ancestor by legal succession or will.
To receive by bequest or as a legacy.
To receive or take over from a predecessor: The new administration inherited the economic problems of the last four years.
Biology. To receive (a characteristic) from one's parents by genetic transmission.
To gain (something) as one's right or portion.
Well he got that right...
"The first big one worth mentioning is StarClass (StarClass). StarClass is a business-type product at economy prices.''
The revamped Airbuses still sport the silver body and orange under-belly of the domestic carriers, but the seats have been reupholstered with plush leather.
There are 38 StarClass seats where passengers will receive a full meal and entertainment service.
Passengers in the 265 economy seats can pay as they go if they want food or extra entertainment.
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The revamped Airbuses still sport the silver body and orange under-belly of the domestic carriers, but the seats have been reupholstered with plush leather.
There are 38 StarClass seats where passengers will receive a full meal and entertainment service.
Passengers in the 265 economy seats can pay as they go if they want food or extra entertainment.
AAP
A 'business-type product' at economy prices??
'passengers will receive a full meal and entertainment service' Isn't that just today's economy service? (on every other half decent airline) So you get an economy service at economy prices?? Wow.
I really wonder whether there are so many of the great unwashed that are prepared to torture themselves for 8 hours on a pay-as-you-go basis for the sake of a few dollars. Methinks Jetjoke are trying to force customers down a very unappealing road of choice to a product of little value. Vote with your feet and bring on more services to Australia by Emirates and their ilk.
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Your missing the point guys...it's Jetstar spin, we have to believe it, It's called brainwashing, it happens when you accept a position as a pilot with Jetstar, so why should the public be any different.
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Yaaaaawwwwn.
There actually WAS a time when I shared the same sentiments as those above. Unfortunatley reality kicked in.
Domestically they are doing extremely well. I believe September was a record month, have not heard about October yet. T
The FACT is that Jetstar international is WAY ahead of its own projections for forward bookings. Ask your hairdresser, neighbour etc about them, they all know about Jetstar international and are excited about the prospect of cheaper international travel.
Sure, the passengers tend to be more from the rougher end of town, so what?
There actually WAS a time when I shared the same sentiments as those above. Unfortunatley reality kicked in.
Domestically they are doing extremely well. I believe September was a record month, have not heard about October yet. T
The FACT is that Jetstar international is WAY ahead of its own projections for forward bookings. Ask your hairdresser, neighbour etc about them, they all know about Jetstar international and are excited about the prospect of cheaper international travel.
Sure, the passengers tend to be more from the rougher end of town, so what?
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so what? i CHOOSE to have a premium service, i CHOOSE to pay a little more for a nice big seat and to be waited on.. when i travel by air...
with Jetscar taking over everything, i no longer have that CHOICE!
hence i have no longer Chosen QF....
Sure J* are doing well, and good on them for opening up air travel to the great unwashed masses, but what about the great clean masses that appreciate service? and a quality product?? and don't mind paying for that quality..... what Choice do they have? obviously not an Australian option anymore!
with Jetscar taking over everything, i no longer have that CHOICE!
hence i have no longer Chosen QF....
Sure J* are doing well, and good on them for opening up air travel to the great unwashed masses, but what about the great clean masses that appreciate service? and a quality product?? and don't mind paying for that quality..... what Choice do they have? obviously not an Australian option anymore!
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Yeah, Jetstar Internationals initial bookings are good, they are all the transferred passengers from Qantas services........same thing when they started the Tasman flying, bragged about athe high load factors when really, they were QF pax transferred from Qantas/Jetconnect flights. Never let the facts stand in the way of good press...or in Jetstar speak, good spin.
If Jetstar are doing so good, why are Virgin undaunted. Virgin are making good profits without hedging and the same handouts that QF give Jetstar. Maybe a good frequency of flights to certain centers in the jungle jet with Virgin might turn out to be more of a success than one Jetstar A320 everyday to the same port? I reckon Virgin may be onto something?
I wonder how many passengers will return to Jetstar international after discovering they don't get the perks no more..time will tell.
If Jetstar are doing so good, why are Virgin undaunted. Virgin are making good profits without hedging and the same handouts that QF give Jetstar. Maybe a good frequency of flights to certain centers in the jungle jet with Virgin might turn out to be more of a success than one Jetstar A320 everyday to the same port? I reckon Virgin may be onto something?
I wonder how many passengers will return to Jetstar international after discovering they don't get the perks no more..time will tell.
Ask your hairdresser, neighbour etc about them
I used to travel Qantas, Now my choice is not to fly Jetpox.
Go Tiger I say.
Darwin to Phuket return, and you can get there in 1 day, $450.
Jetpox is around $900 just darwin Singapore return.
The only way for this contagious disease to spread is if they get sufficient pilots. The only way that we can stop conditions being undermined is for us all to stop sniping at the perceived tall poppies and band together. I know that some of you will say that it's fine for me to mouth off when I'm enjoying the job that many of you want, however, I'm very concerned about the future of our profession. I want all those new to the profession to have the same opportunities that I have had.
With the very large number of aircraft that Qantas and Virgin Blue have ordered as well as many of the overseas carriers, there is a very strong demand for pilots over the next 3 to 6 years. If as a pilot group we black ban working for Jetstar, then conditions will not be eroded. Those of you in GA who want an airline job will be making a better long term decision about your careers by rejecting Jetstar now, staying another 12-18 months in GA and then end up with a career with QF, DJ or a quality overseas operator (possibly based in Oz). At least you would have decent terms and conditions and you will have a sense of pride in that you didn't contribute to undermining your profession.
With the very large number of aircraft that Qantas and Virgin Blue have ordered as well as many of the overseas carriers, there is a very strong demand for pilots over the next 3 to 6 years. If as a pilot group we black ban working for Jetstar, then conditions will not be eroded. Those of you in GA who want an airline job will be making a better long term decision about your careers by rejecting Jetstar now, staying another 12-18 months in GA and then end up with a career with QF, DJ or a quality overseas operator (possibly based in Oz). At least you would have decent terms and conditions and you will have a sense of pride in that you didn't contribute to undermining your profession.
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Going Boeing, I support the cause, but suggesting GA guys should knock back JetStar is insane. You can't ask that of these folks. Perhaps hold out on application, but even that is a tall order. I'm sure you are aware that the * has been offering opportunities to some pilots otherwise condemed to GA or small regional operators. As I understand it, unlike QF, Jetstar don't need year 12 graduates, and thus opens the door to many folk who can't go overseas for all sorts of reasons.
I should point out that I don't work for the *, nor do I support the conditions which they offer their pilots. However, I think its unreasonable to expect those who are offered an opportunity to further advance their career, to fight our fight. I do understand that QF can potentially erode mainline into the dust by expanding the orange beast, but I do not think that Joe GA who has been offered a significant pay rise and jet flying opportunity should knock it back because QF pilots (and potentially the rest) will get screwed. How we actually attack the problem? I dunno....
I should point out that I don't work for the *, nor do I support the conditions which they offer their pilots. However, I think its unreasonable to expect those who are offered an opportunity to further advance their career, to fight our fight. I do understand that QF can potentially erode mainline into the dust by expanding the orange beast, but I do not think that Joe GA who has been offered a significant pay rise and jet flying opportunity should knock it back because QF pilots (and potentially the rest) will get screwed. How we actually attack the problem? I dunno....
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Are they changing the rego?
Pity to see those great old Qantas rego's that have adorned the premier aircraft over the years plastered on the side of that rubbish!
Pity to see those great old Qantas rego's that have adorned the premier aircraft over the years plastered on the side of that rubbish!
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Yes. What a disgrace..........
Boeing 707-138 VH-EBD at Karachi during its delivery flight in August 1959, according to http://www.707.adastron.com/gallery/vh-ebd-1.htm
Boeing 707-138 VH-EBD at Karachi during its delivery flight in August 1959, according to http://www.707.adastron.com/gallery/vh-ebd-1.htm
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But hey longjohn, why let facts get in the way of a good story?