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This world is becoming ever more small, immigration has taken over Europe and North America, I think Australia is just catching up. In Canada we have seen our economy bloom due to immigration
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Technical Publication for Qantas Engineering staff
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Just a quick note coming from an IT engineering job at an Australian airline (resigned two years ago)
Technical Publications for Aircraft Engineers naturally come from Boeing Airbus etc. The publications are updated when required usually on a fortnightly basis on all types of Aircraft parts, not all of the technical publications are updated only when an update is required such as a new wing part etc.
The stringent policy CASA has place on Technical Publication are quite amazing. If a new publication is listed it must be updated ASAP in a certain time frame. The old CD or DVD must be destroyed (and stored) and new CD must be placed in a secure filing cabinet and recorded when it was installed, by whom, what was updated etc
(Much more to it, but you get the drift)
I hope that Qantas managers has really thought this one out as Technical Publication are the bible to Aircraft engineers and must be kept up-to-date. Who will be overseeing that publications are updated in India, CASA (I don’t think so).
I feel that if a third party Indian company or whoever understands the importance and implications to if Technical Publications are not up-to-date.
You come to your own conclusion.
Just a quick note coming from an IT engineering job at an Australian airline (resigned two years ago)
Technical Publications for Aircraft Engineers naturally come from Boeing Airbus etc. The publications are updated when required usually on a fortnightly basis on all types of Aircraft parts, not all of the technical publications are updated only when an update is required such as a new wing part etc.
The stringent policy CASA has place on Technical Publication are quite amazing. If a new publication is listed it must be updated ASAP in a certain time frame. The old CD or DVD must be destroyed (and stored) and new CD must be placed in a secure filing cabinet and recorded when it was installed, by whom, what was updated etc
(Much more to it, but you get the drift)
I hope that Qantas managers has really thought this one out as Technical Publication are the bible to Aircraft engineers and must be kept up-to-date. Who will be overseeing that publications are updated in India, CASA (I don’t think so).
I feel that if a third party Indian company or whoever understands the importance and implications to if Technical Publications are not up-to-date.
You come to your own conclusion.
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And From Across the Ditch
Air New Zealand confirms 70 jobs to go to Fiji
Wednesday, 4 October 2006
Air New Zealand management has given to the green light to a proposal to outsource most of its finance department clerical work to Fiji.
It was revealed that approximately 70 clerical jobs in Air New Zealand’s finance business area, called Financial Shared Services will move offshore to Fiji from January 2007.
The latest move has demoralised current finance workers, with the union representing them quick to criticise Air NZ.
Service and Food Workers Union regional secretary Jill Ovens commented: “Air New Zealand corporate management is driven by ideology. The focus is to secure a low-paid workforce who are passive and compliant. If the outsourcing is a failure, it will be a huge cost to the company. But they will have succeeded in de-unionising a whole section of their workforce, so they probably think it is worth the risk.
The group will also announce this week whether it will contract out Air New Zealand ground staff at airports. More than a thousand jobs could be shed by the company if the contracting out is implemented.
So will QF Finance follow? As more and more departments go off shore - perhaps it's time that all unions/staff work together on this. Betcha IT nad Finance have never worried about Tech and Cabin crew before? Betcha they will start to take an interest in what's happening now?
Wednesday, 4 October 2006
Air New Zealand management has given to the green light to a proposal to outsource most of its finance department clerical work to Fiji.
It was revealed that approximately 70 clerical jobs in Air New Zealand’s finance business area, called Financial Shared Services will move offshore to Fiji from January 2007.
The latest move has demoralised current finance workers, with the union representing them quick to criticise Air NZ.
Service and Food Workers Union regional secretary Jill Ovens commented: “Air New Zealand corporate management is driven by ideology. The focus is to secure a low-paid workforce who are passive and compliant. If the outsourcing is a failure, it will be a huge cost to the company. But they will have succeeded in de-unionising a whole section of their workforce, so they probably think it is worth the risk.
The group will also announce this week whether it will contract out Air New Zealand ground staff at airports. More than a thousand jobs could be shed by the company if the contracting out is implemented.
So will QF Finance follow? As more and more departments go off shore - perhaps it's time that all unions/staff work together on this. Betcha IT nad Finance have never worried about Tech and Cabin crew before? Betcha they will start to take an interest in what's happening now?
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Its Time
We all get on here and highlight the shortcomings of Aviation management.
We Can do something about rather than just complain.
A good place to start is always the ballot box.
I have had enough ...staff wages are too high so outsource to India.
CEOs salaries must always be compared to those in NYC.
Where is the goddam fairness in that?
Workchoices legislation is supposed to create jobs...but we have full employment...so we increase immigration.
There is an genda here...we will end up being the working poor..a la the Amercian model(dream)
Get me the rifle Martha I'm goin huntin.
We Can do something about rather than just complain.
A good place to start is always the ballot box.
I have had enough ...staff wages are too high so outsource to India.
CEOs salaries must always be compared to those in NYC.
Where is the goddam fairness in that?
Workchoices legislation is supposed to create jobs...but we have full employment...so we increase immigration.
There is an genda here...we will end up being the working poor..a la the Amercian model(dream)
Get me the rifle Martha I'm goin huntin.
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A leaked media report today October the 9th 2020 reveals QF is about to make it’s last Australian employee redundant.
Apparently Mrs. Beryl Johnson a tea lady in the QF boardroom will be made redundant after she has returned from forced Long Service Leave.Mrs Johnson who has worked for QF for 25 years initially joined the company as a second officer.
Board member and financial officer Mr. I.am.Greedy said it was the culmination of the company’s Sustainable future and Australian employee minimisation program. It is essential he said that if the “Spirit of Australia” is to survive then it cannot and will not employ Australians. “Australian employees actually believe that they are entitled to earn a living,” he said outside the local Porsche dealership where he was picking up his latest company car.
We cannot be held responsible for their cost of living and if I am going to be able to send my children overseas to boarding schools then this is how it has to be. Mrs. Johnson was dogmatic with the board in negotiating her last AWA Mr. Greedy said.” She actually believed she was entitled to a lunch break and wanted the weekends off, how absurd”
Mr. Greedy also said that since the board was relocating to Monaco it has no further need of a tea lady in Sydney. He also said that reports that the board was self centered because of it’s generous bonus payments this year were false.
“Do you realise the cost involved not to mention the stress of moving to Monaco, my third wife does not know where to start and we have had to hire a removal’s consultant and the cost of transporting my Porsche is huge. Then there is the cost of renting an apartment suitable for our needs but luckily we are going to be subsidized by the company
The share price rose 2c to 58c
Apparently Mrs. Beryl Johnson a tea lady in the QF boardroom will be made redundant after she has returned from forced Long Service Leave.Mrs Johnson who has worked for QF for 25 years initially joined the company as a second officer.
Board member and financial officer Mr. I.am.Greedy said it was the culmination of the company’s Sustainable future and Australian employee minimisation program. It is essential he said that if the “Spirit of Australia” is to survive then it cannot and will not employ Australians. “Australian employees actually believe that they are entitled to earn a living,” he said outside the local Porsche dealership where he was picking up his latest company car.
We cannot be held responsible for their cost of living and if I am going to be able to send my children overseas to boarding schools then this is how it has to be. Mrs. Johnson was dogmatic with the board in negotiating her last AWA Mr. Greedy said.” She actually believed she was entitled to a lunch break and wanted the weekends off, how absurd”
Mr. Greedy also said that since the board was relocating to Monaco it has no further need of a tea lady in Sydney. He also said that reports that the board was self centered because of it’s generous bonus payments this year were false.
“Do you realise the cost involved not to mention the stress of moving to Monaco, my third wife does not know where to start and we have had to hire a removal’s consultant and the cost of transporting my Porsche is huge. Then there is the cost of renting an apartment suitable for our needs but luckily we are going to be subsidized by the company
The share price rose 2c to 58c
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I might have left the airline now but I doesn't disregard that there needs to be some balance. The sad truth is this-
Qantas needs to compete with overses operations and that is a fact and as soon as you understand that then we can all move on. If that takes some pain in the meentime then so be it if you cant recognise that then you wont have a airline. The board on the other hand also need to be competetive and we need the best board members. This also takes matching simalar prices for there services that they would get overses because there jobs are always on the line and can get voted off the board if they dont perform. Its supply and demand and some of the pruners need to understand that before they enter into complicated debates on maters they now little about.
Best of luck to you all
Qantas needs to compete with overses operations and that is a fact and as soon as you understand that then we can all move on. If that takes some pain in the meentime then so be it if you cant recognise that then you wont have a airline. The board on the other hand also need to be competetive and we need the best board members. This also takes matching simalar prices for there services that they would get overses because there jobs are always on the line and can get voted off the board if they dont perform. Its supply and demand and some of the pruners need to understand that before they enter into complicated debates on maters they now little about.
Best of luck to you all
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Mr QANTAS...And I thought I had a sense of humour but that one takes the cake....I especially like the one about performance from directors and if it is not up to scratch then they get shown the door...
Can you explain then the performance of a Australian telecom company and it's profit/share price plummeting and the increase in the bonus and remuneration for the CEO...kind of contradicts your theory just a bit.....
There is nothing complicated about greed which is rampant throughtout the corporate sector....I would like to see the steps Darth would take if the company were making a loss instead of a healthy profit
Can you explain then the performance of a Australian telecom company and it's profit/share price plummeting and the increase in the bonus and remuneration for the CEO...kind of contradicts your theory just a bit.....
There is nothing complicated about greed which is rampant throughtout the corporate sector....I would like to see the steps Darth would take if the company were making a loss instead of a healthy profit
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slight thread drift..
but did anyone else see the article in Monday's Australian's business section titled 'Bob now bats for other team on CEO pay pitch'? It quotes the former Westpac CEO, Bob Joss, who makes some very interesting observations about executive remuneration and what he views now to be the flawed logic which sets the high sums in many packages. To me it also provokes interesting comparisons with the logic used by managers toward employees (why pay more if they're not leaving?) as distinct from the smoke-and-mirrors for themselves.
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I'd post a link if I knew how...
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Which QF director has ever been shown the door? I can't think of any. I could be wrong, but the only one that has been replaced was Trevor Kennedy. And I think that was more to do with his legal troubles not how he conducted his role of director.
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Not that I have kept a close watch on many company's but I can't remember any directors that have been kicked off the board anywhere.
Some have left but have taken a multi million dollar payout if they have left before their contract has finished.
The part about QF is that they keep harping on about the "SPIRIT OF AUSTRALIA" to get sympathy and loyalty from the Australian public but then outsource Australian jobs and are still making a healthy profit even with the increased fuel prices.
If they only worked with their employees instead of constantly attacking them they would have the best airline in the world
Some have left but have taken a multi million dollar payout if they have left before their contract has finished.
The part about QF is that they keep harping on about the "SPIRIT OF AUSTRALIA" to get sympathy and loyalty from the Australian public but then outsource Australian jobs and are still making a healthy profit even with the increased fuel prices.
If they only worked with their employees instead of constantly attacking them they would have the best airline in the world
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Yep... nought in the Qantas Sale Act to say that they needed to keep it majority Australian staffed. Owned and run (ie. directors), yes, but staff...
'Spirit'? Possibly operating to the letter rather than the spirit of the Act.
'Spirit'? Possibly operating to the letter rather than the spirit of the Act.
