Qantas passes baton to Jetstar
I am sure someone will eventually, that is the nature of the beast now. All anyone ever thinks about is the money. If you are in Aviation for the money maybe it's time to find something else to do.
Me, I just like flying aeroplanes and I have been undercut before in other parts of the world. One accepts it or one gets out. Be realistic my friend....
"Fly the Skull and Crossbones"
Me, I just like flying aeroplanes and I have been undercut before in other parts of the world. One accepts it or one gets out. Be realistic my friend....
"Fly the Skull and Crossbones"
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After every third post in relation to anything to do with Jetstar or Jetstar International Rostovs post on the previous page should be inserted than maybe just maybe YOU WILL UNDERSTAND HOW TO STOP SHOOTING YOURSELVES IN THE FOOT. Not all of us are like The Pirate at the moment.
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'Join in debate by all means but dont give anything away. The only way to win is play the cards very close to your chest........ But what I can tell everyone ('cause I am so happy) is that I am starting my A330 course in Dec'
Come on guys, wind up alert.
Come on guys, wind up alert.
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Pirate
When you finally spot that first curly black hair growing around that sack of yours, you will realise that all you are doing is cutting your own nuts off.
Until then mate go fly your skull and crossbones and leave aviation to the pros.
When you finally spot that first curly black hair growing around that sack of yours, you will realise that all you are doing is cutting your own nuts off.
Until then mate go fly your skull and crossbones and leave aviation to the pros.
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You are very quick to assume that I am a QF pilot. Last time I checked I could have sworn that the airplane my butt was strapped to had an orange streak to it.
So do us a favour Pirate and remember that a PROFESSIONAL in any occupation does not actively seek to undermine the pay and conditions of his/her chosen profession.
You do it and then proudly boast about it while wearing a pirates costume.
What are you, stupid?
So do us a favour Pirate and remember that a PROFESSIONAL in any occupation does not actively seek to undermine the pay and conditions of his/her chosen profession.
You do it and then proudly boast about it while wearing a pirates costume.
What are you, stupid?
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Right
The thought process at Jetstar was "OK. We're starting a new Long-haul carrier. The board hasn't approved any A/C yet and nothing is official. What should we do first? I know, get that guy 'anus pirate' or 'the pirate' or whatever his name is a start date- ASAP. After all the course takes 5 WHOLE DAYS! We've got to get started NOW!!!!!!"
Please, I know BS when I see it.
The thought process at Jetstar was "OK. We're starting a new Long-haul carrier. The board hasn't approved any A/C yet and nothing is official. What should we do first? I know, get that guy 'anus pirate' or 'the pirate' or whatever his name is a start date- ASAP. After all the course takes 5 WHOLE DAYS! We've got to get started NOW!!!!!!"
Please, I know BS when I see it.
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"you have the balls to take our jobs and make fun of it..."
There in lies the problem
Until you arrogant pr*cks realise that they are not YOUR jobs, and that everyone is entitled to try and work, then you have no chance of beating the management at this game.
There in lies the problem
Until you arrogant pr*cks realise that they are not YOUR jobs, and that everyone is entitled to try and work, then you have no chance of beating the management at this game.
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Actually,
When I turn to work, and do the job and then get paid for it, that is MY job.
When someone comes along, via the back door, and wispers to the boss he'll do the same for about 1/2, well heck, he IS taking my job.
What is so difficult to understand about that?
When I turn to work, and do the job and then get paid for it, that is MY job.
When someone comes along, via the back door, and wispers to the boss he'll do the same for about 1/2, well heck, he IS taking my job.
What is so difficult to understand about that?
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If you are still employed by the same employer and continue to turn up to work as requested, then i would suggest that you still have your job and nobody has taken it. All that has happened is that someone who hasn't been as fortunate as you has found a way to support his family as well.
Yeah right on Vorsh$t. How about the support shown to the blokes in the west who are trying to support families. What was the deal you organised for them???? That's right, a pay cut.
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Until you arrogant pr*cks realise that they are not YOUR jobs, and that everyone is entitled to try and work, then you have no chance of beating the management at this game.
That is what they were led to believe was the case on their successful appointment to their position.
F/O's join, expecting to be promoted to Captain, if they can perform satisfactorily and keep their noses clean - don't they?
D.E. Captains join, expecting - or being told - that THEIR position is one they can expect to hold, if they do likewise - don't they?
Personally I don't see any groups of pilots actively "swimming around" looking to steal other pilots' jobs.
But to keep the incumbents on their toes, management like to give the impression that this IS the case.
And to put the cat amongst the pigeons, Dixon (and Oldmeadow) now try to set in place a scenario where pilots look as though they're ready, willing, and able to shaft their peers.
Those (pilots) with a modicum of foresight and sensibility will realise that by shafting their co-workers today, they are setting themselves up to be royally ramrodded tomorrow, using the same technique(s).
It's time to say "Enough is enough" - to put the "I, me, mine" aside, and realise that ALL of your tomorrows lie in the decisions you will make in the next few days.
Look at the history of Australian airlines - see where they went, and where they are, and WHY things are as they are.
Respect each other for what the other has achieved, and for what YOU hope to yourself.
"Ask not what your fellow pilot can do for you, but what you can do for him, because the wheel continues to turn."
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What a load of Cr@p.
It's business you idiots. Nobody owes you a living. If they (management) can find someone to do the same work as you for less money aren't they etitled to employ them.
What all you guys seem to want is for everyone else to give up their dream so you can enjoy yours.
If you guys showed some backbone and went on strike (or at lease tried to flex some union muscle) in support of all the GA/second tier airline guys, to help improve their conditions, then i would definitely have some respect, and it would change my opinion entirely.
But as long as you are sitting on your fat wallets, doing f all for the amount of money you get paid, and expecting the poor sods below you to fall on their sword in order to protect your career, then I'm afraid that I couldn't give a damn if someone undercuts your precious position.
It's business you idiots. Nobody owes you a living. If they (management) can find someone to do the same work as you for less money aren't they etitled to employ them.
What all you guys seem to want is for everyone else to give up their dream so you can enjoy yours.
If you guys showed some backbone and went on strike (or at lease tried to flex some union muscle) in support of all the GA/second tier airline guys, to help improve their conditions, then i would definitely have some respect, and it would change my opinion entirely.
But as long as you are sitting on your fat wallets, doing f all for the amount of money you get paid, and expecting the poor sods below you to fall on their sword in order to protect your career, then I'm afraid that I couldn't give a damn if someone undercuts your precious position.
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But as long as you are sitting on your fat wallets, doing f all for the amount of money you get paid, and expecting the poor sods below you to fall on their sword in order to protect your career, then I'm afraid that I couldn't give a damn if someone undercuts your precious position.
Each of us has had to tread that same career path without expecting special treatment from those ahead of us.
Each of us ahead of you, realises that the path was hard going.
No-one is asking anyone to foresake their dreams, but only to realise that each of us aspires to achieve our realisations to the best of our ability.
Those abilities are not dispensed equally from one to another.
p.s You smell a lot like Pass-A-Frozo,
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I see
It's because of your ability.
Please refer to my previous post
"Until you arrogant pr*cks realise that they are not YOUR jobs, and that everyone is entitled to try and work, then you have no chance of beating the management at this game."
It's because of your ability.
Please refer to my previous post
"Until you arrogant pr*cks realise that they are not YOUR jobs, and that everyone is entitled to try and work, then you have no chance of beating the management at this game."
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Lets paint all Qantas aircraft in Greyhound Coach colours and take it from there. What more do our fellow industry drivers want? We can all have jobs for Australia's premier coach service. After all, they're just big people movers! Sounds great.
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Vorsicht,
And when we strike who will act as strike busters?
Nice attempt at trying to come across as balanced, but you are not.
You allude yourself about how horrible all the mainline pilots are so you can sleep at night.
If you are doing an A330 course in dec, you are taking someone elses job and that makes you a scab.
And when we strike who will act as strike busters?
Nice attempt at trying to come across as balanced, but you are not.
You allude yourself about how horrible all the mainline pilots are so you can sleep at night.
If you are doing an A330 course in dec, you are taking someone elses job and that makes you a scab.
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Sonny, If our company gets larger aircraft and offers the flying of those aircraft to us we are not taking your jobs and therefore not scabs it is your company that is taking your jobs. the sooner you realise that the better for the whole industry.
Having said that the only question is than what is a realistic wage, obvious answer is x amount more(now you may find this hard to believe but management is driving this we will only get a look at it in order to vote if it acceptable or not) that is of course if there is in fact a proposal(this is a rumour network after all). Attitudes displayed by our peers have an influence on this and at the moment the only attitudes I hear from you guys drive that x amount down not up.
Having said that the only question is than what is a realistic wage, obvious answer is x amount more(now you may find this hard to believe but management is driving this we will only get a look at it in order to vote if it acceptable or not) that is of course if there is in fact a proposal(this is a rumour network after all). Attitudes displayed by our peers have an influence on this and at the moment the only attitudes I hear from you guys drive that x amount down not up.