Skywest New Logo - what do you think!?
If a locally run airline competing against the White Rat is going to work anywhere, it's gotta be WA!
Those Sandgropers are a damn parochial bunch - they don't like us much "over east"!
TL (stands back and waits for missiles inbound)
Those Sandgropers are a damn parochial bunch - they don't like us much "over east"!
TL (stands back and waits for missiles inbound)
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Interesting Colour Scheme
I think the colour scheme is a reasonably good attempt to find a timeless image. It really depends on whether you want to keep an image in mind that is easily recalled e.g. like Lufthansa's Tail Logo - that would be a little difficult with this arrangement, it being somewhat complex.
I too tend to agree, the "Skywest" signage needs to be bolder as the windows do seem to distort the signage's otherwise nice lines.
Anyway, a nice change.
I too tend to agree, the "Skywest" signage needs to be bolder as the windows do seem to distort the signage's otherwise nice lines.
Anyway, a nice change.
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Great aircraft. Great Logo.
What was that about clear Western Australian skies???
Looks like NZ in the background to me!
What was that about clear Western Australian skies???
Looks like NZ in the background to me!
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Aha!
So *that* was the sexy bird that flew by my place the other day.... was wondering whose it was.....
Now I see the logo detail, it makes sense. That's the one thing - I am virtually under the flight path and couldn't make it out - though I like the idea. Shade of blue is nice too. Different from the Ansett and NJ blues. Good point about the lettering - looks a bit broken up but otherwise nice scheme.
Only gripe I have is some yellow would have been nice. Probably just AN-nostalgia kicking in
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Now I see the logo detail, it makes sense. That's the one thing - I am virtually under the flight path and couldn't make it out - though I like the idea. Shade of blue is nice too. Different from the Ansett and NJ blues. Good point about the lettering - looks a bit broken up but otherwise nice scheme.
Only gripe I have is some yellow would have been nice. Probably just AN-nostalgia kicking in
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Cruze, if you are trying to get a bit I'll have a nibble...
I'm yet to understand why you think FNY is Alliance's aircraft? Cross-hired? I think not. Might want to get that right...
"not a clever idea to rip into the market of the company that provides a large part of your essential services.............and they are not happy with the efforts of XR." - what large part of essential service? except for FF, their is nothing QF does for XR, and as for QF not being happy about it? Where do you get that from...?
As for hotel schedules, I don't believe airlines have ever designed their schedule around what the check-in and out times are at the Sheraton, or any other hotel for that matter, the red eye being one for starters - you might want to pick up a schedule and have a read of one some day...
And people can't start a jet operation and need experience, has some merit but where do you think Impulse, and NJ's came from? or JetBlue in the States from nowhere to absolute scores or A320's...
Broome only became a monopoly when An went. 2 airlines flew in before then and I'm sure they can in the future.
7 days a week? Better service I would feel would be the answer rather than "oh please"
Well we all know your stance, (and mine) only time will tell rather than ill informed bias or bitterness... good luck with that.
I'm yet to understand why you think FNY is Alliance's aircraft? Cross-hired? I think not. Might want to get that right...
"not a clever idea to rip into the market of the company that provides a large part of your essential services.............and they are not happy with the efforts of XR." - what large part of essential service? except for FF, their is nothing QF does for XR, and as for QF not being happy about it? Where do you get that from...?
As for hotel schedules, I don't believe airlines have ever designed their schedule around what the check-in and out times are at the Sheraton, or any other hotel for that matter, the red eye being one for starters - you might want to pick up a schedule and have a read of one some day...
And people can't start a jet operation and need experience, has some merit but where do you think Impulse, and NJ's came from? or JetBlue in the States from nowhere to absolute scores or A320's...
Broome only became a monopoly when An went. 2 airlines flew in before then and I'm sure they can in the future.
7 days a week? Better service I would feel would be the answer rather than "oh please"
Well we all know your stance, (and mine) only time will tell rather than ill informed bias or bitterness... good luck with that.
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To quote a famous detective " just the facts Maam "
Jetpipe, 146 is not the only A/C that flies into BRM with a red tail, both the 146 and 73 have J class does the F100 ? Oh, and btw, no 146 in the Q/Link fleet has 71 seats, the configs are : 6/58, 8/68, 8/79.
I tend to agree with cruze re. the operating costs of the F100 V the 146, especially taking into account the extremely low lease costs of some of the old fruit bats, although this is speculation as none of us know exactly what these costs are, it's a fair bet though.
Dr.Phil, ADL-KGI in a Saab, does it even have that range ( 900nm ) ?? it would be fun in winter with a GS of around 150kts
Stickshaker, lets compare apples with watermelons, Impulse went broke inside 6 months and got taken over by QF, Uncle wazza got kissed on the old fella by a fairy and woke up in bed with Australian Airlines, then by default, QF.
Yes, 2 airlines did fly into BRM, one made money, the other did'nt, the " other " one had alot more cash than Skywest and a little thing called " on carriage " , not eveyone who goes to BRM originates in Perth. I have a feeling if you phone a QF friendly travel agent over east, they are not going to book you Ml-PH with QF, then PH-BRM with skywest.
I know a few pilots with Skywest and wish them all the best................no point in blowing sunshine up their backsides though.
Jetpipe, 146 is not the only A/C that flies into BRM with a red tail, both the 146 and 73 have J class does the F100 ? Oh, and btw, no 146 in the Q/Link fleet has 71 seats, the configs are : 6/58, 8/68, 8/79.
I tend to agree with cruze re. the operating costs of the F100 V the 146, especially taking into account the extremely low lease costs of some of the old fruit bats, although this is speculation as none of us know exactly what these costs are, it's a fair bet though.
Dr.Phil, ADL-KGI in a Saab, does it even have that range ( 900nm ) ?? it would be fun in winter with a GS of around 150kts
Stickshaker, lets compare apples with watermelons, Impulse went broke inside 6 months and got taken over by QF, Uncle wazza got kissed on the old fella by a fairy and woke up in bed with Australian Airlines, then by default, QF.
Yes, 2 airlines did fly into BRM, one made money, the other did'nt, the " other " one had alot more cash than Skywest and a little thing called " on carriage " , not eveyone who goes to BRM originates in Perth. I have a feeling if you phone a QF friendly travel agent over east, they are not going to book you Ml-PH with QF, then PH-BRM with skywest.
I know a few pilots with Skywest and wish them all the best................no point in blowing sunshine up their backsides though.
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As for the tail, I think it looks more like a snow flake than the sun.
And I feel snow really doesnt do WA justice.
As for pax flying to BME ex MEL, I do beleive QF still fly a 738 DCT MEL-BME-MEL.
And I feel snow really doesnt do WA justice.
As for pax flying to BME ex MEL, I do beleive QF still fly a 738 DCT MEL-BME-MEL.
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Yeh, ok, that was just an example but I don't think the ML-BRM flight is 2 or 3 times daily which you can do with the connections.
Oh, and the snowflake has been more applicable than sun lately
Oh, and the snowflake has been more applicable than sun lately
Cruze Power,
why does the f100 arrive in broome 6 hours before the hotel's open? my reliable source informs me that the aircraft meets a certain helicopter carrier in broome which works in well with the planned departure time bme at 1430 or so, so they have done their homework on this one, loads are good and there is heaps of freight going on this one too. If you are so informed about the goings on at xr you would have heard that they have posted a loss for the last financial year, but look like returning to profitability next year. I think we should give them some credit here, instead of being all doom and gloom, i don't think you know half as much as you claim...interesting article here in the west from yesterday...
Skywest positive despite $2m loss
By Geoffrey Thomas and John Phaceas
SKYWEST Airlines has reported an operating loss of $2.2 million for 2002-03, reflecting the tough conditions still facing Australia's regional airline industry.
But Skywest said it was confident of at least hitting its $2.4 million profit target this year, after one-off gains from financial restructuring helped it squeak back into the black.
Skywest yesterday booked a headline net profit of $546,000 for 2002-03 on revenue of $47.5 million and net operating cash flow of $2.8 million.
The result compared to a $1.37 million loss the previous year, but was boosted by a $3.7 million one-off gain on the settlement of leasing liabilities attached to its fleet of five Fokker F50 aircraft, and a $900,000 Government grant.
Skywest was able to restructure its leasing arrangements for its fleet, previously valued at $13.1 million, with the Commonwealth Bank and the Ansett administrators.
The airline is now buying the aircraft for $9.4 million, through a $6.5 million loan from CBA, a $1.3 million loan from the Ansett administrators and a cash payment of $1.6 million.
Managing director Scott Henderson said the restructure had created a strong platform for the future, noting Skywest was virtually debt free and had been profitable since the June quarter when it booked an operating surplus of $128,000.
"We have been trading profitably for six months and expect to at least meet our forecast net profit of $2.4 million in the current financial year," he said.
"The restructure of our debt and the financing of the fleet were vital to the future of this business. We are now in a position where our balance sheet is strong, operational performance has improved significantly and our profit profile is robust."
Mr Henderson said the airline was already beating its monthly targets and stood a good chance of beating its full year targets.
It was also starting to expand its business again after a period of consolidation.
Earlier this month, Skywest launched a Perth-Broome service, using a Fokker 100 jet in direct competition with its alliance partner Qantas.
Despite industry doubts about the move, especially with Virgin Blue indicating its interest in offering a similar service, Mr Henderson said it had been a big success so far.
"Usually, when you start a service like this it takes time to ramp it up, but we've been carrying 80 per cent load factors," he said. "I think it's a recognition that we are a West Australian brand and that people are supporting us."
why does the f100 arrive in broome 6 hours before the hotel's open? my reliable source informs me that the aircraft meets a certain helicopter carrier in broome which works in well with the planned departure time bme at 1430 or so, so they have done their homework on this one, loads are good and there is heaps of freight going on this one too. If you are so informed about the goings on at xr you would have heard that they have posted a loss for the last financial year, but look like returning to profitability next year. I think we should give them some credit here, instead of being all doom and gloom, i don't think you know half as much as you claim...interesting article here in the west from yesterday...
Skywest positive despite $2m loss
By Geoffrey Thomas and John Phaceas
SKYWEST Airlines has reported an operating loss of $2.2 million for 2002-03, reflecting the tough conditions still facing Australia's regional airline industry.
But Skywest said it was confident of at least hitting its $2.4 million profit target this year, after one-off gains from financial restructuring helped it squeak back into the black.
Skywest yesterday booked a headline net profit of $546,000 for 2002-03 on revenue of $47.5 million and net operating cash flow of $2.8 million.
The result compared to a $1.37 million loss the previous year, but was boosted by a $3.7 million one-off gain on the settlement of leasing liabilities attached to its fleet of five Fokker F50 aircraft, and a $900,000 Government grant.
Skywest was able to restructure its leasing arrangements for its fleet, previously valued at $13.1 million, with the Commonwealth Bank and the Ansett administrators.
The airline is now buying the aircraft for $9.4 million, through a $6.5 million loan from CBA, a $1.3 million loan from the Ansett administrators and a cash payment of $1.6 million.
Managing director Scott Henderson said the restructure had created a strong platform for the future, noting Skywest was virtually debt free and had been profitable since the June quarter when it booked an operating surplus of $128,000.
"We have been trading profitably for six months and expect to at least meet our forecast net profit of $2.4 million in the current financial year," he said.
"The restructure of our debt and the financing of the fleet were vital to the future of this business. We are now in a position where our balance sheet is strong, operational performance has improved significantly and our profit profile is robust."
Mr Henderson said the airline was already beating its monthly targets and stood a good chance of beating its full year targets.
It was also starting to expand its business again after a period of consolidation.
Earlier this month, Skywest launched a Perth-Broome service, using a Fokker 100 jet in direct competition with its alliance partner Qantas.
Despite industry doubts about the move, especially with Virgin Blue indicating its interest in offering a similar service, Mr Henderson said it had been a big success so far.
"Usually, when you start a service like this it takes time to ramp it up, but we've been carrying 80 per cent load factors," he said. "I think it's a recognition that we are a West Australian brand and that people are supporting us."
SH is in Europe at the mo, sourcing an additional F100, this a/c to be used on the Karratha route commencing January, XR will also know this month if they have won the Learmonth/Cocos/Christmas contract off NJS.
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i guess the one thing everybody forgets is that even though WA is percieved to be full of anal retentive pax who never travel anywhere the rality is quite different. Western Australians will not travel in a product that they dont know. Dash 8's maybe with QF but SAAB's SWORD ME. Why does everybody go on about the bloody SAAB. Imagine having a load of 35 pax in Laverton or further north putting up with a SAAB in January all the way to Perth, I guess those of you who think Dubbo or Coff's is a long way should really get a atlas out.
Now as for Skywest back before the war there was this small operation called MMA (Ansett WA) that flew little jet aeroplanes all over the state, yes they were crewed by pilots that looked at life differently than their eastern states cousins but jeeze they made some money. if Skywest get a few more F100's and show some fight then once again WA can have a real airline.
And before any of you get the barb out please just remove Argyle,Newman,Yandi,Paraburdoo, northwestshelf, Burrup,Dampier,Wheatbelt, goldfields, 2FTS, Fishing industry, Australia 2, Rally Australia and the best beaches from your Eastern State budgets and lets us have a lowwing, rear engined jet fleet.
Now as for Skywest back before the war there was this small operation called MMA (Ansett WA) that flew little jet aeroplanes all over the state, yes they were crewed by pilots that looked at life differently than their eastern states cousins but jeeze they made some money. if Skywest get a few more F100's and show some fight then once again WA can have a real airline.
And before any of you get the barb out please just remove Argyle,Newman,Yandi,Paraburdoo, northwestshelf, Burrup,Dampier,Wheatbelt, goldfields, 2FTS, Fishing industry, Australia 2, Rally Australia and the best beaches from your Eastern State budgets and lets us have a lowwing, rear engined jet fleet.
Tightcannon,
They'll be low-winged, orright, but they'll have the donks under the wings an' Skywest won't be flyin' em either!
PS: Yandi doesn't exist anymore: it's got a ditch going thru the middle of it.
They'll be low-winged, orright, but they'll have the donks under the wings an' Skywest won't be flyin' em either!
PS: Yandi doesn't exist anymore: it's got a ditch going thru the middle of it.