Skywest New Logo - what do you think!?
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Hey topend3,
Longtime no hear.
anyway, excuse my ignorance, but are Skywest returning to KTA next year?
They only just pulled out of there. Disbanded there KTA offices and put a handful of Skystar staff out of the job.
Longtime no hear.
anyway, excuse my ignorance, but are Skywest returning to KTA next year?
They only just pulled out of there. Disbanded there KTA offices and put a handful of Skystar staff out of the job.
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Baw ha ha! you're a funny guy cruze! 
You're obviously a 146 pilot and concerned about your future. The F100 parked next to a 146 generates a lot of talk and it ain't about the 146. But hey you think it's all crap. Now why would people want to travel on an aircraft which is bigger, faster and climbs higher when they can travel on the 146 and get there 20 mins later. 
You're obviously a 146 pilot and concerned about your future. The F100 parked next to a 146 generates a lot of talk and it ain't about the 146. But hey you think it's all crap. Now why would people want to travel on an aircraft which is bigger, faster and climbs higher when they can travel on the 146 and get there 20 mins later.
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Weren't we all reading rumours of Skywest going under over 12 months ago now?
They seem to be heading in a more profitable direction at the moment from all I've seen, heard and read. If they can make it through that then it surely looks rosier now compared to back then.
Talking about hotel check-in times and the like doesn't really negate the fact that the operation seems heading back to what it was pre 2001.
I'll get off my soap box now.
They seem to be heading in a more profitable direction at the moment from all I've seen, heard and read. If they can make it through that then it surely looks rosier now compared to back then.
Talking about hotel check-in times and the like doesn't really negate the fact that the operation seems heading back to what it was pre 2001.
I'll get off my soap box now.
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Having travelled both XR to YARG and QF to other places, I can honestly say as SLF that the service on XR was far superior - so what there were no movies, I'm happy to get just the service on any leg shorter than three hours......
nice new logo on the tail, and an upbeat optimistic air to the organisation - - well done, and keep it up!
nice new logo on the tail, and an upbeat optimistic air to the organisation - - well done, and keep it up!
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You know MU2 I am still waiting for you to tell me where I reported "everything little thing that was happening at Skywest". Can't can you, becuase I didn't and you know it!!!
I am not reporting anything because at the moment there is nothing positive to report ....perhaps soon?.
GT
I am not reporting anything because at the moment there is nothing positive to report ....perhaps soon?.
GT
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Go North,
Geez, you're a tad touchy about this aren't you?
Perhaps you could explain the "bigger" bit: do you mean about the bigger 146 cabin, the bigger (and softer) landing gear of the 146, and the bigger (higher) weights off the ground hot and high of the 146? Or was there something else "bigger" you know about that we don't?
Last pax I talked to couldn't give two hoots about faster and higher: they just want the right price and good service, and I can assure you that you don't have a monopoly on either of those.
Geez, you're a tad touchy about this aren't you?
Perhaps you could explain the "bigger" bit: do you mean about the bigger 146 cabin, the bigger (and softer) landing gear of the 146, and the bigger (higher) weights off the ground hot and high of the 146? Or was there something else "bigger" you know about that we don't?
Last pax I talked to couldn't give two hoots about faster and higher: they just want the right price and good service, and I can assure you that you don't have a monopoly on either of those.
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Nah not touchy just having a go at the knockers.
If the 146 is the way to go then why do NJS feel so threatened? Skywest is offering a service which Qantas/Qantaslink wont, can't or don't want to know about providing. So why knock em?
Bigger. The external size of the aircraft. First impressions last for pax. If you are prepared to tell me that the 146 is bigger than the F100 than you might want to get your eyes tested. Never heard of a pax wanting to travel on an aircraft because it had a bigger landing gear.
Pax not wanting to get there faster? Are you kidding me??? How about a reality check!
And for the record...I don't work for skywest.
Nah not touchy just having a go at the knockers.
If the 146 is the way to go then why do NJS feel so threatened? Skywest is offering a service which Qantas/Qantaslink wont, can't or don't want to know about providing. So why knock em?
Bigger. The external size of the aircraft. First impressions last for pax. If you are prepared to tell me that the 146 is bigger than the F100 than you might want to get your eyes tested. Never heard of a pax wanting to travel on an aircraft because it had a bigger landing gear.
Pax not wanting to get there faster? Are you kidding me??? How about a reality check!
And for the record...I don't work for skywest.
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Go North,
I'm not knocking anyone, just commenting on your previous post.
NJS threatened? NJS don't even fly to BME. IF they did, XR would be in serious trouble, I'd suspect.
As for size, I consider the size of the cabin to be the most important, not what it looks like on the outside. Check out the cabin dimensions of the 146 and the F100 and get back to me if you like.
As for the speed, it's the fares that count, not 20 minutes over 3 hours. And IF the fares were the same, how many pax would even bother to ask "how fast does this thing go?".
As for the gear, the only impression that a pax takes with them after the flight is the service, the PAs and the landing. That is why I made the comment about the landing gear.
I'm not knocking anyone, just commenting on your previous post.
NJS threatened? NJS don't even fly to BME. IF they did, XR would be in serious trouble, I'd suspect.
As for size, I consider the size of the cabin to be the most important, not what it looks like on the outside. Check out the cabin dimensions of the 146 and the F100 and get back to me if you like.
As for the speed, it's the fares that count, not 20 minutes over 3 hours. And IF the fares were the same, how many pax would even bother to ask "how fast does this thing go?".
As for the gear, the only impression that a pax takes with them after the flight is the service, the PAs and the landing. That is why I made the comment about the landing gear.
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Wake up Sh? Wake up cruz!
Do you really know the true loads and yields of XR? Do you... no, really, do you...? Only the company will - not you.
I've been watching my post with interest, be it deviate from the origional intent, but what comes out of it is that you are a knocker, and always will be no matter what they do. Good on them for giving it a go and from all accounts doing a good job. Posts like Dr. Phil and Gonnadothat are refreshing. Inteligent posts like ".....obviously...." and the rest of your spray don't even warrant notice by those above you. Lets just leave it and put it down to a well respected organisation doing it's best, coming from oblivion, to starting their first RPT service in thier own jet and doing it well. Good on them no mattter which trench you sit in. Time will tell, as always, but I wish them all the best! It's good for all in this industry and that's all that needs to be said on the matter.
By the way, yes the new look looks great!
Cheers F F!!!
Do you really know the true loads and yields of XR? Do you... no, really, do you...? Only the company will - not you.
I've been watching my post with interest, be it deviate from the origional intent, but what comes out of it is that you are a knocker, and always will be no matter what they do. Good on them for giving it a go and from all accounts doing a good job. Posts like Dr. Phil and Gonnadothat are refreshing. Inteligent posts like ".....obviously...." and the rest of your spray don't even warrant notice by those above you. Lets just leave it and put it down to a well respected organisation doing it's best, coming from oblivion, to starting their first RPT service in thier own jet and doing it well. Good on them no mattter which trench you sit in. Time will tell, as always, but I wish them all the best! It's good for all in this industry and that's all that needs to be said on the matter.
By the way, yes the new look looks great!
Cheers F F!!!
couldn't agree more with you stick pusher, cruze power's whinings and bleatings about XR become boring after a while and not worth responding to as he obviously doesn't know half as much as he makes out.
i too say "good on you" to Skywest for giving it a go with the F100, and i think the only people who believe they CAN do it are the people at Skywest. SH is a very intelligent man with a fantastic background in airlines with UNITED especially. Do you think with his track record he would be running this service at fares that could not cover the costs of the operation? I don't...it all comes down to aircraft type, and the F100 is a sensationally economic type to operate, SH isn't going to run the company into the ground, sure they are probably operating on thin margin's but who isn't? that's the nature of the game...
the other dick who annoys me is that MU2 prat, Geoffrey you are right, he doesn't know what he's on about, i like reading your articles.
interestingly, hydraulic problems on the F100 yesterday forced them to charter a 146, NJT, on the GYL run, FNY back in service today i believe...
i too say "good on you" to Skywest for giving it a go with the F100, and i think the only people who believe they CAN do it are the people at Skywest. SH is a very intelligent man with a fantastic background in airlines with UNITED especially. Do you think with his track record he would be running this service at fares that could not cover the costs of the operation? I don't...it all comes down to aircraft type, and the F100 is a sensationally economic type to operate, SH isn't going to run the company into the ground, sure they are probably operating on thin margin's but who isn't? that's the nature of the game...
the other dick who annoys me is that MU2 prat, Geoffrey you are right, he doesn't know what he's on about, i like reading your articles.
interestingly, hydraulic problems on the F100 yesterday forced them to charter a 146, NJT, on the GYL run, FNY back in service today i believe...
Ah Ha! A real aeroplane does the job when the light twin can't hack the pace!
Very smart thinking by XR, actually, having 3 "spare" jets "down the road", just waiting to be chartered for a rescue. Arh so what if it's a cross-charter once in a while?!
Very smart thinking by XR, actually, having 3 "spare" jets "down the road", just waiting to be chartered for a rescue. Arh so what if it's a cross-charter once in a while?!
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Happens to plenty of others at Perth NJ's Skippers to name a few. Nature of the beast and a bit of murphy's law. Nice bit of reporting again GT in the paper this week. Your bias never ceases to amaze me , funny how you never report on the scores of other breakdowns, incidents and crosshires on the airfield, negative pickings again and again, look forward to you doing some real journalism, not sensationalism. Don't you ever get tired of knocking a company that has come from oblivion to getting their first jet and now doing RPT with it? Oh sorry that would be postive reporting and against your obvious natural bias and the interest of your devout readers, look forward to your next aviation award...
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Good luck to Skywest. So far SH has done nothing but do what appears to be best for the company.
Hats off to him and best of luck with the new operations.
Seems like he had rid the company of all its dead wood, and is moving it into the future. Very much against the "W"ait "A"while nature the company grew up in.
Hats off to him and best of luck with the new operations.
Seems like he had rid the company of all its dead wood, and is moving it into the future. Very much against the "W"ait "A"while nature the company grew up in.
a new rumour i heard this week - the board has approved the acquisition of the F100 NO. 2, and they may use it on the Perth-Geraldton run, Skippers will be starting Bras services on this route by years end...
soon XR will know if they have won the PER-LEA-COCOS-XMAS run
soon XR will know if they have won the PER-LEA-COCOS-XMAS run