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The GP 19th September 2019 14:11

CTC in April
 
I'm also on the April start at ctc.

Did anyone else have to feign excitement when told about the April start date when really they were disappointed because they were hoping for Jan, or was that just me!?

Anyway, well done to all. Let me know if the WhatsApp gets set up.

mike current 19th September 2019 15:24


Originally Posted by The GP (Post 10573703)
Did anyone else have to feign excitement

A useful skill for a Nats career :)

Serravelle 19th September 2019 18:39

Does anybody know if there is still a coach service from Bournemouth to CTC and who runs it if so?
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Ps. Congratulations to everyone who has received their start date, also 27th April :)

Topcat47 20th September 2019 09:28


Originally Posted by Samwise1 (Post 10573644)
Hello, I'm on the 27th Jan course at CTC. WhatsApp sounds like a great idea.
Also anyone up for a house share?

Struggling to PM you I think because of the way this forum works with new users.

Usernames Quilt, tf412 and myself have started a group if you can PM one of us your number we'll add you in.
You may have to delete all the other messages in your inbox to do this as I believe the system only allows 1 active message for new users (if anyone one knows different feel free to enlighten!)

Tomb59 20th September 2019 09:53

Hey

I’ve also been allocated 27th January at CTC 😃

Erik1 23rd September 2019 16:26

Hi everyone

Same thing here - 27th January at CTC.

Quilt, I've messaged you with my phone number for the WhatsApp group. If you could add me in, that would be great

Thanks

P.S. Congratulations to everyone who passed and got assigned to a course

Quilt 23rd September 2019 20:20


Originally Posted by Erik1 (Post 10577426)
Hi everyone

Same thing here - 27th January at CTC.

Quilt, I've messaged you with my phone number for the WhatsApp group. If you could add me in, that would be great

Thanks

P.S. Congratulations to everyone who passed and got assigned to a course

Done - congratulations to you too!

GandalfGaming2144 25th September 2019 16:51

Has anyone got any details when they will reopen the tests

Teammark_rhys 27th September 2019 09:31

Hi I got my call from NATS earlier this week. I’m starting at CTC jan 27th.

ng254 27th September 2019 10:18

Is anyone going to the November assessment days? I haven't heard anything from NATS since the invite and I'm a bit worried that they're not going ahead

Quilt 27th September 2019 10:42


Originally Posted by Teammark_rhys (Post 10580674)
Hi I got my call from NATS earlier this week. I’m starting at CTC jan 27th.

Great! Clear your inbox and I'll send you a PM with the whatsapp details.


Originally Posted by ng254 (Post 10580704)
Is anyone going to the November assessment days? I haven't heard anything from NATS since the invite and I'm a bit worried that they're not going ahead

Sounds about right - I wouldn't worry.

Teammark_rhys 27th September 2019 10:43

Wilco! Inbox is all clear now.

Martmart 27th September 2019 15:20


Originally Posted by ng254 (Post 10580704)
Is anyone going to the November assessment days? I haven't heard anything from NATS since the invite and I'm a bit worried that they're not going ahead

When did you pass stage 2 NG? I am just trying to workout a rough idea when I might be called.

BernaDon 27th September 2019 17:08


Originally Posted by The GP (Post 10573703)
I'm also on the April start at ctc.

Did anyone else have to feign excitement when told about the April start date when really they were disappointed because they were hoping for Jan, or was that just me!?

Anyway, well done to all. Let me know if the WhatsApp gets set up.

Haha yes I also had to feign excitement! Didn't help that I'd just woken up so must've sounded especially grumpy... Still over the moon to be starting the course. Also same with whatsapp group for April, let me know :)

tf412 30th September 2019 13:46

I think technically there's no upper age limit (in the UK at least) due to age discrimination laws. As far as I understand things, some (many?) ATCOs retire when they are in their late 50s (but I could be wrong about this), and you also need to factor in that it could be 2-3 years before you are validated. So, I'd say work out how many years that leaves you in between and decide if you think it's worth the investment in terms of time and money (because during the training years you have to get by on a very low salary). I'm in my late 30s... I'm not sure if that put me at the "older end of the age range" or not, as I know some trainees are older than me, but at the same time I'd never have been accepted by many ANSPs, such as Eurocontrol.

GandalfGaming2144 30th September 2019 14:36

anyone got news on when NATS will re-open there recruitement tests?

scottishstevie 30th September 2019 14:42

Currently at CTC and there are a few older folk there. I know of a couple of guys who will be 40 in the next year and there was until recently a guy on one of the courses who was at the upper end of his 40s and possibly 50 I’m not 100% sure on his exact age. He was definitely up there though. Hope this helps

tf412 30th September 2019 14:57


Originally Posted by GandalfGaming2144 (Post 10583108)
anyone got news on when NATS will re-open there recruitement tests?

I think you'll find no-one on here will have any inside knowledge on this. But I think you can register your interest and be notified when applications open up again. I can't imagine it will be any time soon though (i.e. next 6-12 months), as there are people who have already got through S2 awaiting their S3, and people still waiting to be assigned to courses next summer.

Mishelche 30th September 2019 15:25


Originally Posted by tf412 (Post 10583065)
I think technically there's no upper age limit (in the UK at least) due to age discrimination laws. As far as I understand things, some (many?) ATCOs retire when they are in their late 50s (but I could be wrong about this), and you also need to factor in that it could be 2-3 years before you are validated. So, I'd say work out how many years that leaves you in between and decide if you think it's worth the investment in terms of time and money (because during the training years you have to get by on a very low salary). I'm in my late 30s... I'm not sure if that put me at the "older end of the age range" or not, as I know some trainees are older than me, but at the same time I'd never have been accepted by many ANSPs, such as Eurocontrol.

As far as I know ATCOs retire when they become 60, at least this is for the men, not sure about the women though.

The Fat Controller 30th September 2019 17:38


Originally Posted by Mishelche (Post 10583152)
As far as I know ATCOs retire when they become 60, at least this is for the men, not sure about the women though.

There is no compulsory retirement age in the UK and NATS cannot and do not force anyone of either sex out due to their age.

If you are competent you can stay as long as you want.

However, most cut and run with their large pension pots as soon as financially viable, usually between 55 and 60.

GandalfGaming2144 30th September 2019 19:07

Thx for replying anyways

AlexHrinca 3rd October 2019 10:28

Hello
 
I’m due to take the Stage 3 on the 5th of November. Just received an email with a change of location. Looks like we’ll take stage 3 at a hotel next door to NATS centre.
Anyone else on the same date?
(nervous) Cheers and see you there!

Quilt 9th October 2019 09:35

Jack Francis clear your PMs (sent items count against your quota) and I’ll send you the WhatsApp info.

AlexHrinca 9th October 2019 11:08

Hi mate
Passed my stage 2 in May, if I remember it right. Looks like it takes about six months, at least, until the next stage.
All the best!

AlexHrinca 9th October 2019 11:11

Cool. Will do now.

Jack Francis 13th October 2019 13:54

Cleared my inbox!

doit173 14th October 2019 09:14


Originally Posted by tf412 (Post 10583065)
I think technically there's no upper age limit (in the UK at least) due to age discrimination laws. As far as I understand things, some (many?) ATCOs retire when they are in their late 50s (but I could be wrong about this), and you also need to factor in that it could be 2-3 years before you are validated. So, I'd say work out how many years that leaves you in between and decide if you think it's worth the investment in terms of time and money (because during the training years you have to get by on a very low salary). I'm in my late 30s... I'm not sure if that put me at the "older end of the age range" or not, as I know some trainees are older than me, but at the same time I'd never have been accepted by many ANSPs, such as Eurocontrol.

The typical age (and earliest) for retirement at the moment is 55. But this is because they have the old final salary pension and have pots worth millions. You (and I) won't have when we reach 55, so it won't be the norm for long.

Trevor Hannant 23rd October 2019 21:29


Originally Posted by scottishstevie (Post 10583117)
Currently at CTC and there are a few older folk there. I know of a couple of guys who will be 40 in the next year and there was until recently a guy on one of the courses who was at the upper end of his 40s and possibly 50 I’m not 100% sure on his exact age. He was definitely up there though. Hope this helps

Might be me (47)... ;)

GandalfGaming2144 6th November 2019 17:37

is anyone signing up for nats now as they are re open to candidates

Quilt 6th November 2019 18:13


Originally Posted by GandalfGaming2144 (Post 10612406)
is anyone signing up for nats now as they are re open to candidates

Are you sure?

Applications are still showing as closed for me.

FlightStrip 6th November 2019 18:20

They just opened Early Career opportunities for students and graduates, internships and apprenticeships.

AppleUK 6th November 2019 21:46

Hi all, just a quick question - How long does the ATC recruitment process usually take? I'm currently in my second year of Uni and was just wondering if there's any point in applying if applications open up in the next few months or whether I should just wait until I'm in my final year? Thanks for the help:)

Gingers Have Souls 7th November 2019 13:48


Originally Posted by AppleUK (Post 10612639)
Hi all, just a quick question - How long does the ATC recruitment process usually take? I'm currently in my second year of Uni and was just wondering if there's any point in applying if applications open up in the next few months or whether I should just wait until I'm in my final year? Thanks for the help:)

When I applied I thought it would around 12 months or so before an outcome, as per other users on here. However, from first applying to job offer this year was around 5 months max!

So, I guess there is no real answer. However, my start date is exactly 1 year after I applied if that’s any help.

AppleUK 7th November 2019 14:04

Thanks for the reply! :ok:

BARRY_SCOTT 7th November 2019 14:43

If you get offered a job you can tell them of your circumstances to defer starting at the college. Might be best to apply in your last year though.

GandalfGaming2144 7th November 2019 17:32

I'm a first year student and am going to apply now because its better now then later when im in my degree

AppleUK 7th November 2019 17:48

Hi GandalfGaming2144 I know that most other companies (in other sectors) do have yearly graduate schemes available so would of course apply for 2021 schemes (year of graduation). But since ATC schemes are far less abundant I thought I should just apply for any schemes which arise over the next few months.

GandalfGaming2144 7th November 2019 21:31

I would apply for ATC because you have a life job and well paid money plus its not like the sector will lose jobs in the next 40 years

tf412 7th November 2019 21:51


Originally Posted by GandalfGaming2144 (Post 10613495)
I would apply for ATC because you have a life job and well paid money plus its not like the sector will lose jobs in the next 40 years

I’m a bit confused from your earlier messages about whether you plan to apply to be a trainee air traffic controller, or to the early career scheme (which I don’t think has anything directly to do with becoming an ATCO).

In any case, it’s best to apply for a job you have at least a little bit of passion for. No point being stuck in a job you don’t enjoy just for the money.

And who knows what the future holds for ATC, esp. over the course of 40 years?! In many ways, it’s the perfect industry for AI to take over many jobs. Satellite surveillance over the Atlantic is currently being trialled, traditional towers are being replaced with digital ones. All sorts of changes going on...

GandalfGaming2144 8th November 2019 13:13

i'm not doing it for the money im just saying that if your doing a degree and your worried that ATC is risky because you may not be able to pay for bills or something like that then you don't need to be because the trainee air traffic controller if a good job to provide for yourself. plus i was on about the ATC


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