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GandalfGaming2144 20th April 2019 17:06

its online
 

Originally Posted by idloveit (Post 10451838)
Is anyone able to comment on the differences between the old Stage 2 and the new Stage 2?

I am taking my Stage 2 in the next couple of days - any advice would be invaluable.

Thank you!

From what I've heard its online where as before you would go to a centre I think and I'm guessing its similar to stage 1 now but don't take my word for it. If you can tell us what it was like after you have finished?

dFixxx3r 20th April 2019 21:59


Originally Posted by Bartek1 (Post 10449297)
Each test in stage 1 is timed and you have to do as many examples as you can. The more you do the harder they get (if you answer correctly that is). I did it last sunday and it took my about 2 hours to finish. For one of those tests you really need a mouse to be able to move around the screen quickly.

​​​​​​thnx. good info there.

so is there any resemblance between s1 and feast ? meaning if any of feast testing tasks is included in new S1/S2 ?

BernaDon 22nd April 2019 09:58

Hi there, I passed my stage 2 in March and have my stage 3 scheduled late May. I was just wondering about the schedule following the stage 3 interview (on the condition I pass of course!). When do the medical and start of training usually take place? I have a trip booked to Dubai for June and July and am wondering if I will have to reschedule.

Thanks!

tf412 22nd April 2019 13:05


Originally Posted by BernaDon (Post 10453060)
Hi there, I passed my stage 2 in March and have my stage 3 scheduled late May. I was just wondering about the schedule following the stage 3 interview (on the condition I pass of course!). When do the medical and start of training usually take place? I have a trip booked to Dubai for June and July and am wondering if I will have to reschedule.

Thanks!

You should be absolutely fine to go to Dubai. I’m at the same stage as you (stage 3 early May) and we were told during stage 2 that the next available spaces on training courses are Feb/Mar 2020 (although I’m hoping this might change). Also, there’s apparently a bit of a wait for the medical, and I believe they are currently booking medicals for Jul/Aug, but you could presumably request a date in August.

BernaDon 22nd April 2019 13:36


Originally Posted by tf412 (Post 10453185)


You should be absolutely fine to go to Dubai. I’m at the same stage as you (stage 3 early May) and we were told during stage 2 that the next available spaces on training courses are Feb/Mar 2020 (although I’m hoping this might change). Also, there’s apparently a bit of a wait for the medical, and I believe they are currently booking medicals for Jul/Aug, but you could presumably request a date in August.

That's great! Thanks for the info and good luck with your stage 3!

wpg83 24th April 2019 20:03

How long has it taken for people to get invited to the 1st stage of online tests in the "new" system?

Just wondered as last time I applied under the older system I seem to remember it was pretty instant, as if you just have to meet the pre-requisites. Been a few days now and my application just shows as "under review".

idloveit 25th April 2019 10:49

I've passed Stage 2 on Monday this week, still nothing regarding Stage 3 dates has come through to my email yet though. Can anyone comment on how long it took them?

MattPudzilla 25th April 2019 10:55


Originally Posted by idloveit (Post 10455397)
I've passed Stage 2 on Monday this week, still nothing regarding Stage 3 dates has come through to my email yet though. Can anyone comment on how long it took them?


We are all waiting on invite emails, I passed Stage 2 a couple of weeks ago. Most likely is that they are completing the old process applicants first before arranging the new process dates.


I may drop them an email tomorrow if nothing comes through by then

idloveit 25th April 2019 11:13


Originally Posted by MattPudzilla (Post 10455401)
We are all waiting on invite emails, I passed Stage 2 a couple of weeks ago. Most likely is that they are completing the old process applicants first before arranging the new process dates.


I may drop them an email tomorrow if nothing comes through by then

Oh really, thanks for your reply. Perhaps you're right re old process applicants. Hopefully not waiting much longer.

Seems like we will be one of the first groups to undertake the new Stage 3. From your understanding, do you know much more regarding S3 other than what the website informs us? (Retake S1 online tests, ATC Knowledge Test, Group Exercise & Interview)

Thanks

MaddDogg24 25th April 2019 11:46


Originally Posted by idloveit (Post 10455426)
Oh really, thanks for your reply. Perhaps you're right re old process applicants. Hopefully not waiting much longer.

Seems like we will be one of the first groups to undertake the new Stage 3. From your understanding, do you know much more regarding S3 other than what the website informs us? (Retake S1 online tests, ATC Knowledge Test, Group Exercise & Interview)

Thanks

I have my stage 3 on Monday and I was part of the older way of doing things. I believe I will be one of the last group to do so!

MattPudzilla 25th April 2019 16:31


Originally Posted by idloveit (Post 10455426)
Oh really, thanks for your reply. Perhaps you're right re old process applicants. Hopefully not waiting much longer.

Seems like we will be one of the first groups to undertake the new Stage 3. From your understanding, do you know much more regarding S3 other than what the website informs us? (Retake S1 online tests, ATC Knowledge Test, Group Exercise & Interview)

Thanks

I haven't got any new info. I know that a while ago they used to do group exercises as part of the application, so you could try reading through this entire thread and see what people had to say back then. It's possible they will re-use some elements of it?

Personally I'm happy to leave it an unknown as they intend it to be. At the end of the day, every part of the application tests our abilities and personalities to make absolutely sure we are the right people for the job. I'd be far more gutted if I got in because I "researched" ahead of the application stages and failed on course than if I failed the application because i'm just not the right person for the job. Does that make sense?

Spacejam 26th April 2019 08:04

I passed Stage 2 on 7th April and still haven't heard re dates for Stage 3. I did email on the 11th to check and they said they're still sorting the dates out so like you said, they must be finishing the groups from the previous system. Good luck to those doing their Stage 3 soon!

tf412 26th April 2019 08:06

I have my (old process) stage 3 on 8th May and I believe that was the last possible day to book it at CTC, although they had dates available at Prestwick on 30th and 31st May, so (based on pure speculation) I suspect come the 13th May or so they’ll start the new process assessment dates.

Spacejam 3rd May 2019 08:47


Originally Posted by tf412 (Post 10456144)
I have my (old process) stage 3 on 8th May and I believe that was the last possible day to book it at CTC, although they had dates available at Prestwick on 30th and 31st May, so (based on pure speculation) I suspect come the 13th May or so they’ll start the new process assessment dates.

Best of luck for 8th May! Let us know how you get on :) And thanks for that, looking on the bright side at least it's extra time to study the booklet!

MattPudzilla 3rd May 2019 14:07

Just got my email for the stage 3 invite. Booked for 10/06/2019 at Hedge End in Hampshire?
No full address on either email that I've seen but I assume its Unit 5&6, Waterloo Industrial Estate, Hedge End, Southampton SO30 2QT for anyone else that books in...

There weren't many days available and they were all at the same site, so anyone hoping for CTC in June may be out of luck.

Let me know who else books on that day and if they get clarification on the address.

Best of luck to anyone on the final stages of the old processs.

idloveit 3rd May 2019 14:11

I've booked in for 6th June. Just chose the first available date.

MattPudzilla 3rd May 2019 14:22


Originally Posted by idloveit (Post 10462033)
I've booked in for 6th June. Just chose the first available date.

What location options did you see?

The new knowledge info seems to be 90% the same as the old one, but they've cut loads of info out of the aircraft stats, probably found applicants were getting bogged down on the tiny details of the craft (i.e. me!) and the rest of the info suffered. A good move in my mind and reflects the much shorter timescale from invite to assessement day.

hr97 3rd May 2019 14:29

Stage 3 interview
 
Just received options for the stage 3 assessment, anybody else going on 13th June to Hampshire?

Beebee11 3rd May 2019 14:34

Hi everyone, I’m a lurker on here, I passed stage 2 last week and have booked for the 3rd July at Hampshire !! Has anyone else booked for this date

idloveit 3rd May 2019 15:44


Originally Posted by MattPudzilla (Post 10462040)
What location options did you see?

The new knowledge info seems to be 90% the same as the old one, but they've cut loads of info out of the aircraft stats, probably found applicants were getting bogged down on the tiny details of the craft (i.e. me!) and the rest of the info suffered. A good move in my mind and reflects the much shorter timescale from invite to assessement day.

To be honest, I didn't really look!
Like i said, just booked the first date and pressed confirm.


Beneleth 5th May 2019 16:08


Originally Posted by desrudy (Post 10462113)
If you want the pdf booklet, just send me a private message .

The emails were sent 2 hours ago , but the first seats ( in june ) are limited so you will get this message :

There are no time slots available for this event. Please contact us so that we can consider alternative options.


Hi all, one of you who is invited to the Stage 3 here :)

I was just wondering if there is anyone else who did not see even 1 date available? The moment the e-mail came and I went quickly through it I clicked on the link to see available dates and the message stated above was there. I know a lot of people apply but than again is it possible it all got booked in a matter of 40 seconds? 🤔

Also, I remember reading somewhere earlier that the date has to be booked 3 to 30 days since you receive your invitation. Anyone knows if that rule still applies?

tf412 5th May 2019 16:14

You'll find that as the dates fill up, they will open up more dates, so I wouldn't worry too much about it... just check back during office hours when HR have had chance to open up more dates.

Beneleth 5th May 2019 16:40

You are probably right.... Thank you :ok:

Bartek1 7th May 2019 09:31

Its so long from now though, does anyone have any info if the are going to open up some earlier dates? and in CTC preferably not Hedge End?

Calvin M. 7th May 2019 13:03

Hi!
Today I booked a date for 27th November (the only date that was available), do you know if earlier dates could be opened?

DJS63 9th May 2019 08:23


Originally Posted by hr97 (Post 10462043)
Just received options for the stage 3 assessment, anybody else going on 13th June to Hampshire?

Yup, I'm going :-)

idloveit 9th May 2019 12:10

Has anyone got any recommendations for hotels in the area to Hedge End?

Really not familiar with the area and don't want to book too far away incase bad traffic in the mornings etc.

I haven't even been told an actual address for the the day yet!

DJS63 9th May 2019 12:25


Originally Posted by idloveit (Post 10467130)
Has anyone got any recommendations for hotels in the area to Hedge End?

Really not familiar with the area and don't want to book too far away incase bad traffic in the mornings etc.

I haven't even been told an actual address for the the day yet!

I've booked at the Premier Inn about 10min drive away...
Also have not had a complete address for the day!!

The Many Tentacles 9th May 2019 14:53


Originally Posted by idloveit (Post 10467130)
Has anyone got any recommendations for hotels in the area to Hedge End?

Really not familiar with the area and don't want to book too far away incase bad traffic in the mornings etc.

I haven't even been told an actual address for the the day yet!

If you're in Hedge End, then stay at the Holiday Inn Express at the Ageas Bowl. Reasonably priced and if the traffic is crap, which it usually is, then you can actually walk it in about 10-15 minutes. If you're in Whiteley, then the Solent Hotel is your best bet.

MattPudzilla 10th May 2019 08:41


Originally Posted by DJS63 (Post 10467146)
I've booked at the Premier Inn about 10min drive away...
Also have not had a complete address for the day!!

The full address for the site is:

Unit 5&6, Waterloo Industrial Estate, Hedge End, Southampton, SO30 2QT.

Anyone else booked for the 10th June?

Alistair Rawlings 15th May 2019 07:31

Hi all,

Long time lurker, first time posting.

I recently did Stage 1 and the pass email came through immediately. I did Stage 2 but it has been a couple of days now and I haven’t heard if I’ve passed or failed. My account still says “Application is under review”.

Is this normal? I’ve read above that a few people heard immediately after Stage 2. Should I assume this is a fail?

MattPudzilla 15th May 2019 16:13


Originally Posted by Alistair Rawlings (Post 10471601)
Hi all,

Long time lurker, first time posting.

I recently did Stage 1 and the pass email came through immediately. I did Stage 2 but it has been a couple of days now and I haven’t heard if I’ve passed or failed. My account still says “Application is under review”.

Is this normal? I’ve read above that a few people heard immediately after Stage 2. Should I assume this is a fail?


The response times can vary. Stage 2 seems to be a personally based assessment so I imagine there are instant pass scores and instant fail scores. If you fall into a middle ground it's possible it gets sent for human review and decision on if you proceed or not. If they are busy (which they will be based on the Stage 3 dates being snapped up), it might be a few days before they look at your file.

NATS seem to always email you even if you fail, so I wouldn't make any asssumptions on your success until you have the emails in your hand.

Best of luck buddy! Let us know how you get on,

Matt

Alistair Rawlings 15th May 2019 16:27


Originally Posted by MattPudzilla (Post 10471942)
The response times can vary. Stage 2 seems to be a personally based assessment so I imagine there are instant pass scores and instant fail scores. If you fall into a middle ground it's possible it gets sent for human review and decision on if you proceed or not. If they are busy (which they will be based on the Stage 3 dates being snapped up), it might be a few days before they look at your file.

NATS seem to always email you even if you fail, so I wouldn't make any asssumptions on your success until you have the emails in your hand.

Best of luck buddy! Let us know how you get on,

Matt

Thanks for the reply Matt! That makes sense, good to know. Will let you know how it goes once I hear, hopefully not too much longer to wait!

Cheers,

Alistair

ObscureParadox 15th May 2019 16:34

Hi all,

I recently passed the first two stages of the new process and am waiting on the release of dates for the interview. Just a couple of questions really.

1. How often do the interview dates become available

2. When do the courses start or is there no set start time?

Thanks guys :)

Lewis.

ObscureParadox 15th May 2019 19:18


Originally Posted by desrudy (Post 10472044)
1 . They should contact you when there will put new dates .

2. There are two possibilities : 14/01/2020 or 25/03/2020 ( the most probable )

Appreciate the reply :)

Glad to have a better idea on the time frame I can expect to start in order for me to be able to save appropriately for that time

Trevor Hannant 16th May 2019 05:51

People do drop out of courses though for different reasons so you may also be offered an earlier date...

Mishelche 16th May 2019 08:30

Stage 2 Info
 

Originally Posted by ObscureParadox (Post 10471960)
Hi all,

I recently passed the first two stages of the new process and am waiting on the release of dates for the interview. Just a couple of questions really.

1. How often do the interview dates become available

2. When do the courses start or is there no set start time?

Thanks guys :)

Lewis.

Hi Obscure Paradox,
Congratulations for passing the first two stages.

If I can ask you to help me with some information, if it is possible, regarding the stage 2 tests as I did not find any info for the stage 1 from the new process.

That's all.

PP49 16th May 2019 10:05

Anybody starting Global in July?

BrotherTuck 16th May 2019 16:01

It seems that all dates for stage 3 are full for 2019. As far as I understood there will not be any new dates for testing this year. The question is if we who haven't got any date yet will have any chance to get into the training that starts in January or March.

Topcat47 17th May 2019 00:20

Probably one of the last on the old process but having had my stage 3 on Monday I'm overjoyed to say I passed! 2 trips to Hampshire from Sydney in as many months didn't go to waste afterall :)

Told it'll likely be a January start date but wont know for sure until August(ish), anyone else in the same boat?


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