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LBroadbean 5th November 2018 10:04

For stage 3 how would you give evidence of emotional stability?

Would this be examples of how I dealt with situations like loosing a family member, bullying and situations like that or am I on the wrong track?

+For ATC motivation examples, is stating that I used to want to be a pilot a good or a bad idea?

Thanks for any help!

Bartek1 5th November 2018 12:39

Hey everybody! I've been lurking on this forum for a while and decided it's time to join in :)
I am currently a week away from my Stage 3 - passed Stage 2 a month ago and I have to say I found the whole test quite enjoyable. The first part of FEAST out of 10 people only me and some other person went on to take DART. After doing DART I felt that if this is what a job as ATC looks like, I think I could be good at it. I got an invitation email for Stage 3 the very next morning so I think that indicates that I passed the DART with a pretty decent score ( or maybe not lol ).

Anyway, as english is my second language ( I am polish ) I was wondering if there is anyone who could help me out a bit with this final part of recruitment. I have never done any recruitment solely in english language and here is one of the hardest possible! I'd like to know a bit more about what to expect so I can prepare adequately and not ruin my chances just because of language barrier.


Originally Posted by LBroadbean (Post 10302102)
For stage 3 how would you give evidence of emotional stability?

Would this be examples of how I dealt with situations like loosing a family member, bullying and situations like that or am I on the wrong track?

+For ATC motivation examples, is stating that I used to want to be a pilot a good or a bad idea?

Thanks for any help!

Like that above:

How do you know they will ask you about your emotional stability? is there any source to possible questions they can ask? or ATC motivation examples.

Please any kind person PM me if you are willing to share some insights on this last stage. It's quite an investment for me to travel to England for those tests and all I want is have some fair chance :)

Niki86 5th November 2018 18:55

@GreenATC
Why did it take so long before the offer of a medical appointment and the actual appointment? Was there no dates available?

GreenATC 6th November 2018 00:26


Originally Posted by Niki86 (Post 10302557)
@GreenATC
Why did it take so long before the offer of a medical appointment and the actual appointment? Was there no dates available?

Essentially I couldn't make the first one they offered me and so was given a later one instead that I could definitely make.

Niki86 7th November 2018 08:26

@GreenATC
Thanks ;) I hope I won't have to wait long. That's if I get through Stage 3.

TTTom 7th November 2018 13:27

Is anyone starting in Whiteley in January?

I'm starting then and I'm looking to see if there is any group on facebook/whatsapp; starting to get curious about living arrangements and a few other things and would be useful to see what others are doing.

YannLePentrec 7th November 2018 17:22

Hi guys and gals.

Got my Stage 3 in Dec so currently studying and preparing.

Do you have any choice in which of the 3 training sites you attend?

LBroadbean 7th November 2018 17:30

Unfortunately I fell at the final hurdle, had my stage 3 on November 6th and have been told that I can re-apply in one year's time (subject to change)

I'm torn on what to do. I could stay at my current job for a year and try again, or pursue a role as a controller in the RAF or Navy.

I know I got into the final 4%, which is an achievement in itself, but NATS will not give you any feedback on whether or not they believe you would be good enough in a year etc.

If I haven't passed this time, is it worth trying again?

The Many Tentacles 8th November 2018 08:04


Originally Posted by LBroadbean (Post 10304699)
Unfortunately I fell at the final hurdle, had my stage 3 on November 6th and have been told that I can re-apply in one year's time (subject to change)

I'm torn on what to do. I could stay at my current job for a year and try again, or pursue a role as a controller in the RAF or Navy.

I know I got into the final 4%, which is an achievement in itself, but NATS will not give you any feedback on whether or not they believe you would be good enough in a year etc.

If I haven't passed this time, is it worth trying again?

If you're really sure it's what you want to do and you've been invited back, then go for it. Use the year to build up a little more life experience and then you're in a better position. If you're not 100% then start looking for other jobs/careers, but know you've got it to come back to in a year if you're not happy doing what you're doing at the time

Niki86 8th November 2018 10:48

@LBroadbean
Sorry to hear about that but I totally agree with @The Many Tentacles. If you really want this job, wait a year and go for it.
That's what I did. It's my second attempt now and hopefully I won't need a third one. But even if I'm unsuccessful this time, I'll try to improve even more and try again.
On the good side, it's only a year's waiting now. I had to wait 2 years to reapply.

RussLee 8th November 2018 11:56

Hey guys. So I have been hanging around in this topic lurking in the background for a few weeks now. Seeing so many positive people on here encouraging each other is really pleasant to see. I have my Stage 2 coming up in a couple of weeks, I'm a bit nervous and want to do my best like everyone else but I also know it's something you either have or don't which I found out by doing some research.

I hope in a few weeks I'll be back on here to say I've passed Stage 2 and if I don't, then I'll just do what a couple of you guys are doing and try again!

If anyone else on here is doing Stage 2 on 27th Nov feel free to message me on here :)

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arthur88 8th November 2018 21:37

Been lurking here for about a week, hi everyone!

I got my stage 2 tomorrow morning (9th Nov).

​Ive travelled down today and staying in a hotel nearby NATS for tonight only then travelling back up north after the tests. My only concern would be what I should do with bags/coat. Will there be somewhere to put them or will I just have to carry it around all day?

YannLePentrec 9th November 2018 05:02


Originally Posted by arthur88 (Post 10305850)
Been lurking here for about a week, hi everyone!

I got my stage 2 tomorrow morning (9th Nov).

​Ive travelled down today and staying in a hotel nearby NATS for tonight only then travelling back up north after the tests. My only concern would be what I should do with bags/coat. Will there be somewhere to put them or will I just have to carry it around all day?

You can take them in. They'll get scanned at entry. You can then either take them with you or they will look after them until you leave.

Good luck today.

Cameron_95 9th November 2018 07:18


Originally Posted by TTTom (Post 10304474)
Is anyone starting in Whiteley in January?

I'm starting then and I'm looking to see if there is any group on facebook/whatsapp; starting to get curious about living arrangements and a few other things and would be useful to see what others are doing.

There’s a WhatsApp group I’m in with a few others. PM me your number and I’ll add you in

LBroadbean 10th November 2018 09:28


Originally Posted by YannLePentrec (Post 10304692)
Hi guys and gals.

Got my Stage 3 in Dec so currently studying and preparing.

Do you have any choice in which of the 3 training sites you attend?

I believe so, as different people have different notice periods for their current job(s).

pm11 12th November 2018 21:24


Originally Posted by LBroadbean (Post 10304699)
Unfortunately I fell at the final hurdle, had my stage 3 on November 6th and have been told that I can re-apply in one year's time (subject to change)

I'm torn on what to do. I could stay at my current job for a year and try again, or pursue a role as a controller in the RAF or Navy.

I know I got into the final 4%, which is an achievement in itself, but NATS will not give you any feedback on whether or not they believe you would be good enough in a year etc.

If I haven't passed this time, is it worth trying again?

As someone who is leaving the MOD for NATS... have a productive year, try to broaden your horizons to tick the life experience box. Why not dip your toe and become a reservist or something?

ATCOWEN 12th November 2018 22:47


Originally Posted by LBroadbean (Post 10304699)
Unfortunately I fell at the final hurdle, had my stage 3 on November 6th and have been told that I can re-apply in one year's time (subject to change)

I'm torn on what to do. I could stay at my current job for a year and try again, or pursue a role as a controller in the RAF or Navy.

I know I got into the final 4%, which is an achievement in itself, but NATS will not give you any feedback on whether or not they believe you would be good enough in a year etc.

If I haven't passed this time, is it worth trying again?

have you thought applying to EuroControl? seeing as you passed FEAST they're likely to just fast track you to interview stage, they may want you to do feast again, but it's certainly an option if you haven't already, only thing is you need to be no older than 25, so depends on your age.

Trevor Hannant 13th November 2018 06:25

So after nearly a week of waiting,yesterday I got the much hoped for phone call to tell me I’d passed Stage 3 and was being made a conditional offer. Delighted really didn’t cover how I felt as I came off the phone!

Have been pencilled in for Jerez in February although that may change (due to personal circumstances).

In terms of timelines, I started the process back in March this year, my third attempt to get in (my first fell at Stage 1, my second never got past the application stage as they had changed the rules about being able to reapply without putting that anywhere on their criteria so wasn’t aware). If you have been unsuccessful, don’t let it out you off - you can do it, I have. Just take what you’ve learned through the process and work on it. If it’s Stage 2 you fall at, remember what you did, what was hard and work on that. If Stage 3, go away and think how you can be stronger there and come back better and more confident in what you’re giving as your answers.

Hope to see some some of you soon!

GreenATC 13th November 2018 07:09

Nice Trevor! Good work. There's a whatsapp group for those starting Jerez in Feb if you fancy joining. Just PM your number.

flymetothem00n 13th November 2018 08:28

NATS Stage 2 Assessment
 
Recently did the Stage 2 NATS assessment. Intense but fun day, to make this a fair process I won't go into too much detail but here's some tips:

-Read the booklet and memorise most of it. (They ask questions from all aspects, don't think any detail is insignificant).
-As for the aircraft info, I know it's a lot but I was strategic about this and memorised what I thought was most significant for an ATC to know.
-Practice brain games, especially spacial awareness games
-Brush on your mental arithmetic
-The DARTS is unique so no way you can really prep for it.
-Get a good nights sleep, this is crucial as your constantly focusing and by the end of it, should you succeed, your brain will be frazzled.

If anyone has any questions feel free to PM me I'll be more than happy to help.

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Trevor Hannant 13th November 2018 09:28

Thanks G - will be making a decision at weekend when I’m home from a residential course as to whether I go there or to Global in March. If I go with Jerez, will ping you a PM

Lina - can’t reply to your PM as you’ve used your allocation. PM me an email address or number for WhatsApp and I’ll reply there!

AlexG 13th November 2018 12:46

Congratulations on getting the offer Trevor!

My Stage 3 is coming up - any tips on what I might expect or what I should think about during my preparation? Obviously you can't go into specifics but any feedback would be super helpful!

Thanks and congrats again

LBroadbean 13th November 2018 15:29


Originally Posted by pm11 (Post 10309416)
As someone who is leaving the MOD for NATS... have a productive year, try to broaden your horizons to tick the life experience box. Why not dip your toe and become a reservist or something?

Yeh I have a few things I'm aiming to do. Pass driving test, visit a couple of ATC Towers, and I was thinking of joining the RAF as a reserve.

Flight Operations Assistant and Flight Operations Manager have attracted my attention.

What is NATS like with reserves? I would have to sign up for 12 years, and may have to leave for 12months at a time. Would this affect my chances of getting in?

Trevor Hannant 13th November 2018 15:55

I’m a Reservist Flight Ops Assistant (or will be after I graduate this week!) and they’d no issues with that at all. In fact, NATS won an award for their commitment to the Armed Forces last year and have signed up to the Armed Forces Covenant:

https://www.nats.aero/news/nats-reco...ces-community/

You would need to take a career break from the Reserves, certainly while at college as there would be no scope to allow you time out for Annual Continuous Training. Will be different on unit but you would likely need to talk to the unit when you get there about it.

Trevor Hannant 13th November 2018 16:01


Originally Posted by AlexG (Post 10309927)
Congratulations on getting the offer Trevor!

My Stage 3 is coming up - any tips on what I might expect or what I should think about during my preparation? Obviously you can't go into specifics but any feedback would be super helpful!

Thanks and congrats again

Alex, the advice I’d give is pretty well what’s above - make sure you know the booklet inside out and understand it. Also, make sure you prepare examples of appropriate examples for a competency interview - there’s a lot of resources out there for these and the kind of questions you can get. Make sure you research a spread of possible questions/scenarios and have examples to back it up.

Chalky07 16th November 2018 13:06

Hi, just found out this morning that I’ve passed my stage 3 interview and have been offered a place on the Jerez course starting February (providing I pass medical etc). Is there anybody else starting this course? From this I gather there’s a group chat somewhere?
Thanks,
Matthew

Trevor Hannant 16th November 2018 15:23

Congratulations Matthew, very well done!

Chalky07 16th November 2018 19:31

Thanks very much Trevor, congratulations yourself! Are you on the Jerez course in Feb?

Trevor Hannant 16th November 2018 20:10

Quick question - has anyone who’s done the course with Global gone onto Area? Know that they don’t normally teach Area there...

BARRY_SCOTT 16th November 2018 21:31


Originally Posted by Trevor Hannant (Post 10313179)
Quick question - has anyone who’s done the course with Global gone onto Area? Know that they don’t normally teach Area there...

I don't think so. Just ADI and APS ratings. (Unless you fail the Basic and get recoursed to CTC)

LyanRewis 18th November 2018 08:49


Originally Posted by Chalky07 (Post 10313162)
Thanks very much Trevor, congratulations yourself! Are you on the Jerez course in Feb?

Private message me your number and I will add you to our WhatsApp group

Trevor Hannant 18th November 2018 14:51


Originally Posted by GreenATC (Post 10309656)
Nice Trevor! Good work. There's a whatsapp group for those starting Jerez in Feb if you fancy joining. Just PM your number.

PM sent!


Originally Posted by Chalky07 (Post 10313162)
Thanks very much Trevor, congratulations yourself! Are you on the Jerez course in Feb?

Thanks! I am now that I've decided to go for that option, yes.


Originally Posted by BARRY_SCOTT (Post 10313232)
I don't think so. Just ADI and APS ratings. (Unless you fail the Basic and get recoursed to CTC)

Thanks Barry

scottishguy1980 19th November 2018 17:28

Evening.

In the not so distant future, I'm doing the FEAST test with another ANSP. I've read that the FEAST Part 1 has changed. Without giving specifics about the tests, if someone has done it recently, could they say if it has changed dramatically from the original? Is it still the cube folding/ball on the wall/shape sorting tasks?

Thanks!

SG1980

leclerc16 20th November 2018 13:58

Had my stage 3 yesterday and just got the call to say I'm in (conditionally), Gloucester starting March 1st. Can't quite believe it but obviously very pleased! Just wondering if a whatsapp group or anything has been started yet for that course, I know it's a bit later than the other courses a lot of you have been offered. Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing some of you there!

leclerc16 20th November 2018 15:54


Originally Posted by StuBob (Post 10315640)
Congratulations leclerc16! How long has that taken then from your initial application to conditional start date?

Thank you! To use a similar template to the other timelines that have already been posted here:
Day 1 - Take and pass stage 0, invite to stage 1, pass stage 1, invite to stage 2
Day 2 - Booked stage 2
Day 38 - Attended stage 2, pass confirmation later the same day
Day 40 - Booked stage 3
Day 76 - Attended stage 3
Day 77 - Confirmation of conditional offer
Day 178 - Conditional start date :)

I could've chosen earlier dates for stage 3 but I wanted to make sure I felt fully prepared so you may be able to go through the process faster.
Hope this helps someone!

Trevor Hannant 20th November 2018 19:57


Originally Posted by leclerc16 (Post 10315584)
Had my stage 3 yesterday and just got the call to say I'm in (conditionally), Gloucester starting March 1st. Can't quite believe it but obviously very pleased! Just wondering if a whatsapp group or anything has been started yet for that course, I know it's a bit later than the other courses a lot of you have been offered. Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing some of you there!

Congratulations! I was considering the Gloucester course but plumped for Jerez for different reasons...

Trevor Hannant 21st November 2018 10:40

See, nothing to worry about! ;)

Will see you again when we get back from Spain! :p

The Many Tentacles 21st November 2018 15:39

No one on here can give you the answer to that - you need to speak to NATS HR department and they can advise you on what your options are

Arg1203 21st November 2018 15:51


Originally Posted by HannahWrigley (Post 10316318)
Benbar1 - your inbox is full so I can’t reply so dm me your number and I’ll make a whatsapp group

Hey i'm also on April @ CTC - we have a what's app group already (just 2 of us), if you wanna join, let me know!

DarrenG42 21st November 2018 20:23

Hi, thanks for all the valuable advise on this page, it has answered tonnes of questions I would have had,

I'm flying down from Glasgow on Monday to do stage 2 on Tuesday. Even saw someone mention the ibis in Southampton I'm staying at for 2 nights. Looking forward to it but nervously trying to memorise all the aircraft details.

Anyone else going on Tuesday, send me a dm and also if anyone has tips on how to memorise the data in a small time frame, iv tried flash cards and even recorded myself on my phone to listen in the car 😂 it would be greatly appreciated. Good luck to everyone still to sit assessments and waiting to hear the results.
DG

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