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kooki, you certainly exemplify your nom de plume.
Your simplistic viewpoint is that people come for the money only. It doesn't seem to enter your silly little head that they might approach the work with a professional attitude and want to work in a professionally run outfit, i.e. they might even want to have a hand in ensuring that the system is ICAO compliant rather than take the Diktats of one unqualified idiot (Pinocchio aka El Stupido) and another under qualified idiot (Stromboli).
It's obvious from your scribbles that you are a local and I have to say that your attitude is not untypical of some locals, although certainly not the clever ones - the nice guys. Why do you think that the DG has appointed the ex UK CAA Group Director, Safety Regulation as his special advisor? Do you possibly think that it might be that he (the DG) is becoming aware of the limitations of the 'Gruesome Twosome" and may now also be aware that the unit is:
1. non ICAO compliant
2. About to be downgraded by the FAA.
or that it might be that he (the DG) wants to invite his new advisor to have tea with Stromboli!!
From your simplistic attitude I deduce that you think that it is OK to protect a rotten system by firing anyone who objects to the unit safety concerns.
You're a sad little idiot with much to learn.
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STAY ALERT! They walk amongst us, and the scary part is that they have the RIGHT TO VOTE (although thank God, not in the UAE) and the right to reproduce!
Your simplistic viewpoint is that people come for the money only. It doesn't seem to enter your silly little head that they might approach the work with a professional attitude and want to work in a professionally run outfit, i.e. they might even want to have a hand in ensuring that the system is ICAO compliant rather than take the Diktats of one unqualified idiot (Pinocchio aka El Stupido) and another under qualified idiot (Stromboli).
It's obvious from your scribbles that you are a local and I have to say that your attitude is not untypical of some locals, although certainly not the clever ones - the nice guys. Why do you think that the DG has appointed the ex UK CAA Group Director, Safety Regulation as his special advisor? Do you possibly think that it might be that he (the DG) is becoming aware of the limitations of the 'Gruesome Twosome" and may now also be aware that the unit is:
1. non ICAO compliant
2. About to be downgraded by the FAA.
or that it might be that he (the DG) wants to invite his new advisor to have tea with Stromboli!!
From your simplistic attitude I deduce that you think that it is OK to protect a rotten system by firing anyone who objects to the unit safety concerns.
You're a sad little idiot with much to learn.
IDIOTS
STAY ALERT! They walk amongst us, and the scary part is that they have the RIGHT TO VOTE (although thank God, not in the UAE) and the right to reproduce!
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Looks like a Duck,
Quacks like a Duck
Everyone says it’s a Duck
Even the Duck says – "trust me – I’m a Duck"!
and it it floats…
But Kooki says it’s a Swan.
Either it’s a Kookie wind-up or … “YOU CAME HERE FOR THE MONEY SO DO YOUR JOB OR AND LEAVE” your
Self respect
‘SMS’
Contemporary ideas
System improvement suggestions
AT HOME!
It’s really just a Primeval Duck – nearly out of the pond and going nowhere.
Not exactly inspiring to those who would want to work in the ME for not just the money, but the country, the people and the opportunities!
Quacks like a Duck
Everyone says it’s a Duck
Even the Duck says – "trust me – I’m a Duck"!
and it it floats…
But Kooki says it’s a Swan.
Either it’s a Kookie wind-up or … “YOU CAME HERE FOR THE MONEY SO DO YOUR JOB OR AND LEAVE” your
Self respect
‘SMS’
Contemporary ideas
System improvement suggestions
AT HOME!
It’s really just a Primeval Duck – nearly out of the pond and going nowhere.
Not exactly inspiring to those who would want to work in the ME for not just the money, but the country, the people and the opportunities!
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Very magnamimous post, all things considered.
Best of luck to the 'Famous Five' ATCOs and lets not forget the two engineers.
However, kooki, young or not, is still an idiot. With an attitude like his he is already suitably qualified to join the ANS senior managment team, then they can go round in a group of three.
The old Stasi joke comes to mind:
one to read - kooki
one to write - Stromboli
& one - Pinocchio, to keep an eye on the two intellectuals
To infinity and beyond and, hopefully back in time for a pint of Jélén Pivo in honour of the Zonkmeister
P.S. Since writing this I note that our 'friend' kooki has deleted his original post. Spineless little chap.
P.P.S. ANSA has also deleted his two posts. What to say!!
As kooki would say "Pathetic".
Very magnamimous post, all things considered.
Best of luck to the 'Famous Five' ATCOs and lets not forget the two engineers.
However, kooki, young or not, is still an idiot. With an attitude like his he is already suitably qualified to join the ANS senior managment team, then they can go round in a group of three.
The old Stasi joke comes to mind:
one to read - kooki
one to write - Stromboli
& one - Pinocchio, to keep an eye on the two intellectuals
To infinity and beyond and, hopefully back in time for a pint of Jélén Pivo in honour of the Zonkmeister
P.S. Since writing this I note that our 'friend' kooki has deleted his original post. Spineless little chap.
P.P.S. ANSA has also deleted his two posts. What to say!!
As kooki would say "Pathetic".
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ANSA
couldn't agree more with you.
There are some really good local guys in the system, both at OMAA and the ACC, but until the 'Dirty Duo' get their comeuppance not much will change.
The emeratis have a saying in relation to oil: My father had a camel, I have a car, my son will have an aeroplane and his son will have a camel.
It is difficult for idiots like kooki to comprehend that without professional expat input he will have a camel sooner rather than later. His father would understand but he is too arrogant and stupid.
Anyways, best of luck for the future.
couldn't agree more with you.
There are some really good local guys in the system, both at OMAA and the ACC, but until the 'Dirty Duo' get their comeuppance not much will change.
The emeratis have a saying in relation to oil: My father had a camel, I have a car, my son will have an aeroplane and his son will have a camel.
It is difficult for idiots like kooki to comprehend that without professional expat input he will have a camel sooner rather than later. His father would understand but he is too arrogant and stupid.
Anyways, best of luck for the future.
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i have nothing against my 5 ex-colleuges , i just wanted to make a point that for our previous MATCO,SATCO we didnt have this big fuss when they were terminated or what ever, why now people are making this big story out of it. i think you are one of them good luck in your future career
Vercingetorix
i have no idea who are you , im not sure if u r still an employee or not but most probably you are one of the old legends who people till now making jokes about. and to be honest why do u care if i have a camel or a space shuttle. this proves one thing that you are as childish and arrogant as a 12 year old.
get a life
my 1st thread comment was deleted coz i got a reqeust from one of the expat colleuges
i have nothing against my 5 ex-colleuges , i just wanted to make a point that for our previous MATCO,SATCO we didnt have this big fuss when they were terminated or what ever, why now people are making this big story out of it. i think you are one of them good luck in your future career
Vercingetorix
i have no idea who are you , im not sure if u r still an employee or not but most probably you are one of the old legends who people till now making jokes about. and to be honest why do u care if i have a camel or a space shuttle. this proves one thing that you are as childish and arrogant as a 12 year old.
get a life
my 1st thread comment was deleted coz i got a reqeust from one of the expat colleuges
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Hi ANSA, sorry to hear about your enforced probable relocation.
Always thought you were an up front guy, just took a really serious safety issue for you to make your stand. You probably were aware of what the outcome would be, one is not allowed to challenge the mental outpourings of the gruesome twosome. I wish you all the luck wherever you go.
Kookie - what a wazzack
Your posts have almost succeeded in destroying any perceived hope that most of the expats had in the locals eventually being able to run a safe, efficient and effective ACC and en-route service. I only hope that Verci is correct and you are a young-un and still very much wet behind the ears. You obviously neither have any sense of work ethic nor understanding of what pride in a job well done means. Your attitude stinks.
Always thought you were an up front guy, just took a really serious safety issue for you to make your stand. You probably were aware of what the outcome would be, one is not allowed to challenge the mental outpourings of the gruesome twosome. I wish you all the luck wherever you go.
Kookie - what a wazzack
Your posts have almost succeeded in destroying any perceived hope that most of the expats had in the locals eventually being able to run a safe, efficient and effective ACC and en-route service. I only hope that Verci is correct and you are a young-un and still very much wet behind the ears. You obviously neither have any sense of work ethic nor understanding of what pride in a job well done means. Your attitude stinks.
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Kooki, even controllers in Addis Abbabas approach know who Vercigetorix is. I think you have a lot of catching up to do before you can make an informed reply. However, since you did recind your first post at the request of an expat collegue, that does warrant a bit of respect.
ANSA, you could work anywhere. If you ever need a reference, feel free to PM me.
ANSA, you could work anywhere. If you ever need a reference, feel free to PM me.
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Re your comment:-
"If you think acceptable behaviour is to sack a group of people with wives and children relying on them, without even offering proper justification and reason, and doing all these sackings without even having the balls to do it to their face, but to instead hide behind their frosted glass and computer screens and e-mail the terminations out"
not a lot changes in the Modus Operandi of the 'Gruesome twosome'.
They are a pair of spineless toads.
Question for 'kooki'.
How long do you think your DANS Pinocchio aka El Stupido would last if (hopefully) his EXPAT puppet master is ousted? The answer is NOT LONG as he (El Stupido) is totally incompetent. Nearly two years in post and still crying for an advisor. N.B. says it all really re the necessity for having expats.
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Wow, I knew I had a wide readership but Addis Abeba. Excellento
Re your comment:-
"If you think acceptable behaviour is to sack a group of people with wives and children relying on them, without even offering proper justification and reason, and doing all these sackings without even having the balls to do it to their face, but to instead hide behind their frosted glass and computer screens and e-mail the terminations out"
not a lot changes in the Modus Operandi of the 'Gruesome twosome'.
They are a pair of spineless toads.
Question for 'kooki'.
How long do you think your DANS Pinocchio aka El Stupido would last if (hopefully) his EXPAT puppet master is ousted? The answer is NOT LONG as he (El Stupido) is totally incompetent. Nearly two years in post and still crying for an advisor. N.B. says it all really re the necessity for having expats.
The Shue
Wow, I knew I had a wide readership but Addis Abeba. Excellento
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Serco seem to have run out of rabbits except for the chap chosen as their UAE ACC Rep. Definitely a wabbit in wolf's clothing.
Folks will be voting with their feet to escape the gloom, doom and the “YOU CAME HERE FOR THE MONEY SO DO YOUR JOB OR LEAVE” scenario as stated by 'kooki' aka silly t*at.
'twas a good happy unit but, hey, a serious reality check occurred as to the way the "Gruesome Twosome' operate.
Remember to wear your kandura on the 14th! No photo ops for those with 'blue eyes'.
Cheers
Serco seem to have run out of rabbits except for the chap chosen as their UAE ACC Rep. Definitely a wabbit in wolf's clothing.
Folks will be voting with their feet to escape the gloom, doom and the “YOU CAME HERE FOR THE MONEY SO DO YOUR JOB OR LEAVE” scenario as stated by 'kooki' aka silly t*at.
'twas a good happy unit but, hey, a serious reality check occurred as to the way the "Gruesome Twosome' operate.
Remember to wear your kandura on the 14th! No photo ops for those with 'blue eyes'.
Cheers
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Remember to wear your kandura on the 14th! No photo ops for those with 'blue eyes'.
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Yep, reckon the Advisor to the DANS in his white trousers, blue shirt and aquascutum red tie will fit in nicely, NOT! Gotta laugh really, except that it is very sad for those who worked so hard for the place and got shafted for their efforts.
However, as kooki said “YOU CAME HERE FOR THE MONEY SO DO YOUR JOB OR LEAVE”
Actually, the whole deal re the man managment abilities, or lack of, of the "Gruesome twosome" makes me want to throw up.
Slimey, grubby, lowlife, disgusting, unethical, corrupt, self serving, etc are the images that come to mind when I think of them.
Time for a pint of anything (even Castle) to wash the taste of them away.
However, as kooki said “YOU CAME HERE FOR THE MONEY SO DO YOUR JOB OR LEAVE”
Actually, the whole deal re the man managment abilities, or lack of, of the "Gruesome twosome" makes me want to throw up.
Slimey, grubby, lowlife, disgusting, unethical, corrupt, self serving, etc are the images that come to mind when I think of them.
Time for a pint of anything (even Castle) to wash the taste of them away.
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You are so pathetic you make me laugh .....
I think you like my phrase thou you still hold this grudge against gcaa and the managment "dans and his advisor"
You don't have anything related to gcaa why do you care about it anymore .. Just be ashamed because as you said a young local got into your nerves
LoL ... Keeep talkin till 2moro and you'll never get back to any of the managment guys and you won't do any harm .
I'm so happy to see some1 really intrested in GCAA internal affairs this much ,externaly .
You are as "SMARTY" as you would be
You are so pathetic you make me laugh .....
I think you like my phrase thou you still hold this grudge against gcaa and the managment "dans and his advisor"
You don't have anything related to gcaa why do you care about it anymore .. Just be ashamed because as you said a young local got into your nerves
LoL ... Keeep talkin till 2moro and you'll never get back to any of the managment guys and you won't do any harm .
I'm so happy to see some1 really intrested in GCAA internal affairs this much ,externaly .
You are as "SMARTY" as you would be
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I have no grudge against the GCCA, although they are an organisation in complete disarray.
I trained El Stupido and got him through his validation when the training office wanted to chop him. He, with his wife (a really lovely lady) and I used to meet downtown to socialise and plan his future but like a true Dubai/Irani snake, he changed allegiances as soon as the opportunity arose.
He has no moral code to speak of, otherwise why did your local supervisor transfer to the Regs department and why is said ex supervisor banned from entering the Szc? Ans. "cos the DANS is a vindictive little git.
I recommended the ex local supervisor to be promoted to SATCO but the NOTSO GREAT RJ overrode me as he has no respect for locals which would include you, sunbeam! (plus he and his catamite DANS have a down on said ex local sup which is actually quite sad as the man is A OK)
Now, as suggested by others, go away and come back when you can read and write in both arabic and english.
Your DANS is totally out of his depth and only signs off what Stromboli instructs him to do. He is Stromboli's instrument/catamite.
When you invite expats to come to your country to take up job opportunities you expect them to bring their wives and children wth them and would, hopefully, expect them to be interested in the UAE culture. Your scribbles do not do much that enhance such culture (!), rather they show a complete lack of manners. To fire people without due process and any prior warning shows a complete lack of management skills by the 'Gruesome Twosome'. The GCAA has a duty of care to its employees which it does not fulfill.
An expat comes to the UAE with family, places kids in school and expects to be treated with a certain consideration, not "YOU CAME HERE FOR THE MONEY SO DO YOUR JOB OR LEAVE”.
While such an attitude and behaviour continues you will always be a third world country and so shall you remain.
In passing remind your DANS that he used to refer to me (as Sheikh Zayed used to refer to Wilfred Thesiger) as UMBARAK except that unlike Sheikh Zayed, Pinocchio is a liar and a miscreant.
Also, remind Stromboli that due to his lack of strategic planning and foresight he enabled me to achieve millionaire status. Wonderful chap, by default only.
Cheers
Now where is that infinity drive and can it take me far enough away fron idiots like 'kooki'.
Nurse nurse, is that a full bottle in front of me or have I had a full frontal lobotomy?
I have no grudge against the GCCA, although they are an organisation in complete disarray.
I trained El Stupido and got him through his validation when the training office wanted to chop him. He, with his wife (a really lovely lady) and I used to meet downtown to socialise and plan his future but like a true Dubai/Irani snake, he changed allegiances as soon as the opportunity arose.
He has no moral code to speak of, otherwise why did your local supervisor transfer to the Regs department and why is said ex supervisor banned from entering the Szc? Ans. "cos the DANS is a vindictive little git.
I recommended the ex local supervisor to be promoted to SATCO but the NOTSO GREAT RJ overrode me as he has no respect for locals which would include you, sunbeam! (plus he and his catamite DANS have a down on said ex local sup which is actually quite sad as the man is A OK)
Now, as suggested by others, go away and come back when you can read and write in both arabic and english.
Your DANS is totally out of his depth and only signs off what Stromboli instructs him to do. He is Stromboli's instrument/catamite.
When you invite expats to come to your country to take up job opportunities you expect them to bring their wives and children wth them and would, hopefully, expect them to be interested in the UAE culture. Your scribbles do not do much that enhance such culture (!), rather they show a complete lack of manners. To fire people without due process and any prior warning shows a complete lack of management skills by the 'Gruesome Twosome'. The GCAA has a duty of care to its employees which it does not fulfill.
An expat comes to the UAE with family, places kids in school and expects to be treated with a certain consideration, not "YOU CAME HERE FOR THE MONEY SO DO YOUR JOB OR LEAVE”.
While such an attitude and behaviour continues you will always be a third world country and so shall you remain.
In passing remind your DANS that he used to refer to me (as Sheikh Zayed used to refer to Wilfred Thesiger) as UMBARAK except that unlike Sheikh Zayed, Pinocchio is a liar and a miscreant.
Also, remind Stromboli that due to his lack of strategic planning and foresight he enabled me to achieve millionaire status. Wonderful chap, by default only.
Cheers
Now where is that infinity drive and can it take me far enough away fron idiots like 'kooki'.
Nurse nurse, is that a full bottle in front of me or have I had a full frontal lobotomy?
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Interesting series of posts. Stumbled here due to the shut down in Muscat, but this seems more interesting.
The situation, and people like kooki, are almost stereotypical of the Gulf.
IMHO kooki's just a young local raised on the traditional BS, who thinks expats are somehow taking from his country, just here for the money, etc; and - typical of the younger generation everywhere but especially in the Gulf - is someone used to the easy life and has grown up in a place with an almost cargo cult approach to modernity. And they confuse criticism with insult.
He's also young, inexperienced, and clearly too stupid to know he doesn't know very much. That can change, hopefully. Fortunately, meanwhile, the vast competency gap it creates for 'getting important stuff done' allows expats like me to have a great time in the Gulf.
In general, the ME internet forums attract commenters who want to try and dumb down the debate by making it an issue of 'expat' vs 'local'. Or that personalise it and suggest that just because you don't live in the ME permanently (or presently), you don't have a right to comment.
When - of course - it should be about pesky little things like facts, ideas, performance, competency, professionalism, safety, respecting people, and getting the job done.
Which, like I said, is why we will always have a job in the Middle East... Good help is hard to find.
The situation, and people like kooki, are almost stereotypical of the Gulf.
IMHO kooki's just a young local raised on the traditional BS, who thinks expats are somehow taking from his country, just here for the money, etc; and - typical of the younger generation everywhere but especially in the Gulf - is someone used to the easy life and has grown up in a place with an almost cargo cult approach to modernity. And they confuse criticism with insult.
He's also young, inexperienced, and clearly too stupid to know he doesn't know very much. That can change, hopefully. Fortunately, meanwhile, the vast competency gap it creates for 'getting important stuff done' allows expats like me to have a great time in the Gulf.
In general, the ME internet forums attract commenters who want to try and dumb down the debate by making it an issue of 'expat' vs 'local'. Or that personalise it and suggest that just because you don't live in the ME permanently (or presently), you don't have a right to comment.
When - of course - it should be about pesky little things like facts, ideas, performance, competency, professionalism, safety, respecting people, and getting the job done.
Which, like I said, is why we will always have a job in the Middle East... Good help is hard to find.
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the issue is never "expat" vs "local" ,keep this in your mind that
we have a Group of profesional expats that I am proud to work with.
Have fun with your nice sophisticated small brain that makes you look into others mistake
And problem And forget your own
s
Probably this is my last comment , its becoming childish and not usefull to talk to a pathetic
Guy like you . I wish Terry,Corne,Zvonko and Simon best of luck in the future.
Cheeers,
KooKi
the issue is never "expat" vs "local" ,keep this in your mind that
we have a Group of profesional expats that I am proud to work with.
Have fun with your nice sophisticated small brain that makes you look into others mistake
And problem And forget your own
sProbably this is my last comment , its becoming childish and not usefull to talk to a pathetic
Guy like you . I wish Terry,Corne,Zvonko and Simon best of luck in the future.
Cheeers,
KooKi