ATC History
Chrevon now is it? Plus I seem to have acquired an extra letter on my surname!
Mal Ross' goalkeeping abilities were second to none until his 'accident' such that the RAF Sopley football team borrowed him. Course it was during a match between 23 Course and RAF Sopley, and their excuse was their goalie wasn't getting any practice so could we swop!
Mike Baggaley is sadly no longer with us; Nigel Wilshaw resigned and went to Ronaldsway but I met another ATCO called Nigel Wilshaw a few years back working at Leeds.
Jabberwok/windowjob, any ideas where the others are?
Mal Ross' goalkeeping abilities were second to none until his 'accident' such that the RAF Sopley football team borrowed him. Course it was during a match between 23 Course and RAF Sopley, and their excuse was their goalie wasn't getting any practice so could we swop!
Mike Baggaley is sadly no longer with us; Nigel Wilshaw resigned and went to Ronaldsway but I met another ATCO called Nigel Wilshaw a few years back working at Leeds.
Jabberwok/windowjob, any ideas where the others are?
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Malcy Ross was on B Watch at Heathrow, a bigger bunch of lunatics you'd be pushed to meet!
I never met Bob Gosling but he looks like Barry Winch's twin...?
Great pity about Mike B - a really nice bloke taken in his prime. I also worked with Gordon Bain and Al Barnes, but I'm slowly getting over it!!!
I never met Bob Gosling but he looks like Barry Winch's twin...?
Great pity about Mike B - a really nice bloke taken in his prime. I also worked with Gordon Bain and Al Barnes, but I'm slowly getting over it!!!
What you can't see on the graduation photo is Roger Carter and Brian Toomer, 2 college instructors lurking behind us, who tried to get in on our photo.
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Ian Mckinnon retired from LATCC, Bob Gosling LATCC (retired?), Dave Brindle retired from MACC, Kenny Alexander ATC Investigations SCATCC (from MACC closure) Malcolm Ross retired from CC, Pete Weller PB (still?), Tony Mason, Ron Paris, Steve Clarke all Scotland somewhere last known, Nigel Wilshaw NS (at least a couple of years ago), Gordon Bain was at KK but doing a lot of photography, Dave Gallop last known in the canteen at LATCC (retired?) Al Barnes was at LL but believe he went to TC, Terry Clark retired from UF , Jim Ward went to H&I but not heard of his whereabouts for some time, Mike Baggely sadly no longer with us.
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Al Barnes and I did a liaison visit to Scatcc c'92 travelling up by train. Just after departing Euston,settled down with the newspaper,I heard this muttering from my right.I thought Al was meditating or something,but it kept on so I put the paper down,looked at Al and he appeared to be talking into a dictaphone. 'What you doing?' says I,a bit reluctant to disturb some sort of religious trance, 'Taking numbers' He says,'It's easier than trying to write them down 'cos I might miss some - I'll listen to the playback when I get home'. The penny dropped - He was a trainspotter! You could have knocked me down with a feather!
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"He was a trainspotter" Well at least he's improving himself - he used to be a plane spotter when he started as an ATSA! We were on the same assistants course.
He also used to fly the plane for the army parachute lot at Netheravon and I used to jump (he did as well later) at WOG and one day I visited Netheravon when Al was flying the Porter. Up at altitude and I was getting to the door when Al turns round says "All Right Mal" and whacks full right wing down - well it wasn't the exit I'd planned and I swear I could hear him laughing as I went. I just hope he heard me swearing at him as I tumbled upside down.
He also used to fly the plane for the army parachute lot at Netheravon and I used to jump (he did as well later) at WOG and one day I visited Netheravon when Al was flying the Porter. Up at altitude and I was getting to the door when Al turns round says "All Right Mal" and whacks full right wing down - well it wasn't the exit I'd planned and I swear I could hear him laughing as I went. I just hope he heard me swearing at him as I tumbled upside down.
Terry Clark actually retired from LF, the UF having been dropped in about '95 when UM (Manston)and SV (RAE Bedford) were also dropped.
So apart from poor old Mike, plus Jim Ward and Pete Weller, it looks like we've all thrown in the towel as far as being ATCOs is concerned.
I know one of us is now a FISO, any others?
So apart from poor old Mike, plus Jim Ward and Pete Weller, it looks like we've all thrown in the towel as far as being ATCOs is concerned.
I know one of us is now a FISO, any others?
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Cadets.
Now listen here you lot.
It is worth remembering that the most successful cadet course ever was No 28.
We lost just a single person during the whole cadetship and me and my wife were the only married couple to have completed one.
So, stick that in your pipe and worship us.
Actually, we where challenged by 26 course to a game of football in Bouremouth and they were really pissed off when they realised that in the first half we had 13 players on the field.
During the second half after they had discovered how we had cheated I was the only one to score a goal which was unfortunately in my own goal.
This did not stop me being covered with hugs and kisses from our team.
Bridget didn't speak to me for the next day.
Also, the LATCC B Watch hockey team took on the Barclays bank team, what a big mistake that was.
They came with all the correct gear whilst we turned up in our everyday stuff.
They best moment of the game (which we lost) was when Maurice Minchin headed a sure fire goal from them using his head without a safety helmet.
I always thought that effected his mental decisions after.
Happy days.
John Platt.
It is worth remembering that the most successful cadet course ever was No 28.
We lost just a single person during the whole cadetship and me and my wife were the only married couple to have completed one.
So, stick that in your pipe and worship us.
Actually, we where challenged by 26 course to a game of football in Bouremouth and they were really pissed off when they realised that in the first half we had 13 players on the field.
During the second half after they had discovered how we had cheated I was the only one to score a goal which was unfortunately in my own goal.
This did not stop me being covered with hugs and kisses from our team.
Bridget didn't speak to me for the next day.
Also, the LATCC B Watch hockey team took on the Barclays bank team, what a big mistake that was.
They came with all the correct gear whilst we turned up in our everyday stuff.
They best moment of the game (which we lost) was when Maurice Minchin headed a sure fire goal from them using his head without a safety helmet.
I always thought that effected his mental decisions after.
Happy days.
John Platt.
John, I'm sure that when we were on the Area course late '74 I taught you to say 'my wife and I'!
At 27 and then 28th birthday during the course I felt so much older than you 28 scallywags! Mind you it was even worse in '83 when I did the APC Radar course with all the layabouts on 45 course.
Brian Wildey
At 27 and then 28th birthday during the course I felt so much older than you 28 scallywags! Mind you it was even worse in '83 when I did the APC Radar course with all the layabouts on 45 course.
Brian Wildey
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John and I were at Watton in 1971 and he left to go to Brussels
Heard yesterday that ne of Eurocontrol AI 1 died in Ireland last week,; Tony Weymes who left ATC and was a Professor of Languades
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Hi Brian.
Yes I did remember what you told me but I stopped doing it a long time ago.
We are now seperated.
What are you doing now?
I an now heavily involved in the music industry. Promoting, publishing, touring, hosting festivals and being a complete idiot.
I can get you into festivals free or you can listen to me on Radio Caroline under the name "John Patrick" where I play heavy rock. I am also the keyboard player in two bands.
Praying Mantis and Lost weekend, however both don't have a keyboard player and I can't play a keyboard but I do get into big gigs with them.
More happy days.
JP.
Yes I did remember what you told me but I stopped doing it a long time ago.
We are now seperated.
What are you doing now?
I an now heavily involved in the music industry. Promoting, publishing, touring, hosting festivals and being a complete idiot.
I can get you into festivals free or you can listen to me on Radio Caroline under the name "John Patrick" where I play heavy rock. I am also the keyboard player in two bands.
Praying Mantis and Lost weekend, however both don't have a keyboard player and I can't play a keyboard but I do get into big gigs with them.
More happy days.
JP.
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xpz67 -
You may know me, I'm an ex-LL L/Op now living in the se of France.
In view of your current occupations, can I ask you to send me a PM ( I can't send one to you, so it tells me) to establish contact .
I may have a contact that would prove beneficial to you both.
MD
You may know me, I'm an ex-LL L/Op now living in the se of France.
In view of your current occupations, can I ask you to send me a PM ( I can't send one to you, so it tells me) to establish contact .
I may have a contact that would prove beneficial to you both.
MD
John
I got early retirement from LL in 2000 'cos of ankylosing spondylitis & fibromyalgia. I had left DM in 86 before you and BP went there.
I remember seeing you at DM when LL C Watch did a LV in March 1990. If I recall after CAA lost DM contract you went into an office somewhere & then a medical EG?
Had a few years living in France but came back last year and now in Herefordshire.
Had a good day last month at LATCC C Watch 'Old Coggers' reunion organised by JB. My first main mentors there, Geoff Wright on wings & Gerry Broad radar - both looked well considering ( me as a U/T that is), great to see lots of faces I hadn't seen for years!
All the best, Brian Wildey
I remember seeing you at DM when LL C Watch did a LV in March 1990. If I recall after CAA lost DM contract you went into an office somewhere & then a medical EG?
Had a few years living in France but came back last year and now in Herefordshire.
Had a good day last month at LATCC C Watch 'Old Coggers' reunion organised by JB. My first main mentors there, Geoff Wright on wings & Gerry Broad radar - both looked well considering ( me as a U/T that is), great to see lots of faces I hadn't seen for years!
All the best, Brian Wildey