ATC History
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Hi Bren,
Never new Colin Fone, but there was a chap worked for BMA as a flight despatcher in the office across from the ATC FBU. Blonde hair, I think his name was Paul and I believe he became an ATCO at EGLL, in the mid 80s.
Never new Colin Fone, but there was a chap worked for BMA as a flight despatcher in the office across from the ATC FBU. Blonde hair, I think his name was Paul and I believe he became an ATCO at EGLL, in the mid 80s.
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Colin started at EMA just after me in 1990-very happily retired and yes still flying as much as he can.
On a sadder note Ray Murmann passed away last week, funeral is on Thursday, trying to let as many of his Ex colleagues know as possible.
On a sadder note Ray Murmann passed away last week, funeral is on Thursday, trying to let as many of his Ex colleagues know as possible.
More than just an ATCO
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Before i left for Euro, at the end of the 60's, there were a couple of female cadets in the same digs in Bournemouth. One, Scottish(?) went to Bristol i believe; the other was going out with Nigel Greene.
I previously had the privilege of training Pete Withers on ATCA duties at LATCC when he first joined. Let's just say he failed to impress. He was probably also unique in being charged with dangerous driving and speeding on a push-bike.
I previously had the privilege of training Pete Withers on ATCA duties at LATCC when he first joined. Let's just say he failed to impress. He was probably also unique in being charged with dangerous driving and speeding on a push-bike.
Foxy Loxy
Yes I did, I joined his watch when I started at LL in 86. John moved onto Thames a while later. IIRC he retired c94. A gentleman, in both senses!
Yvonne Pope
My contact tells me she is still on 'the perch' and a member of the Dan' Association. He has contact details for anyone who needs them.
BW
Yvonne Pope
My contact tells me she is still on 'the perch' and a member of the Dan' Association. He has contact details for anyone who needs them.
BW
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JR
Me too . . . D watch LL circa 1976 and beyond . . with Jack Hollis as skipper.
Totally agree with Brian . . JR > a true gent and a scholar in both senses
. . . and also Stephanie (mentioned earlier) . . Ahhhh themswerethedays
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Totally agree with Brian . . JR > a true gent and a scholar in both senses
. . . and also Stephanie (mentioned earlier) . . Ahhhh themswerethedays
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I remember working SFD with Pete Withers one day - he got into it with a frog on the other end of the line over separation. I heard him say (heatedly) to the frog 'We have a letter of agreement......' and then he turned to me and said (crestfallen) that the frog had told him 'he spat on your letter of agreement......'
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ATC History
I worked with Trudy Hollis for a long time when we were on B Watch at LATCC, so did Jack as crew chief.
The last I heard from them was a few years ago but I know he is on this list and does post a few answers.
My question to him is, why did I learn all the bloody answers to the 200 questions on the annual validation quiz but he never asked me a question?
On the same subject another examiner only asked the same question. What is CAVOK and you got three attempts at the answer!
Going back to my book on the history of ATC in the UK. You will be pleased to hear that I have been rejected by numerous publishers because I will not remove the names who caused the deaths of so many aircrews when they would not embrace or accept that some organisation was needed on the ground to help bomber crews to find and land at a safe airfield.
On one night 43 bombers and crews crashed and lost their lives because there was nothing available to help them.
I have all the information and proof to name names. I also have the response from Churchill when he knew what had happened.
Things have not changed. ATC has been the unwanted child of too many ministries who have no idea of what we are doing now and what happened in the past.
If you want to contribute to telling the true story of ATC. Please get in touch.
I do want to contact those who took part in the early years of ATC after the war. Why was the first London centre called the Listed building? Because it was raised up using railway sleepers to keep it level.
Why do we have west bounds levels as even and those opposite as odds? It goes back to 1939 in the US.
Why were the early airways called Green one etc. I have the maps and evidence.
If you have any knowledge or contacts on the subject, I would love to interview them.
I want to tell the whole history of the British ATC system. I can't do it without your help. So please, contribute whatever you can whoever it small you may think it is and it will place another piece in the jigsaw.
JP.
The last I heard from them was a few years ago but I know he is on this list and does post a few answers.
My question to him is, why did I learn all the bloody answers to the 200 questions on the annual validation quiz but he never asked me a question?
On the same subject another examiner only asked the same question. What is CAVOK and you got three attempts at the answer!
Going back to my book on the history of ATC in the UK. You will be pleased to hear that I have been rejected by numerous publishers because I will not remove the names who caused the deaths of so many aircrews when they would not embrace or accept that some organisation was needed on the ground to help bomber crews to find and land at a safe airfield.
On one night 43 bombers and crews crashed and lost their lives because there was nothing available to help them.
I have all the information and proof to name names. I also have the response from Churchill when he knew what had happened.
Things have not changed. ATC has been the unwanted child of too many ministries who have no idea of what we are doing now and what happened in the past.
If you want to contribute to telling the true story of ATC. Please get in touch.
I do want to contact those who took part in the early years of ATC after the war. Why was the first London centre called the Listed building? Because it was raised up using railway sleepers to keep it level.
Why do we have west bounds levels as even and those opposite as odds? It goes back to 1939 in the US.
Why were the early airways called Green one etc. I have the maps and evidence.
If you have any knowledge or contacts on the subject, I would love to interview them.
I want to tell the whole history of the British ATC system. I can't do it without your help. So please, contribute whatever you can whoever it small you may think it is and it will place another piece in the jigsaw.
JP.
Last edited by xpz67; 2nd Jun 2011 at 21:01.