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Troon way is quite nice. Ayr is sadly not that nice these days. "
It really depends on your budget, and you cant really generalise on any one location.
South Ayrshire is virtually crime free compaired to the inner cities in the UK.
There are multi millionaires and those less fortunate in Ayr, likewise in Troon. Some are nice folk, some not so nice, but the latter are very much in the minority
Troon way is quite nice. Ayr is sadly not that nice these days. "
It really depends on your budget, and you cant really generalise on any one location.
South Ayrshire is virtually crime free compaired to the inner cities in the UK.
There are multi millionaires and those less fortunate in Ayr, likewise in Troon. Some are nice folk, some not so nice, but the latter are very much in the minority
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Personally go for somewhere in Glasgow. It's close enough and you have large amenities.
However there are plenty of sea side villages around Prestwick which are lovely, and expensive to live in.
However there are plenty of sea side villages around Prestwick which are lovely, and expensive to live in.
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Dont forget its about 50-60 miles round trip(albeit motorway/dual carriageway) to commute to Prestwick from Glasgow.I am sure that adds up through the year in petrol/diesel costs.
Seems Troon seems to be the idyllic setting,yet its the place that one of NIs most "infamous" sons chose to flit to.
I would harbour a guess,but I reckon that everyone will say their own area is fine.Why would people live where they dislike?
All the towns/villages that have ATCO/ATSAs living in them must be ok,otherwise they wouldnt be in them!
Seems Troon seems to be the idyllic setting,yet its the place that one of NIs most "infamous" sons chose to flit to.
I would harbour a guess,but I reckon that everyone will say their own area is fine.Why would people live where they dislike?
All the towns/villages that have ATCO/ATSAs living in them must be ok,otherwise they wouldnt be in them!
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Its Troon for me...been here 30 years and no complaints......That said I am lancashire born and bred and proud of it, however just returned from a week at parents on the Fylde coast (Lytham) and I know where I would rather be.....and its not Lytham!!
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I see there is a cunning plan being hatched by the SNP to replace Scottish council tax with a local income tax of 3p in the £.
Will this be another incentive to "embrace the change"?
Will this be another incentive to "embrace the change"?
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Current Band C council tax South Ayrshire - £1363.09 per household
Local Income Tax (top scale ATCO2) - approx £2400, my wife will have to pay her own LIT on top at 3% of her earnings.
Another axe to grind now for those making the move north? I wouldn't blame them.
Local Income Tax (top scale ATCO2) - approx £2400, my wife will have to pay her own LIT on top at 3% of her earnings.
Another axe to grind now for those making the move north? I wouldn't blame them.
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LIT vs South Ayrshire Council Tax
South Ayrshire Council Tax Charges 2008/09
Band Council tax Sewerage West of Scotland Water Total
A
£769.30
£134.22 £118.80 £1,022.32
B
£897.52
£156.59 £138.60 £1,192.71
C
£1,025.73
£178.96 £158.40 £1,363.09
D
£1,153.95
£201.33 £178.20 £1,533.48
E
£1410.38
£246.07 £217.80 £1,874.25
F
£1,666.82
£290.81 £257.40 £2,215.03
G
£1,923.25
£335.55 £297.00 £2,555.80
H
£2,307.90
£402.66 £356.40 £3,066.96
A 2 bed flat in Prestwick attracts Band E - 4 bed detached house in Ayr Band G.
I don't think many Band2 top of scale ATCOs will be choosing a home in Band C.
Does the LIT still look so bad? Remember that not everyone earns 80K.
Band Council tax Sewerage West of Scotland Water Total
A
£769.30
£134.22 £118.80 £1,022.32
B
£897.52
£156.59 £138.60 £1,192.71
C
£1,025.73
£178.96 £158.40 £1,363.09
D
£1,153.95
£201.33 £178.20 £1,533.48
E
£1410.38
£246.07 £217.80 £1,874.25
F
£1,666.82
£290.81 £257.40 £2,215.03
G
£1,923.25
£335.55 £297.00 £2,555.80
H
£2,307.90
£402.66 £356.40 £3,066.96
A 2 bed flat in Prestwick attracts Band E - 4 bed detached house in Ayr Band G.
I don't think many Band2 top of scale ATCOs will be choosing a home in Band C.
Does the LIT still look so bad? Remember that not everyone earns 80K.
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Cleo, you're correct I went the wrong way! Assuming Band D is the average, then the bands most ATCOs will be going for will be D-G i'd think. I'm going to pay £600 more per annum, then my wife will have to pay her 3% on top. I do think it looks bad You're also right in saying that not everybody is top of the scale ATCO, I stand guilty of speaking from an ATCOs point of view and assume that all ATCOs will eventually reach top of the scale.
I'm going to hope that there are some spanners thrown in the LIT works....
You're also right in saying that not everybody is top of the scale ATCO, I stand guilty of speaking from an ATCOs point of view and assume that all ATCOs will eventually reach top of the scale.I'm going to hope that there are some spanners thrown in the LIT works....
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Spanners and a thread drift
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I'll see your spanners and raise a you a wheel wrench!
My income will never reach even half way to the 80K mark so I''ll be considerably better off under the SNP's LIT
I'll see your spanners and raise a you a wheel wrench!
My income will never reach even half way to the 80K mark so I''ll be considerably better off under the SNP's LIT
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The biggest financial problem moving from Manch to Scotland is the fall in house prices in England and the fact that prices in Scotland are just peaking now.
If your home in Manchester was worth £400,000 last year, it is now worth about £360,000, and will be worth about £325,000 this time next year( 4 months before PC opens). If house prices had continued to rise over this 2 year period instead of falling, your property would have been worth £480,000 in September 2009. That's a loss of £155,000. That is if you can sell your house!
The days of swapping your 4 bed detached in England for a castle in Scotland are well and truly over now.
If it was me, I would rent until the recession is over, hopefully sooner than later. ( assuming negative growth over two consecutive quarters)
Another possible issue is the Local income Tax (3-5 %)which the SNP are trying to introduce. A double income ATCO salary would equate to an anual bill of about £6,000 in "Council Tax" irrespective of whether you live in a castle or a tent
NATS sorry "nats" ( another Barron great idea) would be better spending money on additional relocation packages to have sufficient staff to man PC , rather than "beer and curry" love in sessions in Glasgow followed by "rope swinging -we are all part of the same team " antics in the Lake District. Incidentally I believe we are now called Team "A" and "B" according to the latest training announcement
If your home in Manchester was worth £400,000 last year, it is now worth about £360,000, and will be worth about £325,000 this time next year( 4 months before PC opens). If house prices had continued to rise over this 2 year period instead of falling, your property would have been worth £480,000 in September 2009. That's a loss of £155,000. That is if you can sell your house!
The days of swapping your 4 bed detached in England for a castle in Scotland are well and truly over now.
If it was me, I would rent until the recession is over, hopefully sooner than later. ( assuming negative growth over two consecutive quarters)
Another possible issue is the Local income Tax (3-5 %)which the SNP are trying to introduce. A double income ATCO salary would equate to an anual bill of about £6,000 in "Council Tax" irrespective of whether you live in a castle or a tent
NATS sorry "nats" ( another Barron great idea) would be better spending money on additional relocation packages to have sufficient staff to man PC , rather than "beer and curry" love in sessions in Glasgow followed by "rope swinging -we are all part of the same team " antics in the Lake District. Incidentally I believe we are now called Team "A" and "B" according to the latest training announcement
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"The biggest financial problem moving from Manch to Scotland is the fall in house prices in England and the fact that prices in Scotland are just peaking now. "
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I think you will find the "Scottish Peak" is only occuring in Edinburgh and Aberdeen. Everywhere else, including South Ayrshire is falling just like the rest of the UK. Always bear in mind that the media tend to generalise when it comes to stactistics about Scotland i.e. they view the country as a whole instead of dividing it up into regions like they do with England.
AF1
I think you will find the "Scottish Peak" is only occuring in Edinburgh and Aberdeen. Everywhere else, including South Ayrshire is falling just like the rest of the UK. Always bear in mind that the media tend to generalise when it comes to stactistics about Scotland i.e. they view the country as a whole instead of dividing it up into regions like they do with England.
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I think you will find that quality homes £750K and up in South Ayrshire will sell and are selling within 2 or 3 weeks. Mostly bought by folks from Glasgow and Edinburgh. I dont know about middle range homes though, and yes you could be correct
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Scottish and Manch will have two training teams one will be A , and the other........... wait for it.......... B
This might change though, as the "B" team may feel just that
. But, my senior source thinks that "management" might scrub this idea (and to think of the money they spent thinking of this little gem 
) and just have one team to stop any "division", so we are all part of the same team 
Confused yet ?
I have every confidence that management will get this right in the end, after a few get together sessions in the local 5***** Hotel with no expense spared on our behalf
This might change though, as the "B" team may feel just that
. But, my senior source thinks that "management" might scrub this idea (and to think of the money they spent thinking of this little gem ) and just have one team to stop any "division", so we are all part of the same team Confused yet ?
I have every confidence that management will get this right in the end, after a few get together sessions in the local 5***** Hotel with no expense spared on our behalf
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Does anyone know how many ATCO/ATSA staff are needed to man PC , assuming its fully electronic by 2011 ? How many are actually coming up from Manchester?
Apparently the numbers will be revealed by management in December this year
Apparently the numbers will be revealed by management in December this year
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The biggest financial problem moving from Manch to Scotland is the fall in house prices in England and the fact that prices in Scotland are just peaking now.
If your home in Manchester was worth £400,000 last year, it is now worth about £360,000, and will be worth about £325,000 this time next year( 4 months before PC opens). If house prices had continued to rise over this 2 year period instead of falling, your property would have been worth £480,000 in September 2009. That's a loss of £155,000. That is if you can sell your house!
The days of swapping your 4 bed detached in England for a castle in Scotland are well and truly over now.
If it was me, I would rent until the recession is over, hopefully sooner than later. ( assuming negative growth over two consecutive quarters)
If your home in Manchester was worth £400,000 last year, it is now worth about £360,000, and will be worth about £325,000 this time next year( 4 months before PC opens). If house prices had continued to rise over this 2 year period instead of falling, your property would have been worth £480,000 in September 2009. That's a loss of £155,000. That is if you can sell your house!
The days of swapping your 4 bed detached in England for a castle in Scotland are well and truly over now.
If it was me, I would rent until the recession is over, hopefully sooner than later. ( assuming negative growth over two consecutive quarters)
Holding on to your house and renting in Ayrshire may allow you to ride it out and still have your house when prices start to rise again.
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If it was me I would definitely rent. Lots of people will be letting properties also, as they cant sell them, so its a good time for cheap deals.
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remember estate agents are struggling now and will tell you anything for a sale
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remember estate agents are struggling now and will tell you anything for a sale
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