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The Board approved the CEO's request yesterday, the BIG ANNOUNCEMENT today to the OIC's and MATS. I'm sure we'll all know by this afternoon.
So will this stop you from going to the Sandpit??????
So will this stop you from going to the Sandpit??????
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From what I could gather it's a scale increase for all PATCs 5 years or more with only JS and CT being offered the lock in. I could be wrong.
If you sign for 2 years you get two lumpsums at the end of each year, if you sign 4 years it gets divided up monthly as an allowance.
If you sign for 2 years you get two lumpsums at the end of each year, if you sign 4 years it gets divided up monthly as an allowance.
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My apologies to the PE, DBN, EL and other PATCS who also get the retention bonus. Now that all is as clear as mud this is what I now understand.
Three seperate 'lock ins' were created. One for JS, a second smaller for CT and a smaller for the rest, all percentage based on 'cost to company'.
Now if you sign this you also qualify for a new Pensionable salary scale around 50 K more than the present one. After spending almost 10 years getting the salary scales into some sort of consistent uniformity they go and cock it up completely with this complicated madness. I have a real problem with a new set of Pensionable salary scales being created. If not illegal (unfair labour practice) it's down right immoral and unethical and I'm sure we'll be getting feedback from Solidarity pretty soon. You cannot move controllers with the same years experience to a higher payscale because they're willing to sign a lock in.
This all applies only to PATCs on the 5 year scale and up. The guys in CPT not planning to leave are absolutely thrilled with it. Of the 8 planning to go, it might sway 3 into staying. Mission achieved?????? I think not.
What happened to management getting people to stay because they want to, instead of locking them in with yet another rediculous contract?
They have however managed to pay an internationally competitive salary atlast, and at the same time lock the guys in.
N2N, we're still going mate.
Three seperate 'lock ins' were created. One for JS, a second smaller for CT and a smaller for the rest, all percentage based on 'cost to company'.
Now if you sign this you also qualify for a new Pensionable salary scale around 50 K more than the present one. After spending almost 10 years getting the salary scales into some sort of consistent uniformity they go and cock it up completely with this complicated madness. I have a real problem with a new set of Pensionable salary scales being created. If not illegal (unfair labour practice) it's down right immoral and unethical and I'm sure we'll be getting feedback from Solidarity pretty soon. You cannot move controllers with the same years experience to a higher payscale because they're willing to sign a lock in.
This all applies only to PATCs on the 5 year scale and up. The guys in CPT not planning to leave are absolutely thrilled with it. Of the 8 planning to go, it might sway 3 into staying. Mission achieved?????? I think not.
What happened to management getting people to stay because they want to, instead of locking them in with yet another rediculous contract?
They have however managed to pay an internationally competitive salary atlast, and at the same time lock the guys in.
N2N, we're still going mate.
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Hey Cripton, 180 in third, snap change into fourth and its feels like an elephant sitting on your chest. Gonna kill myself in that thing. Hang on baby, I don't know how fast this thing goes/big it gets.
Easy answer to those in CT and JS not eligible. Threaten to resign and Wrenelle's your auntie. Then you qualify. makeapullup, anything we should know about? Will PM you when ADSL is up again.
Easy answer to those in CT and JS not eligible. Threaten to resign and Wrenelle's your auntie. Then you qualify. makeapullup, anything we should know about? Will PM you when ADSL is up again.
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Just heard this from up North in the desert!!!
You guys thinking of looking for better shores!!!!
Don't even think of ABU DHABI APPROACH!!
Some Local Arab Supervisor was working on approach with a SA controller doing co-ord for him. The Arab guy had some reduction wich caused a CA audio warning while the SA was busy on the phone with co-ordination. The Arab guy then made some remark as to why there was an alarm as the traffic was seperated (5nm). The co-ord ATC then did not even paid attention to it. Another SA controller in the radar room apparently saw this reduction and told the co-ord ATC of it. A third SA controller was in the tower and it is not sure if he saw this incident but these 3 guys were discussing it later and was not sure if they should report it or not. On the 3rd day, the 3rd ATC reported the incident and all 4 ATC's were called into the managers office.
All 4 of them then had to write reports on what they saw.
The Arab ATC was suspended from duty.
Two days later, the Arab ATC was given remedial training and the 3 SA guys faced a disciplinary hearing.
The Co-ord ATC was fired without any clear reason.
The ATC who saw the incident in the radar room was also fire with no clear reason.
The Tower ATC received a warning.
DO YOU CALL THIS JUSTICE?????????
General Manager = ex Zimbabwe-Namibia ATC, ex SA College ATC
Deputy ATC Manager = Ex SA ATC
2 Local ATC Managers
So, you still think the grass is greener on the other side????? Yeh... much more S....T, that's why. We have our problems here in SA, but not the same as the above!!
Think again
VIVA ATNS
You guys thinking of looking for better shores!!!!
Don't even think of ABU DHABI APPROACH!!
Some Local Arab Supervisor was working on approach with a SA controller doing co-ord for him. The Arab guy had some reduction wich caused a CA audio warning while the SA was busy on the phone with co-ordination. The Arab guy then made some remark as to why there was an alarm as the traffic was seperated (5nm). The co-ord ATC then did not even paid attention to it. Another SA controller in the radar room apparently saw this reduction and told the co-ord ATC of it. A third SA controller was in the tower and it is not sure if he saw this incident but these 3 guys were discussing it later and was not sure if they should report it or not. On the 3rd day, the 3rd ATC reported the incident and all 4 ATC's were called into the managers office.
All 4 of them then had to write reports on what they saw.
The Arab ATC was suspended from duty.
Two days later, the Arab ATC was given remedial training and the 3 SA guys faced a disciplinary hearing.
The Co-ord ATC was fired without any clear reason.
The ATC who saw the incident in the radar room was also fire with no clear reason.
The Tower ATC received a warning.
DO YOU CALL THIS JUSTICE?????????
General Manager = ex Zimbabwe-Namibia ATC, ex SA College ATC
Deputy ATC Manager = Ex SA ATC
2 Local ATC Managers
So, you still think the grass is greener on the other side????? Yeh... much more S....T, that's why. We have our problems here in SA, but not the same as the above!!
Think again
VIVA ATNS
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So, you still think the grass is greener on the other side????? Yeh... much more S....T, that's why. We have our problems here in SA, but not the same as the above!!
Think again
Listen Buddy
Seems like you've never been outside your back yard !! Don't know who your snitch is on the other side, be carefull for what you say !!
So, you still think the grass is greener on the other side????? Yeh... much more S....T, that's why. We have our problems here in SA, but not the same as the above!!
Think again
Listen Buddy
Seems like you've never been outside your back yard !! Don't know who your snitch is on the other side, be carefull for what you say !!
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The definition of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result every time. Now, the question is - who's the stupid one, employee or employer?
