Etihad Cadet Pilot Programme

[AdamLT]

Hi all

Firstly, I apologise if there has already been a post about this. After a quick search I couldn't find one.

Has anyone looked on their website (http://careers.etihadairways.com/ehire/english/index.aspx) with regards to the scheme? I am just filling out my application now but where it mentions about putting NA in the boxes that don't apply to you (Employment history - that is previous airline positions/ Current Licenses, etc) but doing this doesnt allow you to save this information.

Anyone else had difficulties?

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[Borg]

Ad,

I've had exactly the same problem and got no idea how to sort this out.
Has someone found a way round this?

[AdamLT]

the email address they give you in need of assistance ([email protected]) does not seem to work either.
and it is difficult to find an alternative email for them.

if all else fails, try and contact them via the 'feedback' button at the bottom left of the page.

hopefulyl that helps...but anymore suggestions, please feel free to share.

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[no sponsor]

Have you tried putting in your last non pilot employment, and just putting 0 hrs in the boxes?

[AdamLT]

the application is for the Cadet Pilot Programme..and I have not worked for an airline before. it looks like it's a standard application form for all flight crew positions, and extra info is given to 'aid' the cadets who will be applying.
And yes, i have tried entering '0' in the spaces.

[the_boy_nb]

I managed to submit it. I had to put in 1 hours flying, some made up dates for starting and finishing in all the mandatory field boxes. I then inputted NA for the airline I had worked for, NA for the shcool etc.

If you put n/a it won't work.

I am hoping they will relaise that this data is false to just get the form to submit. Good point is it may mean they have had few applicants!

[TwoTone-7]

Wasnt there another thread on this. My mate applied a few days back and was told - It's for UAE Nationals only. :ugh:

[djfingerscrossed]

How interesting and exciting that an airline is actually offering a sponsorship. 12 of them as well! Is there for UAE nationals only? Get applying guys/gals

[UNCLEUCHU]

Hey guys, very true.. if u try applying, it re-directs u, and matters worse, they have said that u should not write u have any flying experience when u have not flown, BUT the system will not allow u.. Lets keep trying again and again, and hope all works well..:D

[airbus eng]

I have been looking at the scheme as well.

I notice that the expiry date is 31/12/08. Does this mean they will contact applicants only after this date?

[Bungles]

I have a question about the cadet scheme, on the Etihad website is says cadets will receive a stipend of aed6000 per month (around £800). Is this whilst you are doing the 18months of training? or is this your salary for the 72 months (6 years) you commit to working for them?

[shuchim]

is that cadet program not for new one which have no previous flying expireance in there form they ask about emloyer and a/c type and than mandotry .then how to fill it up .pls guide i am from india and havedone a/c maintenance engineering and is presently in go air as apprentis.

[link_142]

anyone heard back yet from etihad? apart form the automated response! :p

[99jolegg]

Interesting programme Etihad are undertaking.

I can't find a FAQ page there, am I missing it?

I'm curious about in the 6 years you must work for them after completing training, whether you can be based in London rather than Abu Dhabi? Also, how easy (and how much £££) is it to transfer the UAE General Civil Aviation Authority (GCAA) ATPL to the JAA ATPL?

[Mister Geezer]

Why on earth would you want to live in London rather than Abu Dhabi?

The conversion process to JAA from GCAA will be fairly lengthy I suspect!

[pt_flyer]

Why on earth would you want to live in London rather than Abu Dhabi?

With a high of 36 in April, imagine how it will be in the summer.

[99jolegg]

Because I'd rather live in London :ok:

[AdamLT]

Finally managed to get my application off today.
So it's just a matter of listening out for their reply now.

Hope everyone gets it sorted :)

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[121ace]

instead of 0 you have to put in 1 and NA does work. Does anybody know when we get a reply with regard to phase 2?

[roll_over]

I'd imagine you would get bored of going to hotel pools and air conditioned shopping centers.

But this looks interesting, I would certainly like to work abroad for a few years before I settled back down in England.

Maybe I will apply, although I have uni for the next 3 years, if I were succesful I doubt they would hold a place for that long, hopefully it'll be open in 3 yrs time, it's either that or OAT:)

[djfingerscrossed]

Don't forget CTC buddy. Keep ALL your options open given your age. How about cadets and RAF?

[roll_over]

For sure all options open, forgot about CTC and RAF would be a last choice.

AED 6000 is the salary to be paid during training right? £800 a moth isn't going to get you a lot over there if it is a salary, even it is tax free!


What is the GCAA licence, I can't imagine it isn't as respected as a JAA one, what is the conversion process like?

[djfingerscrossed]

If your thinking your gonna be able to train with Etihad and then simply walk away to a different region it isnt gonna happen I'm afraid. They will be expecting loyalty and to be fair once your over there I don't think you'd actually contemplate coming back. It's lovely! (no doubt the salaries are massive too)

As for license authorities it isn't a case of respect or the like it's more to do with procedures et al. Conversions are possible and shouldn't be too expensive I'd have thought. Probably a few grand.

With regards to salary it'd be very nice to get paid whilst you train. Most of us are having to live on savings or go asking the banks for loans. Be grateful for small mercies my friend

[bushpilot2001]

Don't worry buddy! Just fill in all the required information. I am sure that they won't consider you inadequate for the job because of a coma or because you were no able to insert NA in their form. I spend a really loooong time between yesterday and today filling their form too!!!
Had even to do it as Cadet Pilot because there is no other way within their web page for an experienced pilot to apply as FO to the company... and as far as I am concerned that is the only way to apply .

If they choose you for an interview it will be because of your experience and maybe because the guy or girl who reads your name likes it!!! and decides to drop you a line or give you a call!!

Good luck man!

:ok:

[djfingerscrossed]

2008 and continuing for the forseeable future. If you read Flight International (get it free at work woohoo lol) there are substantially more details. The first group has already started but I believe this might have been in addition to the others they are looking for by means of the new scheme

[ZaaZoo]

Well, I have applied two days ago...hopefully they are sifting through the massive paper chase as this seems to have been spread pretty wide....over the river and through the woods to Etihad we go!

[AvEnthusiast]

You guys have already started thinking of conversions. Yet there is to be selected.

[Speedbird715]

WOW... the first new fully sponsored cadet program since... what... 1963? :} The only thing that's keeping me from hitting the 'submit' button is lack of information on a few critical things.

So... what we don't know:
Assessment -> E.g. where will it be, what to expect & how to get there?

Fleet -> What will the cadets start on? AFAIK Etihad operates all sorts of Airbusses + 777-300ERs... long haul right away?! Normal roster + F/O salary as seen on PPJN?

Base -> Is this a ticket to the desert or would it be possible to be based in say FRA or LHR? (which would make this even more interesting)


What we know:
- 18 month ATPL course in the UAE
- UAE CPL IR + frozen ATPL
- Bonded for 6 yrs after training
- Company will pay AED 500k (€85k / GBP 65k) for training (complete cost?)
- Company will pay AED 6k (€1k / GBP 800) per month during training
- Accomodation included


Well, if anybody can find additional details on this - please be so kind and post it here!! ;)



Edit... googled a bit. It seems the training facility will be Horizon Internat'l Flight Academy, located at Al Ain: http://www.horizonuae.ae/introduction.php

And here's a short article from Flight Global: http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2008/03/14/222212/etihad-launches-global-pilot-cadet-scheme.html

[ZaaZoo]

Well I belive thay have the smaller A320 as well.

[SpamFritters]

Some of the website is and some isn't for me.

Guys.. have you seen the pay though?!

The FO pay for Etihad equates to about £6000 sterling per year. Not good if you ever wanted to move back over here!!!

[Ouseburn]

SpamFritters: The job description states that whilst in training, cadet pilots will be given a salary of AED6000 per month - roughly 800 quid.

[Ouseburn]

If you do a job search for flight crew and click on one of the FO listings, you'll be able to see details of first officer salary etc.

Bear in mind, upon the completion of training cadet pilots will be given the position of second officers and not FOs!

[poison]

Dear Gentlemen the 12 cadets have already been selected. Interviews had been conducted over the past few days. This program is only open to those currently working in Etihad or those who are children of EY employees. Perhaps in the distant future you may be selected. Have a nice day.

[AvEnthusiast]

You just poison and go. That's not fair don't scratch people's feelings. any proof for your statement?

[metallicwings]

Hey POISON, how do u knw that they r already through with the process for recruitin the batch for June? Did u hear it frm sumwhere, as in sum rumour, or hav any article supportin ur statement?:=

[roll_over]

Well it would make sense that Etihad employees kids got first go, you have to look after your own. But then what was the point of calling it a global scheme if it is only internal?

[Ouseburn]

If this were really the case, I would at least expect Etihad to contact all applicants and inform them of this... or even just update the application status on their careers website?! hmmmm :confused:

[121ace]

Guys are you all really that stupid to listen to this bafoon by the name of 'poison'.

We are talking about an internationally recognised company here, who sponsor the likes of Chelsea FC and Ferrari F1.

Even if it was the case that the 12 cadets had been selected (which I firmly believe it is not), they would have at least sent system generated emails telling the rest of us that we have been unsuccessful.

Another member of this forum contacted the Etihad Head Office and they informed him that they scheme may infact be delayed by a month or so, most probably due to the large quantity of people applying.

So obviously the final 12 have NOT been selected yet, otherwise they would have told him so.

[noflare]

Wow Im amazed at the confidence and arrogance of some of you guys!
Not only do you want a cadetship, you also want overseas basing!

Take a reality check folks...this is a great opportunity for some of you, something you wont get at home...but dont push your luck!:ugh:

In house candidates are being interviewed/selected at the moment, the rest will follow.
Good luck

[splashbrooke]

Info on the pay:
http://www.pilotjobsnetwork.com/factfile.php?id=xgbsgu1tfepecbmx11ugqguk2cbt8t5vz493pyms2xu2 y4pmv4u

[121ace]

I thought In house candidates had been selected already and that it now simply down to the processing of chossing the 12 global cadets

[121ace]

no the in house candidates are national citizens, who should have already been selected. Now they need to select 12 global candidates.

[121ace]

I know its not any of my business. But why on earth would you want to convert from GCAA to JAA especially if you obtain it from the likes of etihad, you're probably going to have more money and a relaxed lifestyle working in the middle east.

Anyways with regards to your question, I think you have to take the 14 groundschool exams and re-take the IR test and also demonstrate your competency on the aircraft you are type rated on

[121ace]

right :ok:

[splashbrooke]

Thank you for the reply.

I was mearly interested on what it would take to change back. You never know what circumstances may arise. So I think it is wise to consider my options.

[121ace]

Yes I suppose so. I was under the impression that it was part of your definite plans to obtain a GCAA and then to convert at a later stage. Anyhow..:cool:

[diyosa29]

the website has been changing details for the past 5 months...before it was stictly for etihad employees and relatives of employees age 18-29 yrs old...now i am checking the website and it changed totally. the info about it being exclusive for etihad employees and relatives is no longer stated and the age limit is changed to 26...anyway i will have my 1st assessment on the 28th of april and i assure u guys i will get the right info for u so as not to make a big confusion.goodluck guys.:O

[121ace]

Hey diyosa29 I presume that you're one of the UAE nationals who is hoping to start in June providing that you pass all assessments. May I ask how old you are?

[AvEnthusiast]

Yeah, let's not lose hope. As you might have seen that from the begining there were people posting strange statements and we found that some were even not reading the articles carefully. As there is a national scheme as well, so we presume that the intake which these people are talking about should be the inhouse one, and then the global one must come out. Although we can expect delays.

[121ace]

In my opinion No because it may almost work against you, in the sense that they have already clearly outlined what they require from you. By giving them a cover letter etc they may perceive you as one who cannot follow simple instructions i.e. attach CV ( and that was all they required, unless ofcourse you have a medical certificate etc)

[djfingerscrossed]

Why not send the lot?
Class 1, Basic disclosure, logbook, cv and covering letter? Personally I would only ever send what is requested. People are always very busy and will not like having to trawl thru' lots of bits of info to get what they need

[SpamFritters]

Do as it asks.:8
You are already filling in an online form and are just attaching the CV to go with it (mainly to show your interests and eduation aspect I suspect) so do that... imho.:sad:

I am going to be attaching a CV and a medical cert.:E

:suspect::ooh::*Spam:*:ooh::suspect:

[skhan11]

Hey, to be honest I attached one. Why not?

Look at the large magnitude of applications they are getting. Anything that shows them that you are willing to go 'above and beyond' I think you should. Maybe that the cover letter will separate your file from the rest. The way I see it is it will show how interested you are, and with many of us having little or no experience in Aviation, the cover letter will probably tell a 'tale' of how and why you want to enter the field of aviation and fly for Etihad. (And maybe perhaps that you can write English.)

[skhan11]

I should also add to the above note that, they probably won't spend more then a minute reviewing your application. As someone in the previous post said they might just like your name and give your application more time over someone else.

The thing that I can't seem to understand is HOW you shortlist for a position like this with so many applicants and so little requirements. i.e. 18-26, medically fit, high-school diploma...

[AvEnthusiast]

Well, in the major factors of the creteria they have stated that 18-26; that's fine and then "medicaly fit" which means we have to upload our medical certificate too and at last "...diploma with proven high grades in maths and physics", Does it mean we have to upload our transcripts at these stages of the applications as well?

And SF, I have pasted some info regarding my background in this thread, so tell me what's your impression.:rolleyes:

[Alin83]

Hey guys I applied yesterday for the scheme, has anyone around the world (excluding UAE) received any replies???

[fredduciel]

Hi alin83,
don't worry, no news since the automatic one when I filled it on 4th april , I'm from France
, take sometime it may come soon for you too. good luck , have a nice day
Fred

[Alin83]

Hi Fredduciel
thanks for the reply, I received the automated reply that they've received my application... but did you get anything else after that??
Have a nice day

Alin

[roll_over]

Just wait for a reply from them:rolleyes: We all know as much as you do.

[Alin83]

Age limit is 26 and should be open to everyone around the globe, there are different opinions in this forum but I hope this one is the right one

[cx252]

wondering how many candidates waiting for respondence. 300+ ?

[MarcoFF]

I would guess over 1000 applications.

[arms2serve]

Hi everyone,

If someone is a full time student what should he give as a reference?

Thanks.

[tom775257]

Good luck guys.

I worked on an Wet lease to Etihad. My month long exposure to Etihad was a good one, but I wouldn't want to live in the UAE for various reasons. The company has a great fleet, good service levels and a competent workforce. Most importantly for me, the crew food was very good:ok:

If you enjoy shopping there are some malls, some good restaurants, night clubs and bars are all a bit strange - all within hotels. Going for a night out on the lash in the Sheraton..hmmm. At the moment housing is tight and they are sending people out to 'moon base alpha' in the sand.

On the A320 which is where I guess you would start, I was flying places like Damascus, Cairo, Muscat, Karachi, Bahrain, Tehran etc.etc.

[cx252]

i heard that people in UAE are very difficult to get online.
What i have been gathered , you are not allowed to use Yahoo Messenger, facebook, youtube, Skype , Window Live messenger etc. And internet expenses are pretty high when comparing to rest of world. are they true?

[tom775257]

Yes you get a lot of 'this site is blocked due to being against the political, moral and religious beliefs of the UAE' or something to that end.

You wouldn't be able to download Skype, however if it is already installed it works fine. MSN messenger works fine in the UAE. It was a fun game seeing how much porn you could get past the filters :}

Regarding internet prices, they were very expensive at the hotel I was staying at but relatively cheap at the local internet cafe. Because the Dirham is tied to the US dollar, it is very weak at the moment, so as a tourist visiting it is relatively cheap to live in the UAE, but not if you are working there. That said wages at Etihad for full pilots are very good, plus accommodation is provided etc.

http://www.etisalat.co.ae for internet details

[metallicwings]

Well Frnds, what I feel is that having a Class I medical may nt be a prerequisite bt always a preferred option. Moreover, they may nt filter u out if u dun hav the medicals done yet bt they shall obviously require u 2 undergo medical test with the company n that can be a deciding factor. Although I dun think it shall be of much difference 2 those who hav undergone strict medical tests already.

All the best guys!!!:ok:

[AvEnthusiast]

When will they call us? thinking about it all day and night made my BP go up.

[cadet_hani]

Hi i've also applied in etihad for this scheme. I Just want to know that what Kind of interview I can expect from etihad?

[metallicwings]

Hey guys, every1 must hav received an application no. eg. EY/08/04/04050 is my app. no. the last four nos. indicates my sequence of application. That means I'm the 4050th applicant for the post. So, if we can post in our application nos. then probably we can asses an aproximate no. of candidates applied for the post, that shall surely be helpful, wht say guys!!!:uhoh:

[Bungles]

Metallicwings, I reckon you are more likely to be the 50th candidate. I think 08/04/04 represents the date i.e. 4th april 2008, maybe that is when the application process was opened? Did you apply early?
Or maybe you are the 50th person who applied for a job on that particular date? My own application is down in the 400's (or 4400's),
Cheers Bungles

[filmen]

Hi all,
I'm trying to find out some details about how this sponsorship works, more precisely, about the contract terms. I know this may be a little premature at this point, but the sooner I (and probably everyone interested) get this info the better.
According to their website,

The company shall be entitled to recover from the cadet on demand the sponsorship cost on a pro rata basis (i.e in proportion to the sponsorship cost incurred by the company to sponsor participation in the programme).
If, prior to the successful completion of the programme the cadet:
-fails to comply with any of the employment obligations and training attendance requirements;
-is for any reason expelled or prohibited from continuing the training and/or fails to complete the training within the period specified;
-fails to pass satisfactorily any final GCAA examination given by the training provider as per the GCAA regulation and as a result participation in the programme is discontinued;
-fails to achieve the minimum requirement of the training; make unsatisfactory progress with any aspect of the training or fails to display the necessary aptitude for the training; or discontinues, suspends or terminates training at any time before completion of the programme.
The company shall be entitled to recover the sponsorship cost in full (and subject to any right of set off as stated in the joining contract) if after completion of the programme, the cadet fails to comply with any of the stated obligations in the joining contract.

Does this mean that the cadet, if, for any reason, is unable to successfully complete the training, will have to pay the sponsorship cost in full? Isn't there any kind of Protection Plan (as in the NetJets/OAT scheme, for instance)? If anyone knows something more specific about this issue, please let me know.

Cheers! And good luck for those applying. :)

[PA28R]

hello everyone i applied for etihad cadet program, so was just wondering if any one has applied to that program, if yes then how was it and if you can share some experience.

thanks

[metallicwings]

Hey Bungles,

Did u apply on 04th? Well I think its nt the case coz I had applied on 09th and the same is contrary to what u said, bt u knw sumthng, I wud love to have ur thought right. Anyways all the best!!!

[121ace]

hey metallica, I dont think the numbers are related to the order in which you applied. Mine is in the 4800's and I applied before you on the 8th April 2008.

[metallicwings]

That's exactly what I wanted to say, its nt related to the date bt it has to be applicant's sequence so, expecting more than 5000 odd candidates. 12 out of 5000, phooohhhh:ugh:

[rmoller]

I have not applied yet, I would apply for the 2nd class (at the end of this year) anyway, but I was wondering: does everyone has a round number like 4000 or 4800, maybe the last zero is there just for fun or something...

[PA28R]

mine is 6250:mad:

[rmoller]

again, with a zero....

[AdamLT]

mine is 03253

[metallicwings]

A '0' at the end always holds its value although, its gud 4 every1 if the last '0' is fake!!!

[rmoller]

damn, adamLT has a 3 :(...

[malirm]

Mine is 08/03/09052...I've applied on the 20th of March...just after hearing the news (Registration was opened on the 19th of March), I think it is a random No. generated from the System not only for us but for all pilots applying (Professional & Non Professional) OR Maybe for all applicants of any Dept., anyways..if they contact me...I'll inform all PPRune guys applying.

[PA28R]

just wondering why is it good to have 0 at the end

[cirrus81]

did anyone got an email after the first automatic generated that you have submitted ur application. stating your application has been shortlisted for the program or no?

[AdamLT]

we shouldn't be worrying about the application no's guys. :)
keep hopes high

[fredduciel]

Hi everybody !
Mine is no08/04/00588 , on 4th of april , got the automatic response and still this date : nothing ! it's urgent to wait !
have a nice week end you all !
Fred.

[link_142]

hey cirrus81,

did u get a shortlist reply?

[cirrus81]

yea about ten days ago recieved an email stating my application has been shortlisted thats it.

[metallicwings]

Hey Cirrus81, that's awesum yaar. If u dun mind may I knw ur qualifications so tht we can measure our chances for the same. U just gt a mail stating that ur application has been shortlisted or they called u? U hav any1 knwn in ETIHAD? I'll be glad to get a reply. All the best buddy!!!:ok:

[delay]

i applied on the 30th of April,

Im 20, PPL from dubai with my CPL on the way over 200 hours dual time and 65 hours PIC time,

currently studying Economics at University, A Levels in Maths, Economics and History at grade A

think my chances are quite slim, too many applicants with a lot of them already having Multi-IFRs.

[cadet_hani]

Well Congrats cirrus! Cirrus would you like to tell your qualification to us and basically where r u from ?

[leyahl]

Hey delay. Thats awesome- I'm studying economics and econometrics and thought I'd be the only person from this sort of background- similarly I did Maths, Economics and Geography for A Level. No flight experience though- fingers crossed!

[AvEnthusiast]

Hi Cirrus,

Please tell us you were kidding. Should we wait or that means the shorlist process has ended and we are not there.:{

[dubble_dubble]

Hey Cirrus,

can you possibly copy and paste the email they sent you? (w.o the perosnal details ofcourse!)....just want to see what to expect if they do possible email!

As others asked, what qualifications do you posses if you dont mind me and others asking.

The problem with the cadet program is that we dont know what the minimum req. are for applicants.

Thanks in advance:ok:

[cirrus81]

well all it said was ur application is shortlisted for the program on this date so and so. i am a first officer with an airline. flying ATR's at the moment. so i don't know how this scheme reali works.

[cirrus81]

and course a degree in aeronautical engineering.

[AvEnthusiast]

Hi Cirrus,

Although we would be glad if you paste the e-mail here, but in case you don't want then would you just tell us if there has been other info in the e-mail regarding interview, other stage, dates or whatever?:8 Well I have been typing this while you had posted the above two. Anyway, now when you go to "my workspace" on etihad website what's written infront of your application status?

[cirrus81]

no it doesnt mention anything its computer generated..nothin its update view or withdraw das all.

[AvEnthusiast]

Hi dbldbl,

You said you have been to AUH, and you would make query regarding this. Any updates?

[dubble_dubble]

AvEnthusiast,

No info yet but rest assured, i will be getting very reliable info as my father works in aircraft maintanence right next to etihad in an MRO.

I actually went up ther 2 days ago and got a security pass and sat in the new Etihad A319 and A320 aircraft and took pics in the cockpit and stuff....very nice and new jets:ok:

WIll let you know ASAP

dbl

[Take-Off05]

hi everybody.

i want to apply for the scheme too.
maybe someone can answer the following questions. did u attach your school diploma to ur application? my school diploma isnt in english (its in german). do u think that I should let it be translated or isnt it necessary?
and how is the structure of an english curriculum vitae? do I have to mention in it why I want to become a pilot and etc? Or just only biographic data?

Thx in advance
Take.off

P.s: sorry for my english!

[homonster]

the max. requirement they want is nothing above a PPL. as cirus stated hes a first officer for some airline + his resignation to present us the email, therefore i highly doubt the reliability of his info.
as far as i know, there is nothing, 100% nothing at the moment accoding to our buddies in the 'middle east' forum.

lets just wait and try not let anything stir up the feeling inside yourself.

peace

[cirrus81]

mate i don't need to lie about something like that.. i got better things to do in me life then jus come ere and talk rubbish.. and believe whatever satisfies ur soul easy way..

[delay]

homonster, i would think again before calling cirrus an unremmitting falsifier of fact...

i tend to believe him, why wouldnt etihad shortlist him? If i were an airline, I would CERTAINLY prefer someone with the flying skills and re-train them to the companys standard operating procedures.

Getting someone fresh with no flight experience is ALWAYS a risk, when I was doing my PPL, I knew a guy who did over 70 hours and never went solo :(! some people just arent meant to fly....

As for his resignation to submit the email? its his decision, personally if I were shorlisted for anything it wouldnt be the best Idea to submit confidential information between you and the company on the internet which it would have clearly stated :

CONFIDENTIALITY / DISCLAIMER NOTICE : This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. Etihad airways or its employees are not responsible for any auto-generated spurious messages that you may receive from Etihad email addresses. Etihad Airways

Lets all be PATIENT, im sure we'll here from etihad in a month or two....

[thundercaptain]

Do you know if there are only 12 vacancies?, I've just applied yesterday and I was number 808, statistically talking the chances to be there are less than 1%.

Does anybody knows how many aircraft will Etihad recive during the next year?

luck to everyone here !

Just another question for those whose applications are shtlisted, what languages do you speak?

[malirm]

Hi...please check your application status in your Etihad Careers Account...at first it stated "Applied", but now...it states "Under Review"...they are reviewing the applications at this stage.

NOTE: They didn't send me an email informing me that my application is under review (you have to log in)...hope they shortlist my application...& urs' (ALL), I'll keep you informed for any updates.

[CruiseControl_007]

Malirm,

Are you a UAE National? When did you apply?

I've just checked my status and it's still displays "Applied" and I applied around about a month ago.

As I've read in a previous post I'm pretty certain Etihad are giving high priority to those who have family already working for Etihad and then those who live in the UAE and then foreign applications. :(

C'est La Vie.

[AvEnthusiast]

Well I assume our friend might be from UAE nationals, as his location also displays that and he might have applied for the national scheme and they have started reviewing the national scheme one, afterward which comes the global one. (you see how we are convincing ourselves, what to do? :ok:)
and CruiseC, if they give priority to those you have already mentioned then there is no place for us, as there are only 12 vacancies. Anhaanh!But they had said they will have three intakes through out the year, so that means 36 total or 12/3 means 4 each intake. what do you think?

[malirm]

CruiseControl 007 & AvEnthusiast

I am not a UAE national, but born & living in the UAE, I'm from a Middle-Eastern Country (between Turkey & Lebanon)...I've applied on the 20th of March and I don't know anybody in Etihad Airways (why should I join you guys if I know the results of my application?), I'm a student at Emirates Aviation College (Dubai) enrolled in the Higher National Diploma in Aerospace Engineering, worked on A330-200s...etc. as a part of my On Job Training & thats what they liked about my CV...so they are reviewing it, trust me they would preffer a European Passport than a Middle-Eastern this is because you don't need a lots of Visa processing time & (as I can see from my side) you don't have any family responsibilities/strong connections as a normal middle eastern employee does.
GOOD LUCK...just calm down...I might not get it

[antes56]

for malirm

How do you work on A330 at 19 years old?

[malirm]

To antes56 (http://www.pprune.org/forums/member.php?u=203148)

Thats sooo easy to work as a student engineer, specially if the college is certified by the GCAA and is owned by the airline & the course includes 3 months of On Job Training (Not only at Emirates Airlines (you have the choice), but also in Atlas Air, Air Arabia & Etihad [as an employee of Abu Dhabi Int'l Airport, where Etihad make the maintenace there as Etihad don't have their own Engineering Section [it is the flag carrier that uses the government owned Airports all over the UAE])...we are considered as CHEAP staff at this stage, where they don't pay me when working. Moreover I get assigned to do specific tasks under the supervision of well experienced & licensed engineers (TYPE RATED)...and get assigned for things that I had studied about in the college and applied (workshop sessions) and achieved a mark over 85% + attending the subject's teacher daily interview (with the trainees where he is free to ask me about the subject face to face.

& by the way...I'm 19 years & 6 months old...6 months differ in such a field.

Please open the link below & view the info about the College, but please lets stick to our discussion (Etihad Cadet Pilot) not me!!!:

www.emiratesaviationcollege.com (http://www.emiratesaviationcollege.com)

[roll_over]

Like he said it was part of his on job training. Seems some people want to shoot people down as soon as they get any info from etihad.:ugh:

There really is no point speculating until people start to receive offers for interviews or rejections. As Malirm said he applied early and his application has only now been reviewed I would think that we are all in for a very long wait!

Anyway, the more posts there are in this thread the lower our chances of getting onto the course are:}

[JohnPits]

Hi I started filling out the application yesterday but didnt have time to finish.
I saved it but now it wont even let me Log in. Any one else had this problem??

[Jodiekeyz]

Hi people, just to let you know that i am through to phase 2 that will take place in June. Just to save you asking i have a degree, no hours....have worked in the middle east in a different capacity though...

:ok:

[thundercaptain]

121ace I belive you are right :D

[Jodiekeyz]

obviously your not through to phase 2 of this global cadet programme since the maximum age is 26 and infact not even the emirati national programme since the maximum age is 30 and it says below your user name that you are 32.

You are absolutly right 121ace as naturally i would enter my actual details into pprune and i would never make them up :} :ugh:

Fact is i am in the target age and i got an e-mail yesterday, ah well haters..:=:p

[AvEnthusiast]

No, now it seems that they have started shortlisting, but do they do the shortlising one by one and inform them or they shortlist the whole and inform them all together.

[CruiseControl_007]

Jodiekeyz,

What is involved in Phase 2? Have they invited you to Abu Dhabi to take the aptitude tests? When did you apply?

Cheers.
CC

[Take-Off05]

@ palks:

thank u very much for ur fast answer.

i have still one question. have anyone send a photo with the cv? and have anyone mentioned the grades of the A-level?

greetz
take-off

[thundercaptain]

yes I've practically filled every section and I've also sent the documents they ask for,

cv
medical
photo
passport

[Jodiekeyz]

You're only supposed to upload your cv

i'm waiting for the particulars on p2 then i will post..

[Too low]

Hi all,
In a lots of posts you're talking of the cv, but where do you see we can upload a cv??
In the documents list to upload, I can only choose, photograph, pilot licence, medical licence, copy of stamped log book, passeport copy...
Is it in an other category?

[EYZ]

Thr EY cadets program is already, there are 3 phases, phase 1, that has been running for some time is for UAE national, phase 2 is for EY Staff, this will be concluded within the next 2 weeks and the 12 staff will start in July.
Phase 3, which is the bit that applies to most of you, starts within the next few weeks,with a course date of November. People will be split into geographical groups and have their initial selection in one of 4 locations. Sucess there will result in you being brought to AUH for round 2.
Anything else on here is just rubbish.

[CruiseControl_007]

The instructions are clearly written at the bottom of the Job Details section.

I don't mean to have a go at anyone but it's amazing how many people don't read the instructions BEFORE filling in the application form. They want to be an airline pilot which mainly involves listening to or reading and absorbing instructions and yet struggle to comply with this simple task! :ugh:

[EYZ]

Read the other thread too, this is the current as of 6/5/08 situation with the cadet program.

[MidgetBoy]

How do you pronounce Etihad anyways? I feel so bad for asking this..

[BA6590]

Etihad is pronounced it-tee-had

[MidgetBoy]

thanks.........

[ZaaZoo]

This is a waste...Looks like its back to hitting the books.

If you want to get something done right...you've got to do it yourself.

forget Etihad, Emirates is better:D

[AvEnthusiast]

if they need to hire 100 pilots only this year then they need to intake more cadets.

http://www.gulfnews.com/business/Tourism_and_Travel/10211497.html

Hi ZZ, but Emirates do not have such a program.

[BA6590]

Has anyone heard anything back from etihad (other than the initial automated message)? i know that one person on this forum has, but anbody else?. The waiting game is killing me.

[.Aero]

I wouldn't call the auto response email a response at all!

I think there's a few emirati nationals on this thread who have applied thought the national cadet scheme. The world-wide cadet scheme is independent of the national scheme.

Emirates DO offer traditional sponsorship, BUT it is only open to UAE nationals. Training is done in Australia.

[FlightPath86]

Eh I think this question has been raised already but not answered...but would be slightly concerned on how easy it is to convert from GCAA to CAA/JAA? No doubt etihad great firm to work for but what if you wished to return to Europe eventually??? Is it possible or will it cost you an arm and a leg?

[CruiseControl_007]

FlightPath86,

A JAA licence is closely recognised in the middle east as a lot of the countries in this region are trying to standardise their licence process to closely follow the JAA standards due to its quality.

So to convert from a GCAA to JAA wouldn't be all that painful and can be carried out at a reasonable and affordable cost as opposed to converting from an FAA licence.

[delay]

i did my PPL in the UAE

the heat is nauseating! Piper had to add several pages to our perfomance charts because the temperature we faced were off the scale! dust storms and temperature inversions with strong winds seem to be the norm!

UAE's attitude towards general aviation is also really poor. All the airports including Al-Ain are international airports and priority goes to IFR traffic with controllers often known for bullying light aircraft!

More than that Horizon seems to be a relatively new school for fixed wing aircraft, lack of instructors and examiners are again quite common when training in the Emirates

I just hope this training program is efficient enough to combat bureacracy wthin the civil aviation authority and fkying school politics to make sure that 18 months is a realistic target to train pilots from zero to hero!

[EYZ]

The current EY cadets are in line to finish on time, after 18 months. Yes there are weather issues, however I doubt if you do it at Oxford or CTC, their weather is perfect, for very different reasons.
Initial selections, to choose who comes to which selection event are now taking place, news will follow very soon.
Places on the November course need filling!!:ok:

[skhan11]

Hey. EYZ how do you know of all this. If you don't mind me asking what is your source of information?

Also, you mentioned in your previous post that selection for the global scheme will be divided in 4 places around the globe. Do you happen to know them?

I did call Etihad last month and the only information they would give out is that shortlisting will begin in May. When I asked for more information they said we can only tell you what is on the website.

So again, quite confused on how the shortlisting is done (with the little requirements) and the huge pool of applicants. But I guess like everyone here, will have to wait and see how events unfold.

Cheers, & best of luck to everyone

[PA28R]

i dont know even know if we all gona get into etihad cadet scheme, i know people who have contacts are gna get in before us in abu dhabi, in aviation its always like this its not about your application, its all about who you know and this just piss me off, coz i am have lot of money on training and i know i am good :ugh:, and people who have contacts get in before everyone even though they fail there intial test, i dont want to say name but i did my training in melbourne, and there was student from saudi got in as second officer with only 250 tt in emirates flying 777, i mean what the hell and that person failed ppl twice and cpl once, i also applied for etihad cadet scheme coz i have no other choice, i cant afford to pay any more flying school to get more hours, i have been waiting and waiting for my application to show some freakin status and its same no message. i dnt know whats gna happen to aviation industry anymore.

[airfoil]

we're all in the same boat. it's just they have their advantage coz they know someone inside, but hey, don't generalize the aviation industry. :=
and you cannot deny the fact these things really exist (the whom you know, not what you know scheme)
we need experience to hone our skills they may be unskilled when they got in but through exp. they become skilled pilots.

[AvEnthusiast]

Hi EYZ,

I wouldn't ask you from where you get this information because the way you present it, it seems from reliable sources. What I would like to ask is that:
When the shortlisting for november course will happen? and While uploading CV I mentioned that soon I'll upload my current medicals, but now it's one and half month and I couldn't get my medicals because there is no aviation medical examiner in Afghanistan, so do you think that this can ruin my case?

[ZaaZoo]

It would have really been cool to meet some of you guys...would have made for a great laugh...all us wanting to get get selected so we can fly a bus:D

[antes56]

but what does it means?

[AvEnthusiast]

Hey 121,

What do you mean? Neve lose hope. I'm still trying to get my medical and upload it.

[BA6590]

Do u guys mean that without a medical the application wouldnt be considered?
and does anybody know if a uni education would be any benifit in the application process?

[dubble_dubble]

Yes yes, all it says on the site is to upload your CV and other personal detail.

dbl

[CruiseControl_007]

Well said 121ace...Bravo! :D

[AvEnthusiast]

Dear 121,

I have well read that. But, remeber that from reading a topic different poeple will have different perceptions. In my case, I have mentioned that while uploading CV I had promised to soon upload my current medicals, and while I couldn't do that for one and half month, I thought they will pretend that I'm not medically fit, and I'm sure every one gets curious about every odds and ends in these kinds of situations.

for eligiblity EY has stated on their website:
Eligibility
http://www.etihadairways.com/NR/rdonlyres/6516E6B1-A0D5-4C11-B419-B4E82E73344A/0/Gold_Line_01.jpg

• Age between 18 and 26 years
• Medically fit to fly
• Accredited secondary school diploma or higher with proven pass grades in Physics, Mathematics and English

Thus, they can be considered initial factors of shortlisting. So if you don't upload your medical, how will they know if you are medically fit (and what if there is nothing to show if you have ever passed any class of medical) I'm not saying that it is a requirement it's just my perception. And don't you think if along other things if you upload your class 1 medical, can at least support your shortlisting?
Regards,
Aventhusiast

[heli_port]

121 ace you're sounding like a complete ass yourself!

BTW your only supposed to upload your CV.

[Too low]

Yeah, you're right 121ace.
But a pilot must also be open minded, kind and ready to help... Not sacarstic or disdainful.
If you behave like that during the group test, as intelligent as you can be, no wonder you will have some troubles.... :hmm:

[Dannyc]

ace121,

there is absolutely no wrong in ensuring before any application process that an applicant is completely elegible to apply, including that they meet the required medical standards.

how stupid would your sarcastic ass look if you were short listed, passed the interview and selection process and failed at the final medical assesment.:uhoh: i am sure that at that point you would give a flying :mad:.

at any rate, where people are trying their best to get a position on a course to achieve their ambitions, and noting that nearly everyone on this thread is a 'wannabe' you should be providing each other with support and advice, not witty comments. looking through your posts on this thread, with your manner of communicating with people, you don't stand a chance of being selected untill you sort your attitude out. based on the little i have seen, I'd sit next to aventhusiast on a flight deck any day over you.:hmm:

[metallicwings]

hey splashbrooke,

You posted a thread on the Etihad Cadet Pilot Program stating that u r already through with another cadet scheme, can u pls give me the details of the scheme? I too have applied with Etihad, but would not mind getting into any other program because there will be so many applications with Etihad and my chances may be very very narrow. Hope to hear from you soon, pls!!!

[Dannyc]

did you mean arrogant... or ignorant?!:}

must side with splashbrooke, great big smile!:ok:

[heli_port]

guys and girls lay off 121ace; He's 18 and all hormonal! his post made me laugh to after a hard day at work! ;)

[malirm]

Hi....:)
Please Calm down guys, I applied for emirates aviation college (engineering Dept.) & they required the same qualifications...I joined and had the tests + medicals AFTER being selected & here I am (will graduate in Sept 08), Moreover, it is mentioned in the website:

Medical Examination

Cadet pilots will be required to undertake and pass the company’s standard medical and dental examinations prior to joining. Cadet pilots will also be required to undertake and pass the UAE government standard medical examination and the GCAA medical examination. Details will be given during a briefing prior to joining the programme.

(http://careers.etihadairways.com/ehire/english/careers/jobDetails.aspx)

This means...when your application is shortlisted, the company will ask you to go & do the Medicals prior to arriving to Abu Dhabi OR (Most Probably) they will do it for you (appoint doctors & Pay them)...this is just what I so with the Emirates Airlines "Emarati National Cadet Pilot Program".

I'm not trying to be on anybody's side...but I would consider a medical report as an advantage...but this won't have any effect on your application, as you will have to go throught the process again (even if you were a professional pilot who is transferring from an airline to another).

[heli_port]

I guess you are very lucky ace to straight into pilot training, so why an earth are you applying to the etihad program? :confused:

From your last post i can safely say that your maturity is lacking. I wish you and all others luck in their journey to the left hand seat ;)

[AvEnthusiast]

Gentlemen,

Please, let's not to be off topic. BTW, those who had received shortlisting confirmations, anything further than that?

[dubble_dubble]

aventhusiast,

i dont think anyone got shortlisted yet!

[heli_port]

Not expecting much from this Etihad programme and certainly isn't my main route - but hey.. if they offer me a place then rock on :)


But you won't accept as you have already paid the deposit for the november course at OAA! (otherwrise you will lose the 3k deposit)

I have just passed the skills assessment at OAA and have paid the deposit so even if etihad come back and say yes i won't accept.

121ace you seriously make me laugh! :p

[CruiseControl_007]

But you won't accept as you have already paid the deposit for the november course at OAA! (otherwrise you will lose the 3k deposit)

Surely it would make sense to lose the £3K deposit and save yourself £70K-£80K on training and accommodation costs with a garuanteed job at the end of it...right? :confused:

Just a thought...

[heli_port]

Surely it would make sense to lose the £3K deposit and save yourself £70K-£80K on training and accommodation costs with a garuanteed job at the end of it...right? :confused:

Just a thought...


Yup makes sense but personally now i have paid the deposit i am committed...

Oops what this? an e-mail for Etihad hummm

Edit:

Just got an e-mail from etihad saying i have got hrough to stage2, i take my above comment back wohooo

[CruiseControl_007]

Congrats heli_port...nice one! :ok:

Just wondering when did you apply?

My status is still displays "Applied" and I submitted my application in mid April. :(

[heli_port]

CC i applied when they first started advertising the program.

E-mail basically goes:

Dear Mr heli_port, thank you for applying for the bla blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Your app has progressed to the blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah we shall be contact soon to arrange a suitable time for an interview and assessment blah blah blah blah..

Keep an eye on your e-mails people..

Not getting my hopes up or anything..

[CruiseControl_007]

Cool. Presumably they started advertising in mid March which means that I may still have another month to wait. :{

heli_port...what does your status show now?

Just wondering...do they ONLY look at your CV as a criteria for selection and progression to stage 2?

I'm just trying to figure out how they would differentiate between each candidate...is it purely based on a single CV?

[heli_port]

CC i only uploaded my CV even though i hold a class 1 medical. Also i applied for the sake of applying as i am not within their specified age range (little older)

The status is still showing as applied, when it changes will let you know. I sent an e-mail back to etihad asking what the assessment consisted off and they have come back and said, maths, physics, interview, verbal reasoning etc. Once they have informed all the applicants they want to take forward to stage 2 they will let me have further details.

I'll give it a shot...

[CruiseControl_007]

hmmmm...thats weird...I would have thought that your status would have been "Under Review" or something else as per posts on other threads. :confused:

I don't know what to believe anymore. I think I'll just wait until some thing comes through.

[cadet_hani]

wait heli port the email u have recieved from etihad is confusing me! can you just copy n paste your email on this forum cuz i have also recieved an email stating that my application has been shortlisted thats it after that i didnt recieved any email from etihad! and wats the subject of ur email?

Thnx n will w8n for ur reply

[SpamFritters]

Come on guys - chill out.
No point in trying to second guess this - just sit back and relax.. if it happens it happens - just don't get your hopes up.
:bored:

[cadet_hani]

Does anyone know the correct email of etihad airways cuz [email protected] does not seems to work!

[heli_port]

hmmmm...thats weird...I would have thought that your status would have been "Under Review" or something else as per posts on other threads. :confused:

I can only tell you what is written on the screen at the moment, if it changes i will let you know.



wait heli port the email u have recieved from etihad is confusing me! can you just copy n paste your email on this forum cuz i have also recieved an email stating that my application has been shortlisted thats it after that i didnt recieved any email from etihad! and wats the subject of ur email?


i received the same e-mail as you did hani i however sent another e-mail asking them some questions and yes it was to the e-mail address you specified.

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?emailimage=8a9c08b5a1f9d3d8fd831e6a1844f527 - should be [email protected] (you spelt it wrong)

Come on guys - chill out.
No point in trying to second guess this - just sit back and relax.. if it happens it happens - just don't get your hopes up.
:bored:

My sentiments exactly. TBH i couldn't care less if i got in or not at the moment. I will attend stage 2 and see what happens. If it works great if not well i'm of to OAA..

[cadet_hani]

Heli port both emails u have written in ur post are same :yuk: and as you told us that assesment will be based on maths physics questions but i have heard from some one that questions will come from jepessen books!

[CruiseControl_007]

cadet_hani,

If you look closely at the second part of the email you will notice that you spelt "airways" incorrectly as "ariways". Not sure if this is a typo in the post.

But all that doesn't matter because I did email etihad (with the correct spelling of the email address as per previous post) and I received a "Notification Failure" message meaning that the email address is obsolete.

If you read the earlier posts in this thread you would have noticed that the alternative email address is [email protected]

But I didn't receive a reply from them and that was about a month ago. :(

[dubble_dubble]

Heli, ur the 2nd person claiming to have recieved some sort of email from etihad saying you got accepted...Phase 2? Where/When the hell was phase 1?

Yet you and the other person dont want to copy/paste anything.

I didnt even recieve an email when I 1st applied other than the auto generated email which is under the "My Messages" on the etihad website.

We need EYZ to settle this:ok:

[cadet_hani]

thnx CC but it does not seems to work i tried to mail him but i recieved delivery status notification failure well thnx for the help!

[heli_port]

Where/When the hell was phase 1?



Well i'm guessing the initial app was phase 1

Peace

Hani Kaif Haluk Habibi ;)

[email protected] (http://bl142w.blu142.mail.live.com/mail/ApplicationMain_12.4.0080.0327.aspx?culture=en-GB&hash=4248708826#)

[Rhyspiper]

I second that opinion! 121 sounds like a little boy with too much aggression:mad:!

[malirm]

Shabab, meen bya3ref 3arabi, ana sheft nas 3am yeketboo 3arabi, barki 3refna ba3ض aktar...narakom

I saw people who can speak my language in this thread...I wanted to know more about them...:rolleyes:

[121ace]

Cheers rhyspiper :ok:

[BA6590]

hi malirm i can speak arabic, but what do u want to know?

[leyahl]

Anyone reckon there's a significant reason that I'm not able to view my application any more on the my workspace page? My status still reads as "Applied" though. I'm just scrabbling for a bit of hope I guess...

[metallicwings]

hey that has been happening to me as well, any1 else?

[agent.oen]

As this airline is in the UAE, I wonder whether conditions will be similar to those in Emirates (see link below)...

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=327570

Might make you think a bit harder about it.

[cadet_hani]

alhumdulilah ana kois heli port kaifak itna? ish ikhtabarat? cheers dude meet you soon in abu dhabi;) inshAllah! ana mou min arab ana sakin fill jiddah but basically paki national lolz wat abt u ?

[121ace]

aye oye cadet hani, pakistan mein sey kidar sey ai ho?

[hjmemon]

guys, my application doesnt have status information....any one else with this problem.....any help.......

[leyahl]

Also, why does the etihad login hate apple computers so much. Ghar!

[BA6590]

hjmemon when did u submit ur application?

[hjmemon]

well i applied on 13th april,,,,,,but it never showed any status....

[cadet_hani]

karachi sai yaar wat abt u ? Im a CPL/IR holder

[121ace]

meray waaldain jhelum, punjab se aye hein, lekin main yahan england mein buchpun se ra raha hoon.

[malirm]

Ento met2kdeen men el emails (Phase 2) walla kethbah, shoo 3andkom shahadat & when did u apply & mata estalamto el emails...if u r comin to Abu Dhabi & don't know where to go or stay...you'll be more than welcomed into my home...:)

[dubble_dubble]

kathabeeen BIG TIME

[punit]

i have applied to etihad just today but what about you guys how long has it been marlim.

[punit]

do reply me in english or hind not arabic thank you. just to say i used to live near abudhabi before and do have some relatives there as well

[punit]

skhan 11 where is your application up to ,and any way guys do you know whether those 2 who got to their phase 1 have they gone to do training in abudhabi or they doing something else.

[punit]

hi ADAM LT i am so exited to apply to this cadet pilot programme and hope i get it, just wanted to know that have you had any reply from etihad or any thing. and if yes how long does it take.

[cadet_hani]

shukraan ya marlim wallah inta nafar miya miya ;) when ever ill b arriving to abu dhabi ill let u know but im sure that etihad airways will arrange sumthin 4 us but thats 4 sure that ill meet you thnx n happly landings

[rmoller]

shukraan means thank you =D
Inshalah I'll be selected for the etihad cadet programme

the 2 words/expressions I know in arabic =D =p

[skhan11]

Hey Punit,

My application status is the same as everyone else's. Just simply "Applied". I did call them up early this month, and the only information they gave out was that they would start shortlisting this month (May). Maybe it would even extend into June.

Oh, and no one is past phase 1 unless phase 1 is simply "Applying", and that I hardly doubt it is.

Cheers, and come on people English is the preferred language. This is not a Bollywood forum.

[SpamFritters]

Actually "Phase 1" is often what the application process is called on many different schemes. :}

[skhan11]

Whatever phase 1 "actually" is, the fact remains that no one got shortlisted. Therefor, no one made it past phase 1 because the "shortlisting" hasn't been done.

[ZaaZoo]

This whole thing is a crapshoot!:(

But I hope i get the job:8

[punit]

skhan 11 do you think that they would concider ND L2 aviation studiesfor the application and 15 hours of flying

[skhan11]

Dude, I am not an Etihad Employee. I don't have an inside scoop for you, though I wish I did. I know as much as everyone else on this board.

But yaa, personal opinion, go for it. Why not? You have nothing to loose by writing down your qualifications/experience. (It's a good thing)

I just hope that everyone gets a fair shot at this, and that it's not only internal hiring for this program. That would be an extreme bummer. All this anticipation and excitement, hope we all get at least a fair chance.

[passionate.aviator]

what are the chances of people without any flying experience getting into this program. i see that many people with license and experience are also applying.

[AvEnthusiast]

Or what if you figure the question like this. What are the oppurtunities for people with other aviation field background?

[adsSW]

Someone mentioned quite early on in the thread that they are having housing difficulties for staff? I have applied to this scheme and have been doing some research, I have founnd that Ex-Pats are NOT allowed to buy property in the Emirate of Abu Dhabi, unlike Dubai. Ex-Pats can only rent?

Of course Etihad provide company accomodation but where is this, what is it like, who is it with (another law I have found is that in the UAE you cannot live with a member of the opposite sex unless you are married!?)

What I have read about the internet screening, lack of freedom of speech (media) and the fact that it is an offence for an Ex-Pat to say anything remoletely condescending about a national. Also, take a look at this http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2008/02/08/british-tourist-jailed-in-dubai-after-police-find-speck-of-cannabis-on-shoe-89520-20312333/

I don't want to come accross as disrespectful to any other culture or religion here, I am a Police Officer in the UK and consider myself to be well travelled and somewhat cultured. However, the UAE do state they are a 'free' country, however I have seen some articles recently that have left me concerned as to whether or not I want to live there.

Anybody with more knowledge or currently in the UAE, can you enlighten me on this please?


Thanks

[malirm]

I was born, lived in Abu Dhabi for almost 20 years...& now studying in Dubai...I confirm that it is not likely for an Ex-Pat to speak in POLITICS, as this country was built on a Politics Stability...if politics act the way it acts in Europe or US...this country will go into a mess (not my idea, somebody working somewhere in here said it)...thus Petrol Prices will Double...Triple up...& this is what US, Europe & the Far East countries don't want...so they left everything as it is.

The Police are VERY friendly over here, but most of them are not good english speakers...if you've done anything wrong or even Looked like that, you might be asked (interrogated) then Left OR Jailed for sometime for some good reason...don't know about their work & how they do that, but if you compare it with how UAE Nationals are treated in Heathrow Airport or JFK Airport...IT IS NOTHING...I visited NY in Feb. 08, & had a lots of "extra processing" time (I lost my other flight to NC)...why? because of my Arabic Passport.

About Housing; Etihad has some difficulties in the housing in ABU DHABI (not AL AIN - cadet pilot trainig Area-), Etihad is building one of most Luxurios residences in the Middle-East called Abraj Towers where over 3000 EY staff will be situated near the airport, while the others are situated infornt of the Sea in Abu Dhabi Island.

Away from these points, it is a good country to work in, get to know more people from MANY countries, live a Luxurious & very safe life (LOW Criminal records). Trust me AVIATION personnel in this country are WELL paid & appreciated...but nothing is as perfect than somebodies mother (Native) country.

GOOD LUCK

[adsSW]

Malirm, thank you for the quick reply, that has cleared a few things up.

The new Etihad housing block is descibed here http://www.uaepropertytrends.com/ptrends/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=2741

It looks amazing!

[CruiseControl_007]

One has to respect other cultures when in another country. If you are not comfortable living in such an environment then it is best to consider this before applying to such a scheme.

[dubble_dubble]

AdsSw

Abu dhabi is not europe! I lived there for 14 years myself. The people are not "open minded" ... Another thing i really dislike is that there are NO FEMALES THERE! Hoenstly i did not see much females there. I googled this and on wikipedia i got "abu dhabi has the highest gender imbalance in the world"!!

So you better be planning on importing a wife, or finding one in dubai :ok:
I think you can buy property now, or what is know as "99 year lease" whihch means you dont exactly own the property , but you can hold it for 99 years or somthing like that.

I still like Abu dhabi b.c it is my hometown pretty much I have friends and relatives there.

Hope this helps.

dbl

[punit]

heli port, so have you asked that pilot guy of yours about the cadet p[ilot programme and just tell us what he told you.

[punit]

guys i have not got into the sponsership and thats because i havent got my ppl, they require full ppl and medical one, so most of us wouldnt stands a chance. and only the people with PPL, CPL would get through this programme they also so said to me that if i do my PPL and go onto CPL then only they will take me on

[PA28R]

How do I contact etihad Hr is there a number that I can call or email

[punit]

careers.etihad.ae

[dubble_dubble]

punit,
copy and paste the email they sent you. I highly HIGHLY doubt you are telling the truth...theres almost 10,000 applicants. You either get shortlisted, or not . You will recieve a generic message/email whether you got in or not .

I know people have been getting emails, but this just sounds too funny:=

[metallicwings]

Hey dbl dbl,

It may be possible that Punit got the detailed information after mailing to the email posted by Punit earlier. Although, Punit, mark it that post-shorlisting mail is an computer generated mail and does not provide a reason for the denial.

Hey Punit,

Pls confirm as how did u get to knw the reason for the refusal?

Harsh times, even I'm out!!!:*:(:{

[passionate.aviator]

hey guys my application status shows nothing. infact there is nothing called status. yesterday it showed status = applied. now it doesnt shows anything. its blank. what does it mean??

[punit]

chetan787 check your mails in the etihad my messages you must have a email of them.

[punit]

guys i rang their manchester office and then they gave me their london head office address where i wrote a letter to them on last friday stating that were is my application up to and whether I need to do additional training and they sent me a letter saying that they want some one who has already got full PPL uk or USA license and medical class 1, should atleast have 60 hours of flying as they need some one who has got good experience.

[BA6590]

hi all my status has changed to under review, anybody else had the same thing happen to them??? and how long does it take to go from "under review" to getting the final outcome?

[Too low]

I am "under review" too since today.
Wait and see...

[punit]

syazji,
what qualifications have you got

[adsSW]

Yeah, I am under review too now! Eeeek! So nervous, yet still excited!

I don't have a PPL, so I doubt I will get through judging on what Punit has said! But, then what is the point of having a cadet programme and only accepting people with PPLs? Doesn't make sense to me, but oh well, will wait and see!

Good luck to everyone!

[BA6590]

not much with regards to flying thats why i doubt i will be considered.
i am 1 year away from graduating as a doctor...but have always wanted to fly so fingers crossed.

[dubble_dubble]

ooops sorry punit, u never mentioned that you mailed them and they mailed you back!

I thought right off the bat they told you all that stuff!

my bad:)

Ive heard of ppl getting rejection emails, has anyone recieved an acceptance email? Or one that simple states you have OFFICIALLY been shortliste etc.etc?

[dubble_dubble]

IMHO, getting shortlisted just means that you meet the minimum requirments. Ie age, education, etc. Thats why Im not surprised if most people get shortlisted. Its the bare minimum.

It ALL depends on the tests, interviews, and so forth!

[Jumbo744]

Hey there,

juste applied today from Canada! good luck to everyone, it's quite confusing as to know if they want people with PPL or not...anyways we'll see! :ok: I'm under training at Moncton Flight College, started the 5th of May, only have 6 hours...

[Dannyc]

...theres almost 10,000 applicants:eek:


Thats why Im not surprised if most people get shortlisted. Its the bare minimum:eek:


Etihad better have a massive HR department :}

On the note of a previous question, from application "...under review", how long did the response take as to whether the initial application had been successful / unsuccessful?

dannyc

[dubble_dubble]

Hey Dannyc,

i guess just like everything else, out of 10,000, maybe only 5000 are eligible, and out of that maybe 2500 meet min. requirements, and so on so forth....but im guessing the # of applicants is growing by the day!

Every aviation forum on the net is talking about this!

But i do not understand your question? This is my theory: I think if your status changes to "under review" you are shortlisted. Otherwise it would just go blank (as someone mentioned, this means "on hold") or stay in the "applied" status and you'd recieve a rejection email!

IS there ANYONE here who's application status changed to "under review" and then either
(a) changed to "blank" or
(b) got a rejection letter (after the application change to "under review")

If anyone did have (a) or (b) happen to them, this would prove my theory wrong! It would mean that even if your application status DID change to Under Review, you may still get rejected at this point!

Lets figure this out!:ok:

[dubble_dubble]

my application has been under review since May 1st!:ugh:

i think they're still deciding dates and wat not:rolleyes:

[passionate.aviator]

punit i checked my etihad email. there are no new emails. only the old one about the acknowledgment of the application. My status is still blank. Does it mean i m being considered for next intake. I dont have any atpl or cpl or ppl. But i have a vast knowledge of flying. I practice Microsoft flight simulator daily.;)

[leyahl]

I'm also under review! Hope this is the real deal. Good luck everyone!

[BA6590]

does anybody know if Etihad will help with the airline tickets and accomadation if we get invited to the selection process. (again fingers crossed)

[punit]

chetan787 plyaing on ms flight sim will improve the way you fly but will not count to your flying. its not worth it its just a game not much what i think u better of be doing is if you have got money or if any of your family members are ready to pay then start your ppl and then update your application for etihad try to do your PPL as fast as p[ossible that is what i might be doing as i got that letter which states me the conditional offer.

[ZaaZoo]

I'm also under review! Hope this is the real deal. Good luck everyone!

Myself and my twin brother are alos under eview both pilots here in the US!

Lets hope this works.....

[delay]

haha off topic chentan,but flight sim absolutely pointless for VFR flying during your PPL...

Im sorry to hear that some of you have been rejected, out of curisoity did they say why? What did the status on your workspace say? Mine has just gone blank....and I havent gotten any emails from etihad either

over 10,000 applicants down to 12? anybody anticipate they are going to increase the number of vacancies? Maybe someone can do the math here...would it be more economical to train 50 cadets in the long run with a bond as opposed to hiring new staff year on year?

small factors i think that have been overlooked in this forum,

Arabic Speaking? its a big thing here in the UAE, even as pilots it could have a big advantage
Female Pilots? Anybody on this thread female? The UAE is going through a strong phase of change, A few female pilots could certainly look good to etihads image
Age? would an 18/19 year old have a better chance than a 25/26 year old?
FAA vs JAA? for those of you who have rating already....you think this could play a part

Just things to think about.....

[passionate.aviator]

:{ i do not understand one thing. Cadet pilot training means for beginners am i right?? whats the point in naming it as cadet pilot training when they wanted ppl or cpl holders. And getting trained again already after having ur license does not make any sense. In that case they should have separately invited people with ppl or cpl and give them the necessary training. If i m not right Singapore Cadet pilot training is only for those people who didnt have any flying experience. One of my friend said they prefer people with zero flying experience. Hope non ppl and cpl applicants also get a chance.:ok:

[greenfalcon]

No dude..you are wrong there..singapore airlines does take cpl and ppl holders..i know quite a few cpl holders and ppl holders who have joined SIA's cadet pilot programme..preference is always given to people with prior flying experience..that is because the license quite evidently shows your interest and passion for flying..and there are again license holders who have been shortlisted for the next phase of etihad's cadet pilot programme..so lets not jump to conclusions without doing proper research:=..no offence meant to anybody..cheers

Knowledge is Power:ok:

[delay]

i agree....we still dont know how they are deciding BUT training someone from zero is very very risky...training someone who has previously worked for an airline or is fully licensed has its disadvantages as well (different Standard operating procedures, regulations, and arrogance lol!)....It would have made the most sense to pick someone right in the middle....but yeah, good luck to all of you....

[AiRBuS_380]

Hi guys,

as for airlines, yes fATPL or CPL will provide an edge over others in terms of passion .But to make it through into the programme it takes a lot more effort then zero flying candidates. I am speaking from experience as I had quite a hard time with interviews during my era.

SQ does takes in cpl holders, but they are mostly all re-trained with SFC. thus having a CPL does not give you a way out from training of another 18 mths unlesss your CPL/IR is issued by CAAS. or taken with Massey Uni. Again, does CPL/IR gives a candidate better chances? for me i should say no. No offence but cadet programmes are meant for people without flying experience. (my cohort years back has a ratio of 1 cpl : 20 fresh) as for SQ there are tons of candidate whom got rejected despite having flying background. In my recent flying, most of the SO on training are fresh without any experience prior to employment. Thus I would say that its a fair trail in SQ cadet programme. if i am not wrong, the last few batches of cadets with SQ are all non aviators. some whom are even doctors.

With or without a CPL. if you have what it takes you will get the job.

Cheers!
Great Way to Fly!

[ZaaZoo]

But this is the Etihad thread ...right?:8

[passionate.aviator]

thanks greenfalcon for correcting me. but i dont understand how to prove to them that one who does not have any ppl or cpl can have great interest in flying too. it does makes sense that cpl and ppl holders have edge over others. but for people who cannot afford to get cpl or ppl, they look for these types of cadet pilot programs. i was very happy to see etihad welcoming other nationals. but now its a great disappointment to see that freshers are given the last preference in this program.
I agree with the statement that its too risky to train freshers compared to train someone who has a previous experience. but cant they conduct any tests which can prove that even freshers are eligible?

correct or advice me if i m wrong.
thanks.

[passionate.aviator]

friends,
1. Will updating my CV at this point of time benefit me?
2. Will they bother to look at my CV again?

I ve seen someone saying to keep updating the CV. I have just now updated my CV. This time it looks a bit better than previous one. Will it help me?

[AvEnthusiast]

Hey ppruners,

as we all know when the rumour came out there were talks about 2 to 3 intakes. and as the expiray date is 31/12/08. Does it mean that some one who has been rejected can still apply for the next intakes or if there is a change in his flying background?

[malirm]

SURE :ok:they will accept it...WHY NOT?...you can apply again.

[ZaaZoo]

that goes for almost any job you never stop applying.

[delay]

aventhusiast?......if you havent been rejected yet, why do you want to re apply?

My contact at etihad tells me that they have sourced 12 more UAE national candidates who were previous employees at etihad as cadets. With regards to the Worldiwide cadet scheme she described the situation as utter chaos with nobody having any clear direction as what to do next....

[ZaaZoo]

My contact at etihad tells me that they have sourced 12 more UAE national candidates who were previous employees at etihad as cadets. With regards to the Worldiwide cadet scheme she described the situation as utter chaos with nobody having any clear direction as what to do next....

So how were people denied already?


How did you know you were denied?

How long after you applied were you denied?

[greenfalcon]

Chetan787 preference is given to license holders doesnt mean that they dont take guys with no flying experience. The norm world around is that majority of the guys in a cadet pilot programme are freshers with no flying experience. I was just rectifying what you had written in your previous post. So keep :ok: hopes high.

As for Airbus380, the ratio you have stated is bang on right but there are atleast one-two license holders in each of current batches at SFC. Trust me I cant go wrong on this one..hehe..:O. As stated previously lets do our research properly before drawing any conclusions:ugh:. No offence. Keep posting. Cheers.

Knowledge is Power!:ok: