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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 11323860)
Loganair are on MME-BHD and aren't pulling up any trees with an a/c half the size of the Dash. MME also has shorter train times to London than NCL. And is BE really competing with BA on NCL-LHR? Are they going to make money with a sinlge daily late afternoon flight from anywhere, let alone MME?
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Surely the company is losing a vast amount of money.
even for a start up how long can investors keep pumping money in and see a return anytime soon ? |
I’d just try and offer another BFS-LHR. At least then they would be at 3 daily on that and it makes them a bit more competitive. Or otherwise find somewhere with no LHR connection so at least they are the only option - Guernsey perhaps or Liverpool.
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Originally Posted by BA318
(Post 11323876)
I’d just try and offer another BFS-LHR. At least then they would be at 3 daily on that and it makes them a bit more competitive. Or otherwise find somewhere with no LHR connection so at least they are the only option - Guernsey perhaps or Liverpool.
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
(Post 11323877)
You meant BHD I imagine, and yes, that would have been a more logical decision.
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
(Post 11323771)
If it were simply a "slot scam" then why operate any routes at all that didn't include the apparently necessary LHR slots? It must be more than just the slots, otherwise they wouldn't need the quantity of airframes they have taken on, along with the staffing costs.
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This is not a serious outfit. It's a group of investors who've been lucky enough to keep hold of an airline brand, some nice slots as LHR, and some neat little incentives from UK regional airports. As soon as the availability of LHR slots goes back to how it was pre-COVID, these guys will begin asset stripping: make a tidy profit on the sale of the slots and put all the bits they don't want into liquidation.
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Originally Posted by Alteagod
(Post 11323849)
If I was to pluck City pairs out-of-the-air from BHD for BE to try and lose money on it would be
NWI BOH SEN HUM ORK SNN CFN |
Originally Posted by southamptonavgeek
(Post 11323899)
I am not usually one to entertain the possibility of a "slot scam", but would it be possible that Cyrus were trying to recoup their losses from the original Flybe through two schemes - the selling of the Heathrow slots and of the airline entity itself once a slot sale was achieved? Thus, even if one was to be unsuccessful (likely the latter!) they would still have made a respectable sum.
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More cuts:
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Please enlighten us.
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Will they be deploying the aircraft elsewhere ?
maybe they have new routes to come? |
Or maybe they’ve realised that they don’t have sufficient aircraft for their planned for increase in scheduled flights due to late deliveries or late release from maintenance, and it is easier to do a planned cancellation rather cancelling on the day with all the associated costs such as EU261 etc.
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Originally Posted by Whispering Giant
(Post 11328923)
Or maybe they’ve realised that they don’t have sufficient aircraft for their planned for increase in scheduled flights due to late deliveries or late release from maintenance, and it is easier to do a planned cancellation rather cancelling on the day with all the associated costs such as EU261 etc.
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The 7th Q400 (FLBB) was delivered to BHX yesterday, and is due in service today apparently.
The current schedule (which admittedly excludes BHX to EDI and GLA) appears to have operated without too many issues with 6 a/c over the last few weeks, which leads me to suspect commercial decisions are behind the latest reductions rather than shortage of aircraft. Who knows what happens next? :bored: |
LBA-LHR suspended.
BHD-SOU suspended from 24 Nov - Feb. BHD-MAN/LBA/EMA all reduced to 1 x daily. Source: https://simpleflying.com/flybe-winte...ft-deliveries/ |
Same press release cut and pasted here - shame how none of these journalists ask why the late delivery of aircraft stops you operating routes you're already flying (or launching new routes...)
https://www.itv.com/news/utv/2022-11...aft-deliveries |
Flybe MK2 reminds me of the slow painful death of bmi in its final years, with failing routes, cancelled routes not sure what the airline should do, no direction. Flybe MK1 played games, especially with CWL pushing CityJet off the somewhat successful routes.
Passengers want reliable services and looking at Flybe it is all over the place. It should start non competitive network of routes, say CWL which I believe did well with EDI, CDG, DUB and get that right, before starting routes all over the country. |
Originally Posted by The Ex Flyer
(Post 11330241)
Flybe MK2 reminds me of the slow painful death of bmi in its final years, with failing routes, cancelled routes not sure what the airline should do, no direction. Flybe MK1 played games, especially with CWL pushing CityJet off the somewhat successful routes.
Passengers want reliable services and looking at Flybe it is all over the place. It should start non competitive network of routes, say CWL which I believe did well with EDI, CDG, DUB and get that right, before starting routes all over the country. Ryanair are on Dublin. Logan are on Edinburgh. |
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