This really feels like personal rather than business. Who is making these calls?? Is anyone at flybe still angry from the franchise falling out with Loganair? This really is shareholders money being spaffed away.....

The Spanish Atr is still about as well.

No one has said anything will be or might be based in IOM

So what makes you think LM will turn tail and run?

Jethros' has the Atr staying until 20/09 and the EMB until 28/10. Being replaced by two DHC-8's dryleased from LOT.

I think you are misunderstanding. His point was Loganair already have planes based in IOM to operate the LHR route among others so makes less sense they would drop it.

Is this definite or someone fishing? Can't see any sign on the website.

That's rather amusing. Care to enlighten us to as your whereabouts last Friday?!!

Only the Flybe and Manchester threads on here are capable of provoking this level of reaction!!

Skipness raises an interesting point. From what little I know, none of the former Flybe management beyond the FD and DFO are involved in the new venture. It’s unlikely that this is purely an anti-Loganair vendetta.

Flybe 2 is backed by venture capital and one with a history of trying to create value by market consolidation.

Assuming the VC has any involvement in what routes the airline flies, and this isn’t simply a poor execution of an equally poor plan (which it could be), then picking fights with Emerald, Loganair, easyJet, KLM and BA has a different tone. It suggests that if you make yourself enough of a nuisance to enough people, one of them will eventually buy you out.

It’s the only logical explanation as to how you could possibly liberate any value from this scheme. If none of them play ball, all you have is a massively loss-making airline on which the VC eventually cuts its losses.

Just so you know, the E175 flew BHD-ATH yesterday (16th Sep) as the lease has come to an end.

G-EXTB has joined the fleet

Was at the airport and saw it taking off!


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....802bb002a6.jpg

Seems they are going for it.

Twitter

flybe have added BHD-IOM and IOM-LHR

and as we suggested Loganair are not dropping the route either like you guessed. We didn’t say Flybe wouldn’t launch it.

....meanwhile looks like BHX to GLA and EDI are taking a break between end of Oct and 24th Nov. Likewise BHD-EDI from end Oct to 15th Dec.

Their social media admins are claiming it's due to the ongoing delays from lessors. Prioritising new routes over the existing services?

I really don’t understand this. Are the existing routes performing so badly that it’s better to give the new routes a shot? Or they just don’t care about the existing routes? Seems strange.