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Don’t like a point? Ignore it or make your argument back without the need to play the man. I don't believe that pointing out that whatever the cause this quote If this scenario was correct then its hardly a good omen Your final paragraph is spot on the money; it will be very interesting to see, if we were ever to find out, how they are standing up on key routes, particularly BHX/BHD in terms of passenger number and yield. Culling routes that aren't performing needs to be ruthless, as they are with are with the like of Ryanair and EasyJet as well as the very much maligned Wizz. |
The effort and cost that went into trying to hang onto the remedy slots over the last two years suggests that they have no intention of giving up on them. This temporary alleviation gives them a bit of breathing space and it will be interesting to see where they re-appear in the winter schedule. I can imagine that the current east westish network is as much about managing crewing and engineering logistics as they get started. Immediate profit on all routes would be great, but probably isn't the immediate priority. Presumably the LBA night-stopping airframe is swapped with the BHD most mornings to minimise engineering costs as they build up BHD as an engineering hub. All clever cost management stuff but a bit nerve-wracking from an operational point of view with limited airframes. Ironically, these issues can provide short term opportunities such as using the leased in fixed price jet night-stopping in LBA to avoid paying additional hotac costs for BHX crew and engineering support. I can't imagine the ATR being used into LHR.
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Ironically, these issues can provide short term opportunities such as using the leased in fixed price jet night-stopping in LBA to avoid paying additional hotac costs |
I can't imagine the ATR being used into LHR. |
Unfortunately we won’t know until a trading statement is released or we look at the company accounts. Which will be circa late 2023.
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Originally Posted by jamestkirk
(Post 11252011)
Unfortunately we won’t know until a trading statement is released or we look at the company accounts. Which will be circa late 2023.
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The accounts up to 31-Mar-2022 (ie just before flights launched in a serious way) are due at Companies House by 31-Dec-2022, and will likely appear on the web by early January. This will show the costs incurred in starting the airline and other interesting info. If you want to see *reliable* operating financial data, then expect to wait another 18 months
If you have access, RDC Apex should give good estimates Otherwise, CAA data is all there is in the public domain |
Yes, agree with you and JTK. The 18 months will be an interesting read on companies house.
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now we just need an explanation for the bizarre pricing on 5-6 other routes? Meanwhile, Emerald have announced BHD to CWL and SOU (a route BEE also intend to introduce in late July) starting in a couple of weeks |
All removed from sale, apparently, according to SeanM on Twitter
Belfast City - East Midlands Belfast City - Edinburgh (2 of 3 daily) Belfast City - Glasgow (1 of 3 daily) |
Non proffesional speculation network
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Originally Posted by bean
(Post 11252832)
Non proffesional speculation network
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Originally Posted by cavokblues
(Post 11252763)
All removed from sale, apparently, according to SeanM on Twitter
Belfast City - East Midlands Belfast City - Edinburgh (2 of 3 daily) Belfast City - Glasgow (1 of 3 daily) https://twitter.com/SeanM1997/status...96803032256512 |
Originally Posted by bean
(Post 11252832)
Non proffesional speculation network
Nothing speculative about saying Flybe has dramatically raised fares on certain flights and removed them from sale on outside channels. Nor is it speculative to point out there are several examples of airlines dramatically raising fares to deter people from booking for a variety of reasons. If you want to reach a conclusion based on that then that's on you. Make of it what you will. |
One of the awaited/overdue Dash's scheduled for delivery was noted test-flying out of MST yesterday, so hopefully making its way into service soon?
As for the posts above, it does all seem to fit with the Flybe source who confirmed that schedule adjustments were underway and that the high fares on some routes were part of this process. |
Originally Posted by Wycombe
(Post 11253278)
One of the awaited/overdue Dash's scheduled for delivery was noted test-flying out of MST yesterday, so hopefully making its way into service soon?
As for the posts above, it does all seem to fit with the Flybe source who confirmed that schedule adjustments were underway and that the high fares on some routes were part of this process. |
CAA Airport stats are out
Hard to really read anything into them as only two routes without competition East Midlands - Amsterdam -2483 pax to and from. Leeds - Heathrow - 990 pax to and from . Not sure on seat capacity, is it a daily fight between East Midlands and Amsterdam and 12 flights a week each way between Leeds and Heathrow? |
Looks like the leased-in Swift Air ATR had a turn-back shortly after departing BHD for LBA this morning.
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When is the schedule change / pricing policy update expected to be completed ? Not just some routes but all routes either showing real prices or zero availability
Potential pax need a clear picture of what will and won't operate in order to have confidence to book. Every day the website shows silly prices is a day of zero revenue and customers losing faith in flybe as a competent airline |
Originally Posted by cavokblues
(Post 11253310)
CAA Airport stats are out
Hard to really read anything into them as only two routes without competition East Midlands - Amsterdam -2483 pax to and from. Leeds - Heathrow - 990 pax to and from . Not sure on seat capacity, is it a daily fight between East Midlands and Amsterdam and 12 flights a week each way between Leeds and Heathrow? |
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