Apparently it is no coincidence that two of the earliest aircraft into the fleet are two which sustained damage in previous incidents in Flybe. Although they are fixed (of course!) it does suggest that there’s a two way street here with the leasing companies and the new airline hasn’t just had a completely free pick of the bunch.

Grow up and stop calling people "idiots". It's uncalled for and frankly if you can't win on a reasoned debate, name calling isn't a good look for a grown up, which I assume you are?
Let's be clear, they've sold a program on the basis of needing six airframes and they only have four. So that's a gamble that's gone wrong, as with the current meltdown in staff attendance and supply chain, it's a struggle to run the day to day never mind grow market share. It's not a problem unique to flybe though, as TUI, BA and easyJet have realised way too late they can't staff their own planned (and sold) flying programs. It feels to me that there was a delusion up to boardroom level that the operational challenges could be met when those closer to the coalface saw the trainwreck coming some time ago. I don't imagine there's much call for leasing Q400s anymore, I suspect some of the ex flybe models will be stored to years and possibly scrapped IMHO.

My word you have a vivid imagination haven't you.
We know you have an agenda against Flybe 2 from your perpetual wrongful allegations of financial wrongdoing when the company was set up. Who specifically called You an idiot by the way?

Skipness has a point on the airframes - Flybe right now really could do with either having a 5th airframe as a spare and/or additional crew on call. If I look up the 4 aircraft Flybe is currently using on FR24 over the last 7 days, I see a lot of red. If all was fine, I would be seeing a lot of green on FR24. If Ryanair can run a stable operation in June 2022 out of the UK, with low cancellation rates and minimal delays, then so can any other airline.

You can't blame the weather in June.... there's a serious disconnect between what Flybe sold and what they are capable of delivering in terms of operations. You can blame AMS, but if that's the case then dedicate an airframe to AMS routes, so that delays there don't infect the rest of Flybe's operation. If it means suspending the weakest routes (e.g. LHR-LBA) so as to stabilise the rest of the network, then so be it - at least Wizz have decided to take this type of action.

I agree. On the name calling front there are only two users on this thread who repeatedly start calling names and yet they moan most about the thread not being proper.

Flybe sold a programme needing 6 planes and only has 4. Regardless of why, that’s their problem. EU261 compensation will say that’s avoidable and I agree. BA has leased in planes to try and stop the delays but Flybe hasn’t. That’s their choice but let’s stop this myth that Flybe has no responsibility for the situation it finds itself in.

I have no agenda against anyone. No one called me an idiot, it was someone else being abused.
To be clear, I said flybe2 was somewhat un-ethical in my opinion, but I also stated it was all clearly legal and above board. I did not suggest financial wrongdoing, my point was clearly that what they had done was perfectly legal but objectionable.
Reading comprehension is under-rated, if you can't do people the simple courtesy of reading and understanding what others say, then I fail to see what value you add to this debate.
I also said that since flybe had (re-)launched, the proof of the pudding was yet to come. Objectively, some problems have arisen and need addressing, it will be interesting to see how they do this.

#accidentalpartridge

If Heathrow isn't a slot sitter, then how are the loads on LBA-LHR doing?

I've tried to be balanced here, but you really know a debate on PPrune has hit the gutter when someone is quoting a Simpleflying article as a definitive source. Surely you know better, and I think you do! Both the article and what airsouthwest has quoted above are talking rubbish. The Heathrow slots are owned by BA but held by Flybe in perpetuity under the terms of the IAG/bmi remedy commitments given to the EU, unless Flybe now voluntarily give them back to BA or default on their usage.

If that source and repeated playground nonsense is all you've ever got then on you go. The level of debate on here really had collapsed.

Far be it from anyone to ask why they're flying fresh air and nothing else in from Leeds using Heathrow slots or going head to head with BA and KLM to AMS. Or how they make money on a LHR pricing structure against *BOTH* BA and Aer Lingus to Belfast using a smaller, slower aircraft on a much less competitve schedule.
Perhaps we should be grateful MAD is just that bit too far for a Q400? These are all fair questions that we should debate beyond at level higher than playground antics.

The choices for LHR routes seems strange. AMS and BHD have plenty of competition from LHR and most of the other London airports too. LBA has been tried before and I can't see the long terms prospects for it unless its got a BA codeshare/franchise and operates into T5. If these are the best options flyBe can think of for the slots, Im not sure why they are bothering. I think remedy slots are limited to EU destinations after 6 seasons (3 years)

Anymore aircraft in the fleet operating yet ????

Saw two BE D8’s sitting at LHR… seems an expensive parking exercise. They should be aiming to be in and out of there.

According to Jethros website no, and I can't recall seeing reference to any additional aircraft arriving at BHX.

They are going to get into an enormous mess trying to bring on the next tranche of routes will 4 aircraft. Either start dates are going to have to be delayed, or equipment wet leased in to operate them. One pees off potential customers, the other hits the bottom line, assuming they could lay their hands on additional equipment.

The words "rock" and "hard place" come to mind.

When does the next tranche of new flights kick in? And what's the delay in getting more a/c on line?

According to TTG at the end of May, a leasing agreement has been signed for 5 additional aircraft. When they are delivered surely that will solve the lack of aircraft problems

and if rumoured SOU base, its all sounding very familiar and predictable…

BHD/EDI starts 23rd July, I had it in my mind that there were other increases in services and new routes this month.

If this happens it would be disastrous for SOU,
The demise of Flybe 1 almost destroyed the airport!
With the economic situation at the moment SOU is struggling to.survive,with PAX numbers very suppressed.
Flybe is not the answer,and BA operation has not been advertised enough to make it a success.
SOU needs its runway extension to continue as a viable operation,but it is not going to be easy with the on going economic situation,and world turmoil.