TUI Summer 2022 Timetable
 

TUI Summer Timetable attached, based on the month of August, which is sorted by flight number order.

I'm not 100% certain on which flights the 788 & 789 are planned to do at Gatwick and Manchester, i'm presuming the 789 will only be long haul, the 788, a mix of short and long haul.

Again, subject to any last minute changes/cancellations.

Apologies I meant the flight on the 05/09/22 from Manchester departing at 15:00. I think it’s scheduled for the 788. But seating ma- shows a configuration in 2-4-2 x 42 rows ?

Could be the Air Tanker A330 which is said to be on ACMI lease for TUI

The BY 763's have 46 rows of 2-4-2

TOM2106 is a 787

Fantastic - thanks for sharing!

TUI 767 Seating configuration.
 

Thats surprised me, I thought all of TUI's 767s were in the industry standard configuration of 7 seats abreast in a 2-3-2 configuration, as they adopted when they took over Air 2000 and refurbished all aircraft to the same standard.

The ex FCA 767 were all in a 2-3-2 config. The traditional BY 767 fleet were and still are 2-4-2. The fleet were not refurbished to the ex FCA config during the merger, they were kept as they were.
All ex FCA 767’s left the fleet once the 787 fleet were established.

BY 767
 

BY's 767-204/204ER and the later 767-304ER's were all delivered with a 2-4-2 config from new, with no premium fit.
The -204's from new were 273Y then to 290Y (reduced to 258 when they did the winter Oz charters)

The 767-304ER's had 328 seats in Economy Class, and also a later Thomson fit with 31 Premium 2-3-2 seats in the front 5 rows of the cabin that gave a total of 315 seats.
The Boeing 767-304ER fleet G-OBYA - YJ were first delivered new to Britannia Airways from 1996 - 4 of the new order did pass quickly over to the short-lived Britannia Airways GmbH of Germany.
Returning to Britannia UK, until their re-brand as Thomsonfly, then Thomson Airways, TUI Airways.
Many BY 763's also flew for sister TUI airlines - JetairFly TUIFly Belgium ArkeFly TUI Airlines Netherlands Britannia Nordic TUIFly Nordic and TUIfly GmbH.

In 1998 Air 2000 AMM took over Leisure International from Unijet and inherited their 2 newish 767-39HER's (ILFC) with a 2-4-2 fit.
The Leisure International Airways pair G-UKLH/LI were re-regd G-OOAN and AO.
AN was kept to 2013, but AO was returned early in 2001.

AMM had cancelled the 4 x A330-200's that Leisure had on order to standardise on the 767, and so AMM then ordered for 1999 and 2000 2 new 767-38AERs from GECAS in a 2-4-2 fit. No Premium cabin afaik.
G-OOAL and AM. But both were returned early to GECAS in 2003 and 2004.
AL was later to join the TUI Airways fleet many years later in 2017, strangely registered as G-OBYK.

Renamed FCA, who now ended up obtaining early build 763's from EVA Air and Vietnam AL that FCA fitted with a low density 2-3-2 cabin with high quality seats with 33' legroom, plus a 'luxury' Premium cabin...
Merger with Thomson's came along and the TOM/FCA fleets got very fragmented, as did their configs.

Not quite accurate.

Air 2000 were the first to announce and introduce a Premium economy product (Classic Premium) on their first new build 767s, G-OOAL/M, to be delivered in 1999 and 2000. Total seats 312, W38Y274. These were ordered before the Leisure merger.

This caused both Airtours and Monarch to do an about-face with their newly ordered A330s, both planned an all Y380 seat layout but changed to include a Premium cabin by delivery.

The ex-Leisure pair 767 G-OOAN/O gained premium cabins the winter 1999/2000 season.

The Leisure order was only for 2 PW powered A330-200s, originally due to be delivered in 2000. Order cancelled shortly after the takeover.

G-OOAO left the fleet in 2001, G-OOAM in 2003. Leaving just the other pair to soldier on.

In late 2003 the company decided to go long-haul in a big way, and start to expand and roll over the whole long-haul fleet. The ex-Vietnam Airlines 767s were the interim lift, arriving from late 2004, pending delivery of the 787s which First Choice were the European launch customer for in early 2004. In fact it was still the 7E7 when the order was placed. The refurbishment of these aircraft was reportedly part of the 7E7 deal with Boeing. The Vietnam Airlines aircraft weren’t early build, being less than 10 years old at the time. Configuration was 258, W63Y195.

G-OOAL left the fleet in 2005, which left just G-OOAN which was reconfigured to W62Y196, note slightly different config to the others.

The EVA Air pair were acquired in 2006/7, which were slightly older but from the same era as the rest of the fleet (1992 build) while around the same time the 787 order was increased accordingly from 6 to 8.

By the time of the Thomson merger, First Choice had 12 787-8 orders due to the success of the new long haul programme, and all the refurbished 767s including G-OOAN became part of the Thomson fleet.

For 2006, which was the last full year of independence for First Choice, they were serving;
Antigua, Aruba, Barbados, Cancun, Cayo Coco, Columbo, Cozumel, Holguin, Huatulco, Male, Mombassa, Montego Bay, Orlando/Sanford, Porlamar, Puerto Plata, Puerto Vallarta, Punta Cana, Salvador, Varadero. Plus winter only flights to Goa and Trivandrum. A far wider range than is served today by TUI, but at much lower frequency. Many of the flights were fortnightly, with attendant cost and operational complexity. The TUI model is much more based on frequency to the main destinations.

I am after some help if possible please, I am off to Turkey with Tui in July from BHX up until 8 weeks ago both flights were shown as being with Tui in both directions on a 738, We then got notification that the outbound flight was being changed to airline TBC the flights are on Saturday Dep BHX 20:50 Arr DLM 02:50 inbound Dep DLM arr BHX 19:50 so I assume this be an airline based in Turkey. As you can the see the outbound time is pretty awful as losing full day and night in resort as wont be at hotel until 5-6am


I have spoken to Tui a number of times and they claim that they still do not know who the carrier is going to be which I dont get as someone must have applied for the slots to operate this, It appears this flight runs every week from 28/05 through to 24/09 so its only 8 weeks until the first departure, Can anyone give me any further insight about whom we will be flying with

I would assume it’s Freebird, they’ve operated for TUI in the past.

There is also BY3213 PMI-HUY and BY3212 HUY-PMI on a Tuesday - not sure what base will operate these flights

Looks like the Tuesday Gatwick flights are being rescheduled!

TOM 4230/1 Palma 06:15 - 20:35 times have changed, & now looks to be the aircraft to operate the Humberside flights, possibly the A320
TOM 4254/5 Palma 07:30 - 20:50 times have changed, & now appears to operate to Teesside, possibly a 738?

interestingly the A320s and A321's aircraft types at Gatwick, seem to have been removed from some booking engines, wonder if they are trying to lease in different aircraft types now?

Many thanks indeed for the corrections and filling in the gaps - cheers, all a long time ago.
I recall the older EVA or the Vietnam 767's (or was it both) could not, due to the floor weights take a high density load - was that correct>?
Also I always wondered as to why they let go 2 of the newer 767's AM & AO>?

Had Thomson (by the time of the merger) ordered any new Long Haul a/c in their own right or were the first Thomson 787's purely part of the original FCA order>?
Thanks.

Thanks Matt9955 for all the summer TUI info and Plog.

I gather apart from the LBA and HUY W's there is MME and also INV to Palma as well>?

Thank You was just a little worried with not being able to get any info out of Tui that this may have been a reserve flight that they will use only if they hot certain capacity sold, I just do not want them to contact me in June to say sorry we are no longer operating a flight on Saturday please book again for Monday which is currently £800 more expensive. Hopefully Tui will confirm exactly who is operating the flights soon as first dep is 28/05.

I have noticed Corendon are basing an aircraft at DLM for summer and they are doing their own DLM-BHX flights on Saturdays but is an early morning flight but would be back to the evening charter for Tui possibly

Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree here but surely, given the strategic importance of Palma to TUI, and the amount of W patterns aircrafts/TUI do re: PMI/UK wouldn't it be worth it basing a unit out in Palma instead? They would a) increase the amount of flights that they can offer to all passengers including to places like LBA, HUY, MME, INV, b) increase the amount of flights that they can further add to the busier stations @ MAN BRS BHX LGW utilising the airports in their "quieter" periods, whilst also c) increasing the sectors for the UK based aircraft able to return for lunch time or early evening and be back out to Canaries, Turkey, Greece afternoon/night flight.

How long will Melbourne Orlando last? Barring cruise pax, too far out and not sure punters will realise that?
Is this the third Orlando airport BY/TOM have tried?

Its only 5 or so miles further than SFB to kissimmee and by all accounts a much better drive in. Time will tell I guess.

TOM1710 seems to be flying unusually low today; heading down to TFS and is not getting above 25,000 for some reason. Tracking error or likely a problem?

Most likely a pack related MEL item, it limits 737s to FL250 in cruise when dispatching with one air conditioning pack inop.

G-FDZD suffering from the same issue for the second time this week. Perhaps a problem with getting parts?

I wonder what the cost impact would be for an airline doing a 10 hour round trip at this lower altitude....

They’re using G-FDZD on MAN-PFO-MAN which seems odd but perhaps so it only operates two sectors rather than four. It resulted in the outbound taking 6h10m…

G-TUMO doesn’t seem to have suffered the same delays. It’s been flying NCL-TFS-NCL at 24,000 feet but is running ahead of schedule.

Not as expensive as 2 lots of eu261 claims i suspect.

G-FDZD did a Madeira run on Friday and flew back at FL240, spent a couple of days on the ground, and then managed to go to Paphos at FL350 but again returned at FL240. Only TUMO has done a round trip at approx FL240/250.

My flight 5th June to HER was supposed to be 787 however recently changed. 242 config until the back of the plane which ends with 232 42 rows so doesn't look to be the 767. Waiting for TUI to confirm as says aircraft type N/A in app. Could this be a leased aircraft?

following this tread and noticed that TUMO did NCL/LPA/NCL at this level again. If it a new part is required how would this be done - would the aircraft swap down route and return to bigger base for maintenance work or could it be done at NCL?

CH Aviation has just announced TUI UK to wet lease 4 A320 family aircraft. Anyone know where they will be based and who is providing?

​​​​​​To be based at Dublin, Doncaster and Gatwick according to Jethros for summer 22

Can be done at NCL it has been done in the past.

Ncl has the same qualified engineers as the likes of MAN or LGW. It may only be a valve or a simple component change required so no real need to swap out. Unless it's something major that may require hangar input but If it's flying round with an Mel restriction then it's doubtful that's the case.

G-TUMO currently at 37,000ft on its way to TFS - so whatever it was is now sorted

It looks to be the same Air Tanker aircraft that Condor leased back in 2019. The seat map is identical.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1326a6cc0b.png
Air Tanker A330
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....921bce4d2f.jpg
TUI A330 Leased
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....04bac84d8f.jpg

Time table clash
 

Being an avid fan of 788/9 TUI flights I have noted a couple of a/c clashes. A/c 12 flt 146/7 is man / cun / man dep 10.00 ret 07.40 but a/f is due to leave man as flt 2620 at 06.05 before 147 lands. Also a/c 13 flt 103 from MLB is due to arrive 5 minutes before departure as 2336 and on a/c 14 flt 123 from MLB is arriving at 06.45 30 minutes after it should have left as 2428. I may be overlooking the fact that times used are current and not for any amendments that may occur in heavy traffic periods like july and August.

Three based long-haul 787-9s at MAN by summer and three long-haul departures by day:

Mon: VRA, CUN, PUJ
Tue: MBJ, CUN, MLB
Wed: PVR, CUN, MLB
Thu: CUN, VRA, PUJ
Fri: CUN. MBJ, PUJ
Sat: MBJ, CUN, MLB
Sun: CUN, PUJ, MLB

No overlaps between L/H and S/H 787 operations.

Resolves my earlier query regarding clashes by allocating SH to 788 a/f's and LH to 789.

Does anyone know if the ABZ based aircraft has changed type and from what to what? Had seats selected but then had to reselect them as they disappeared. Customer service said this was due to an aircraft type change. Thanks.

Did you not see a revised seat map when reselecting?