Yeah, I’m not sure Israel, a country with consistently one of the tightest borders throughout the whole pandemic, banning foreign visitors is going to put people off booking holidays to Cancun or Jamaica.

Ski resorts weren't referenced in the post to which I was responding.

It should be rembered that TUI is in the business of selling dreams and is deeply dependent on consumer confidence to make advance bookings. Time from booking to flight has fallen significantly since March last year - people are not booking 6 months ahead like they used to. This is not Tesco where the gap between handing over cash and getting a receipt to be able to take food out the shop is achieved in 30 seconds with very little to go wrong

The fact that France has told UK residents 2 days ago they are not welcome, and that the UK is prone to introducing a red list at such short notice that finding a flight home without quarantine is very very expensive will scare a lot of people from booking flights. Furthermore, if you can't get a negative test no later than 2 days before your flight home means you can't fly home. Google FUD - Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. Noises about Plan C in the news, possibly being announced in the next few days will not help consumer confidence

I am not booking anything unless a) I can afford to lose the money, and b) I fly home no later than 2 days after I left the UK so I can definitely get a negative test before leaving the UK.

New and last minute flight booking for a week's package holiday on long haul have presumably taken a bit of a tumble. This *will* have implications for the number of flights that TUI and other airlines operate.... unless of course TUI wants to burn cash even faster than they are already - £5m per day of losses was the last figure I saw

Spain insisting on all over-12s being double vaccinated has meant a large number of families not able to travel to Spain, as a family, and delaying or cancelling their break over the Christmas and New Year period.

Jet2 have started combining flights due to passenger loads.
Todays STN-ACE routed STN-FUE-ACE / FUE-ACE-STN so loads must be very low on all winters sun flights inc TUI.

BHX ACE & FUE were also combined today, I would expect a lot more of this after Christmas and into the New Year

Sorry does anyone know how I can see seat plans / aircraft type for TUI flights.
Im sure someone on here said you can on the TUI app but I have tried that with no luck.

Can we stick to TUI news please?

If you know the flight number go to Flightmapper.net use TOM flight number it should show you itenary and airframe type.

thank you very helpful ☝️

SE-RFZ (ex TUIK) is now estimated to be repaired by the end of Jan 22!!!

Does anybody know why G-OBYG is EOL instead of freighter conversion?

What happened to it in Arlanda? I see it's not flown since 18th October

In the aviation equivalent of Rock, Paper, Scissors it would appear that Steel beats Carbon Fibre.


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Not an easy fix.

My alert level with TUI generally has just gone up a notch… a reasonable number of ‘operational’ incidents and events over past few months which I haven’t previously been aware of.

To be fair to TUI, a ground handler driving a catering truck into the side of the aircraft is something that can happen any time and anywhere - just bad luck. CF repair is a more complex affair than on more traditional build methods.

It's not TUI's responsibility to turn it into a freighter, it's only duty is to return it to the Lessor in a fit state.

A few years ago a friend of mine ferried a 9 year old A319 to the US to be parted out - more demand for parts at that time than second hand minibuses. Lots of different economic considerations (cost of conversion, value parted out, cost of routine maintenance etc) to be balanced as a pax aircraft reaches the end of its airline life.

737 max
 

I’ve noticed on FR24 the 737-Max’s are now operating more from Glasgow and Newcastle instead of the usual 737/800’s. Anyone know if this is a permanent switch or just keeping them busy over the winter?

GLA, CWL, NCL and DSA have recently switched from being 1x738 to 1x7M8. It makes sense particularly for GLA and NCL due to their more northerly positions meaning most flights are a bit longer than from other bases.

thanks, next question! Given the seating capacity is the same and assume cabin crew can switch easily between them (And perhaps flight crew?) at the larger bases that have both types (including NCL during the summer) are they used interchangeably?

I don’t work for TUI so I’m not sure. I would imagine that will probably end up being the case if a mix of types will be required at these bases during the summer (as is currently the case at LGW/MAN/BHX).

Hi I'm cc for TUI; for CC there is practically no difference between the MAX and NG other than a couple of safety equipment location differences which can be covered in an online training module. Seating layout is identical. For flight crew the two variants are totally interchangeable once some additional training on the Max has been completed. I'm not 100% but presume max a/c are being plotted into regional programmes in order to give flight crew at based regional stations opportunities to get increased exposure to it.

767
 

Just noticing on a booking for Easter next year (2023), that TUI are still showing the 767 as operating some flights.

Is this what people were expecting? I thought they would have all gone by then?

Do the medium hall 767s have PTVs?

Random one but I’ve booked a few flights with TUI out of NCL this year into REU and PMI.

On all 10 flights the last 4 rows are blocked off from reserving. Am I entirely unlucky or are they just not accepting reservations for some reason for the rear of the plane?

I thought initially an equipment change but I’d imagine the 737-8 (either TUI or sunwing) and the max would have the same rows?

They are blocked off to allow check in to be able to sort out any seating issues with families split up etc! Just enables flexibility.

Looks like TUIN is landing in the mid-Azores. Was on way to Bridgetown from LGW.

Unusual diversion!

Isn’t it a (relatively common) recognised diversion airport?

Anyone know what short haul rotations the 787 will be doing from MAN this summer? I’ve tired googling it but it just brings up all the summer plans for S21 not S22.

I don't think they have an idea what the 787s are doing next week, let alone for the summer!

Presumably G-TUIP’s delivery isn’t imminent as it’s been ferried from Charleston to Victorville?

schedules all shows on google flights ok, I found this one straight away!!! :-

Monday July 11th : MAN-DLM TOM336 6:30PM - 12:50AM Boeing 787

No B787s around the world are imminent delivery, unless they are second hand.

All completed airframes since Aug last year require rectification work. Correct?

Yes, but as yet nothing approved by the FAA on what needs doing.

Everything alright at TUI? Im going on holiday from Manchester in a few weeks and cannot help but see they are suffering delays from Manchester on a good chunk of flights, especially the long haul services (I'll be using LH). If this is February then I feel sorry for them come July. Weekends I ignore as Ski season brings about delays to flights to destinations due to volume of traffic heading down to the alps.

Looking at the MAN thread I think the issue is more the capacity of the handling agents than TUI. I must admit when I went to PUJ in December and was looking at the flight in the weeks prior, it was consistently an hour late as were most of the long haul flights, but as I say, I think this is a MAN/handling agent issue as opposed to a TUI issue.

or put another way, it's a TUI issue cos they don't pay their handling agents enough.

Ahhh seems to put me at ease slightly. However maybe it's time TUI did what jet2 did many years ago and self handle completely at big stations like MAN BHX LGW where they've got ultimate control over everything. Small bases such as NCL, DSA, EMA don't seem to have much of an issue.