Originally Posted by The Flying Stool
(Post 11220355)
Thats what Jet2 do and Thomas Cook also based an aircraft in the Canaries over the winter in particular. This is also largely to mitigate delays so the airline is not liable for EU261 claims.
In the case of Jet2 and TCX, crews are positioned there from other bases and spend several days there before other crews replave them. |
Originally Posted by Downwind_Left
(Post 11220377)
I’d be surprised if the crews position out, or back generally… would be an expensive option… needs double the number of hotel rooms when the aircraft lands in TFS. And double the number on the last day of duty position home as 2 crews overlap, plus you lose the revenue seats to sell on 2 flights, as well as having 2 crews massively overlap duty. Far more efficient to swap crews at a convenient point when the aircraft is on the ground in the UK. Inbound crew gets off… fresh crew gets on for the flight south.
TUI do have an aircraft in TFS which operates revenue flights for them. Surely having 2 aircraft, 1 standby to cover Canaries and Cape Verde, will be better for everyone. I don't think TUI do standby aircraft do they? |
Originally Posted by P330
(Post 11220024)
I see the 787s routinely heading down to Cape Verde now and not specific 787s, rather any, including ones that would have done long haul the day before.
Do TUI still take out the premium seats before flights to the Canaries and Cape Verde? If so, is this a big job? |
Originally Posted by LBAflyer22
(Post 11220406)
Alas your wrong. Crew position both ways. I don't get your math regards number of hotel rooms - simple put the crew go on one flight out, stay let's say 5 nights, on the 6th day they fly back after their standby duty. The new crew fly out on the 6th day ready for duty on the 7th day with another 5 day stay. I'm not sure how Jet2 work it I'm sure someone in the know will know.
TUI do have an aircraft in TFS which operates revenue flights for them. Surely having 2 aircraft, 1 standby to cover Canaries and Cape Verde, will be better for everyone. I don't think TUI do standby aircraft do they? So in that example the aircraft is effectively grounded every week on the day the crews swap over. If that's how TUI do it, then it works for them. Or to fly the aircraft every day with positioning crew, on the changeover day you need 2 sets of hotel rooms, 2 sets of crew, and 2 seats of seats that can't be sold every time a crew positions out/back. But I'd assumed they'd want to utilize the aircraft every day, hence why I thought the company would have taken the operationally simpler approach of just swapping out crew at a UK airport. No FDP issues... single sector for each crew plus ground transport, no seats left unsold for crew, no crossover of hotel rooms, full coverage to fly aircraft every day. |
I am crew for TUI, the TFS slips are crewed mainly using crew from the regional bases and mostly work with the crew swapping at UK bases.
Crew generally do 1 night at a time in TFS. Occasionally may be a 2 night trip eg UK - TFS (night stop) TFS - UK - TFS (night stop) TFS - UK but this is uncommon. |
Impressed with Tui.
due to a giant cock up with covid paperwork my wife was left behind on Sunday while I and my daughter flew to Florida. We knew about the issue on Saturday but there was no way to resolve it over the weekend. Tui agreed to not count her as a no-show and not cancel the return ticket. We resolved the paperwork issue this morning (Monday) and Tui have got her on Tuesdays flight for a very reasonable £155. I don’t think think many scheduled carriers would be so accommodating. |
Originally Posted by davidjpowell
(Post 11220985)
Impressed with Tui.
due to a giant cock up with covid paperwork my wife was left behind on Sunday while I and my daughter flew to Florida. We knew about the issue on Saturday but there was no way to resolve it over the weekend. Tui agreed to not count her as a no-show and not cancel the return ticket. We resolved the paperwork issue this morning (Monday) and Tui have got her on Tuesdays flight for a very reasonable £155. I don’t think think many scheduled carriers would be so accommodating. |
Long time lurker, first time poster… :)
Travelling on BY5434 LGW-FAO on 05/05/22, which had already been swapped from a TUI 737 to one of the leased Titan A320 planes, but just got another email this morning to say it’s been swapped again to a Avion Express Malta bird, presumably another A320 (already checked in so can’t see the seat map any more). Seems to be some hot-potato action going on with the assigned metal.. :) |
Hi guys, sorry if this is in the wrong area of the forum, does anyone know when the 4 Sunwing aircraft are heading over to their 4 respective bases for the summer season? I am assuming possibly Saturday the 30th?
Thanks and again apologies if its wrongly posted |
Originally Posted by NickBarnes
(Post 11221108)
Hi guys, sorry if this is in the wrong area of the forum, does anyone know when the 4 Sunwing aircraft are heading over to their 4 respective bases for the summer season? I am assuming possibly Saturday the 30th?
Thanks and again apologies if its wrongly posted https://jethroseu.co.uk/fleets/fleet...ui_airways.htm all listed here |
Originally Posted by SALENO
(Post 11212950)
Interesting one and defo says A321 and seating plan looks like at least one of Smartlynx from their own website. Only appeared end of last week and surprised me somewhat, but this is the 3rd aircraft type we have been allocated so far with still 6 weeks to go! My brother is also flying from LGW at the same time and they have just had their return changed from B787 to Titan A321.
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Originally Posted by azz767
(Post 11221132)
https://jethroseu.co.uk/fleets/fleet...ui_airways.htm all listed here
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Originally Posted by Matt995
(Post 11220019)
Yep, its appears to be a one off flight from BHX on the 20 May, outbound TOM7548 & inbound TOM7549 is showing as a B763. The Manchester Friday timetable shows 2 B763 are not need until May 27th, so for some reason they have decided to put the 763 on this flight, maybe due to passenger demand or 788 maintenance?? Early May flights will often see different aircraft types/flight times, whilst they get the whole fleet back in service or wait for the leased in aircraft to arrive!
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I read somewhere, maybe here, that the 767s will go in 2024. I can see them in the schedules until at least Easter next year.
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I’ve got quite a few flights out to see family in Mallorca from NCL through tui and they are all flyAlbastar versus TUI. Not sure if it’s a lease or just covering capacity out of ncl.
Was fairly common to see spanair, future and aireuropa cover Palma flights in a past life in the days of Portland Holidays, Thomson et al |
Albastar
Albastar are flying for an increasing number of TUI Airways Palma flights this summer - BOH EXT INV EMA MME and NCL as you mention.
They fly 737-800's. Air Europa are also doing some Palma's for TUI - I think from Scottish airports. |
Originally Posted by rog747
(Post 11222571)
Albastar are flying for an increasing number of TUI Airways Palma flights this summer - BOH EXT INV EMA MME and NCL as you mention.
They fly 737-800's. Air Europa are also doing some Palma's for TUI - I think from Scottish airports. |
Originally Posted by JKKne
(Post 11222452)
I’ve got quite a few flights out to see family in Mallorca from NCL through tui and they are all flyAlbastar versus TUI. Not sure if it’s a lease or just covering capacity out of ncl.
Was fairly common to see spanair, future and aireuropa cover Palma flights in a past life in the days of Portland Holidays, Thomson et al |
The NCL PMI Albastar flight is the Thursday flight its a W pattern it used to be the Aberdeen Sunwing aircraft.
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Summer Aircraft Movements
a few aircraft movements for TUI getting ready for the summer schedule:-
G-TUMM 44654/8243 B737-8 Max due to be delivered to LGW tomorrow G-TUMN 44655/8216 B737-8 Max delivered to LGW yesterday G-TUKP 37250/4345 B737-8K5 delivered to LGW yesterday, ex Sunwing C-FYAU C-FYJD 41807/5420 B737-8Q8 delivered to ABZ yesterday, on lease from Sunwing C-GFEH 41608/5346 B737-8GS delivered to NWI today, on lease from Sunwing ES-SAM 1896 A320-232 due to be delivered to DSA tomorrow, on lease from Smartlynx |
Originally Posted by Matt995
(Post 11223030)
a few aircraft movements for TUI getting ready for the summer schedule:-
G-TUMM 44654/8243 B737-8 Max due to be delivered to LGW tomorrow G-TUMN 44655/8216 B737-8 Max delivered to LGW yesterday G-TUKP 37250/4345 B737-8K5 delivered to LGW yesterday, ex Sunwing C-FYAU C-FYJD 41807/5420 B737-8Q8 delivered to ABZ yesterday, on lease from Sunwing C-GFEH 41608/5346 B737-8GS delivered to NWI today, on lease from Sunwing ES-SAM 1896 A320-232 due to be delivered to DSA tomorrow, on lease from Smartlynx |
Originally Posted by Matt995
(Post 11223030)
a few aircraft movements for TUI getting ready for the summer schedule:-
G-TUMM 44654/8243 B737-8 Max due to be delivered to LGW tomorrow G-TUMN 44655/8216 B737-8 Max delivered to LGW yesterday G-TUKP 37250/4345 B737-8K5 delivered to LGW yesterday, ex Sunwing C-FYAU C-FYJD 41807/5420 B737-8Q8 delivered to ABZ yesterday, on lease from Sunwing C-GFEH 41608/5346 B737-8GS delivered to NWI today, on lease from Sunwing ES-SAM 1896 A320-232 due to be delivered to DSA tomorrow, on lease from Smartlynx |
Return flight to Melbourne, Florida. Having experienced its well worth the drive from Orlando. Clearly, they see Tui as a big fish, and as a passenger, they have focused on our experience just as much as the deal for Tui,
On arrival, the terminal is clearly being extended (I'm told since doubling in size). While signage is not up, there was staff everywhere pointing the way and greeting passengers. Luggage is collected before immigration. The officials were marginally less officious than normal. The airport had a little gift bag ready with water and snacks, which was a nice touch. Some car hire services are temporarily in an air-conditioned marquee, with additional air-conditioned temporary toilets also. Coming back, similar reception. No queue at check-in, even at peak arrival time. No queue at security with friendly and helpful officials (take not UK Staff!). All the employees from the chatty cleaner to the Police officer working to reunite a phone to its owner were helpful, motivated, and actually seemed to take pride in their work and the airport. Again for passengers we were given a voucher for free food and water.## On the way back we drove down from Cape Canaveral to the airport. Tremendous beach. I would have no hesitation in flying there again - in fact, I would choose it over Orlando, and stay a night locally before traveling up to the City. I think Tui will do well with this location. |
Does anyone know why TOM658 BRS CUN & TOM44 LGW MBJ are going via SNN today?
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SE-RFZ 787-900 now flying out of Manchester. Is this to cover for the late delivery of IP? Its the old G-TUIK that was transferred last year.
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ES-SAM and SAY were both in Manchester Saturday evening along with SE-RFZ B789 and today C-FYJD
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C-FYSV is also inbound Manchester due just after 19.00
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C-FYSV is also inbound Manchester due just after 19.00 |
OO-TUP (TUI Belgium) running out of Birmingham today too.
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Neos (I-NEOW) have also been operating for TOM out of LGW.
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Does anyone know what will be based in BFS for summer? Will it be TUI aircraft or Sunwing once again?
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Originally Posted by AviationFan2021
(Post 11224107)
Does anyone know why TOM658 BRS CUN & TOM44 LGW MBJ are going via SNN today?
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Are TUI having problems with their leased Sunwing planes?
Looking at ABZ based C-FYJD and NWI based C-GFEH which only started operating for TUI on 1 May the former has had 7 out of 12 flights late and the latter 6 out of nine flights late (excluding UK positioning flights). Is this down to new and inexperienced crews, handling agents not used to holiday flights because of COVID or technical problems? I know delays can happen to all airlines on any routes but the record so far in just three days of operation is poor and this is before the proper summer holiday flight rush at airports. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/c-fyjd https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/c-gfeh |
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LGW - MBJ was due to sick Pax |
Originally Posted by Marty82
(Post 11224646)
Are TUI having problems with their leased Sunwing planes?
Looking at ABZ based C-FYJD and NWI based C-GFEH which only started operating for TUI on 1 May the former has had 7 out of 12 flights late and the latter 6 out of nine flights late (excluding UK positioning flights). Is this down to new and inexperienced crews, handling agents not used to holiday flights because of COVID or technical problems? I know delays can happen to all airlines on any routes but the record so far in just three days of operation is poor and this is before the proper summer holiday flight rush at airports. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/c-fyjd https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/c-gfeh |
Is anyone aware of a known issue with seat assignments on boarding passes when receiving them via what’s app?
12 of us are booked on a trip with the same booking reference so the person who booked the trip has checked us in via the app. She has then sent us via a what’s app group our boarding passes but upon checking the seat assignments in our boarding passes, we noticed they are completely different to the boarding passes in the app…I don’t know if this is a TUI issue or something else I can’t explain… |
Originally Posted by ROC10
(Post 11224674)
I don’t think it’s just a Sunwing thing. I haven’t done any form of detailed checking but I’ve seen countless delays since the summer season started on Sunday, some of which have been pretty significant (3/4+ hours).
Our plane today came in early, had a 1.5 hour turnaround and still pushed back late on our flight. Really don't understand what TUI are playing at so early in the season. Good luck to them at the height of the season! |
Sorry but I think till your armed with all the facts your making an “ arm chair “ response that you actually don’t know anything about
I thought this forum was a bit more mature, but as late , some very poor posts on here re TUI and other airlines/ airports and in fact anything airline related We have just come out of the biggest single catastrophe and trying to get aviation / airports back up and flying and everything that goes along with it seems to be up for criticism |
Originally Posted by Marty82
(Post 11225142)
Seems really poor from smaller and quieter airports which aren't experiencing security delays like Manchester and Birmingham.
Our plane today came in early, had a 1.5 hour turnaround and still pushed back late on our flight. Really don't understand what TUI are playing at so early in the season. Good luck to them at the height of the season! You really need to understand the issues. Crews of 1 or 2 cleaners turning up to clean an aircraft on a turn where there used to be a squad of 6 or 8. Same with caterers, fuellers, security staff the list goes on and on. Yes some issues could be blamed directly at the airline, but a good chunk cannot. The industry went into complete hibernation losing thousands of experienced staff in the process. You can't get new ones in and up to the same level overnight. Things are going to get better but it will take time. |
Plus some people will have found more stable careers and won't want to come back to an industry that is rather volatile, so will take time to attract new people to bring it back to the same levels as before
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