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jmdavies86 19th Feb 2024 07:59


Originally Posted by Expressflight (Post 11599824)
The result would be that Esken's shareholding in LSA would be considerably reduced to a minority holding. Carlyle and Cyrus Capital Partners would fund the plan to secure the future of LSA.

Well, neither option is particularly pretty for existing Esken shareholders, however allowing Carlyle & Cyrus to recapitalise and restructure LSA by reducing down to a minority holding is obviously the lesser of the two evils compared to facing a potentially protracted legal battle and then them having to stump up £193m, which they clearly don't have readily available because they've effectively bet on the successful sale of SEN in order to pay back said loan.

Seeing as Esken's financial year is coming up at the end of this month (28th Feb, I believe?!), I wonder if they'll likely announce acceptance of this deal as early as next week.


The uncertainty that CGI's demand for repayment by LSA has created, has stalled any progress on (i) the disposal of non-core assets...

Source: https://tools.eurolandir.com/tools/P...wpf&v=redesign


I wonder how, if at all, this affects the talks that were supposedly happening regarding the sale of Carlisle Lake District Airport (CAX) - I suspect that my hunch of there not actually being a potential buyer may well be true, however I'm more than happy to be corrected.

LGS6753 20th Feb 2024 10:07

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...280927#comment


GayFriendly 21st Feb 2024 21:47

Just been booking flights on the FR app and have noticed London Southend in the drop down menu with destinations Bilbao and Brest but no flights loaded. Very odd, as none of these airports have any other FR routes, is it something sport event related for later in the year?

jmdavies86 21st Feb 2024 22:11


Originally Posted by GayFriendly (Post 11601703)
Just been booking flights on the FR app and have noticed London Southend in the drop down menu with destinations Bilbao and Brest but no flights loaded. Very odd, as none of these airports have any other FR routes, is it something sport event related for later in the year?

Nothing for London-Southend shows up on their website at all.

Might it just be to test the functionality of the app so as to not cause issues with existing flights, or are we perhaps likely to hear/see an announcement of FR coming to SEN soon after Esken have decided whether to accept the deal that's been proposed to them by CGI...?!

As you say, it's very odd.

FRatSTN 22nd Feb 2024 00:01


Originally Posted by GayFriendly (Post 11601703)
Just been booking flights on the FR app and have noticed London Southend in the drop down menu with destinations Bilbao and Brest but no flights loaded. Very odd, as none of these airports have any other FR routes, is it something sport event related for later in the year?

They've been sat there since they pulled out in 2021. Not sure why they never removed those two routes but they only show in the app and not the website. Given they no longer fly to Southend, Bilbao or Brest in any capacity maybe they've just kept them there as a perception they serve more airports. This is Ryanair mentality after all.

DC3 Dave 22nd Feb 2024 07:27

My unreliable source advises me that one end of a MAGlev railway will be housed in the STN extension and will provide a shuttle service between there and SEN, the latter to become London Stansted South(end) Terminal.

This will bring many benefits including the return of Ryanair and probably explains why SEN still features on their app.

Markushillman 22nd Feb 2024 07:33


Originally Posted by DC3 Dave (Post 11601920)
My unreliable source advises me that one end of a MAGlev railway will be housed in the STN extension and will provide a shuttle service between there and SEN, the latter to become London Stansted South(end) Terminal.

This will bring many benefits including the return of Ryanair and probably explains why SEN still features on their app.

Southend features on their app because someone hasn't bothered to remove it. No more no less

pabely 23rd Feb 2024 23:25

Looking at Aeroitalia Web site tonight and London Southend no longer appears - Oops!

jmdavies86 24th Feb 2024 02:45


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 11603053)
Looking at Aeroitalia Web site tonight and London Southend no longer appears - Oops!

To be fair, that doesn't necessarily mean the loss is due to the fault of SEN - although I'm sure the uncertainty of the ongoing situation with CGI may well be a contributing factor.

London to Milan is a very popular route and competition is high. Perhaps the BGY-SEN route simply hasn't sold as well as they initially had hoped/thought it would and therefore Aeroitalia have decided to withdraw it before it even begins, which does happen from time to time - there's no point in an airline attempting to start a route and accrue huge losses for the sake of it.

Also, they've just re-appointed their former CCO, Krassimir Tanev, last month, so perhaps he's already decided to make a few changes...?

I do feel for any passenger(s) that may have decided to book with them and are due to fly soon as Aeroitalia don't serve any other UK airport so they may well now be left in a situation where they've got to find alternative flights at short notice, which could be more expensive than what they've paid; I hope that Aeroitalia are prompt in making any refunds.

Charlie98 24th Feb 2024 06:44


Originally Posted by jmdavies86 (Post 11603098)

I do feel for any passenger(s) that may have decided to book with them and are due to fly soon as Aeroitalia don't serve any other UK airport so they may well now be left in a situation where they've got to find alternative flights at short notice, which could be more expensive than what they've paid; I hope that Aeroitalia are prompt in making any refunds.

Just to note incase anyone reads this who is in that situation. Aeroitalia is responsible to get you there and will have to pay for the alternative travel under EU261. They shouldn’t be out of pocket.

DC3 Dave 24th Feb 2024 07:01

To be honest, I looked at a few flights around a week ago and none of them had sold more than a dozen seats.

Milan no longer on airport website.

There will be no compensation. Airline has given required notice of cancellation.




AirportPlanner1 24th Feb 2024 07:15

It’s removed from the SEN website so that’s pretty conclusive. It will have zero to do with the airport’s uncertainties and everything to do with a lowest base fare with special discount excluding bags etc of £70 one way when Ryanair is routinely £20-50ish.

An unreliable airline as can be seen from their chopping and changing.

Charlie98 24th Feb 2024 07:50


Originally Posted by DC3 Dave (Post 11603164)

There will be no compensation. Airline has given required notice of cancellation.

it isn't compensation.. it’s rerouting.

rog747 24th Feb 2024 08:07


Originally Posted by Charlie98 (Post 11603185)
it isn't compensation.. it’s rerouting.

If you received seven to 14 days' notice of the cancellation, you will get a full refund,

or a new flight, and may be able to claim compensation based on the costs and timings of finding an alternative flight.
good luck with that though....

Markushillman 24th Feb 2024 08:43

Quite frankly you could of probably have put your house on the flights never taking off.

Probably best to try and grow the partnership with easyjet at present.

mudcity 29th Feb 2024 08:22

Any news on the proposed agreement between Esken and Carlyle group ?

LTNman 29th Feb 2024 17:44

https://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/241...scottish-city/

Markushillman 29th Feb 2024 17:55


Originally Posted by LTNman (Post 11606418)

As I said before Easyjet will be the airports best bet if they want a route like that.

DC3 Dave 29th Feb 2024 18:15

EDI-SEN-JER-SEN-EDI

I'd love to see that.

Jinx01 29th Feb 2024 18:59


Originally Posted by DC3 Dave (Post 11606428)
EDI-SEN-JER-SEN-EDI

I'd love to see that.

I believe they may already have JER covered ...

But EDI-SEN-IBZ-SEN-EDI would be appreciated!


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