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laviation 28th May 2023 10:42


Originally Posted by RA85684 (Post 11440312)
More than just the charters, I'm hoping for more international, long term recognition of Newcastle and the North East, more flights, especially with the Ryanair base, and more inbound traffic to complement the majority outbound market. It's a long shot, but a larger and more established ryanair presence, with more based aircraft and more routes for next year could massively help, especially if the routes just happen to go to high demand football destinations.

I do feel that NCL is on a roll at the minute! I hope it keeps up.

Sadly, NCL has found itself firmly in the new inbound EDI catchment.

VickersVicount 28th May 2023 10:44


Originally Posted by laviation (Post 11441865)
Sadly, NCL has found itself firmly in the new inbound EDI catchment.

Never used to be and no reason why it should remain that way…

ATNotts 28th May 2023 13:00


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 11441866)
Never used to be and no reason why it should remain that way…

Its the 'inbound' factor here. Edinburgh has grown on the back of the higher international profile that being a capital city / seat of government has given it. This has given the impetus to open routes to Edinburgh and they will undoubtedly have sucked some of the oxygen from route development at NCL.

On a different scale NCL suffers with EDI in the same way BHX suffers from the scale of MAN.

SWBKCB 28th May 2023 15:24


Originally Posted by laviation (Post 11441865)
Sadly, NCL has found itself firmly in the new inbound EDI catchment.

Can you expand? What's an inbound catchment would be a good start :ok:

ATNotts 28th May 2023 16:01


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 11441973)
Can you expand? What's an inbound catchment would be a good start :ok:

Catchment clearly doesn't apply so much when talking about inbound leisure travel, where the priority is how far you need to travel to the departure airport. If it wasn't nobody in their right mind would fly to Melbourne (MLB) to visit Orlando theme parks!

What's more, a case could be made for making the drive through the borders to reach a final destination ariund, say, Hexham part of a holiday.

Perhaps turning your question around, if EDI wasn't drawing otherwise NCL destined business, why doesn't NCL hoover up more inbound business. After all the Newcastle hinterland and Scottish Borders have so much commending them for an inbound tourist.

Asturias56 28th May 2023 17:20

EDI also is a starting point for the Highlands - I'll bet 75% of foreign tourists go north and west rather than south and east from Edinburgh.

It has a world wide reputation that Newcastle (and Glasgow) don't

It has the various Festivals as well

Plus it's the Capital of Scotland

jensdad 28th May 2023 22:30


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11442011)
EDI also is a starting point for the Highlands - I'll bet 75% of foreign tourists go north and west rather than south and east from Edinburgh.

It has a world wide reputation that Newcastle (and Glasgow) don't

It has the various Festivals as well

Plus it's the Capital of Scotland

Interestingly, Northumberland benefits from 'northwestwards drift' from the ferry terminal at North Shields. I work at a heritage site in Northumberland, and our second-biggest foreign nationality is Dutch - quite a few of them popping in on their way to Scotland from Shields. I've often considered how a Benelux-Rosyth or Leith ferry service could blow a hole in our visitor numbers.

highwideandugly 29th May 2023 09:43

See more holding due no ATC again..how much longer will this go on for I wonder?

Suggest not a good advert for the airport!

SWBKCB 29th May 2023 09:48


Originally Posted by highwideandugly (Post 11442316)
See more holding due no ATC again..how much longer will this go on for I wonder?

Suggest not a good advert for the airport!

Controller training should be completed in the coming months - it's a long process.

highwideandugly 29th May 2023 10:37

Coming months? Just in time for the quiet winter season!

Diff Tail Shim 29th May 2023 16:57


Originally Posted by highwideandugly (Post 11442350)
Coming months? Just in time for the quiet winter season!

As said before, it takes time. Try a Licenced Engineer. Even longer, years longer.

highwideandugly 30th May 2023 11:27

Looks to be a big problem all over..Teesside just listed similar closures , and no training !

Diff Tail Shim 30th May 2023 15:51


Originally Posted by highwideandugly (Post 11442967)
Looks to be a big problem all over..Teesside just listed similar closures , and no training !

They are training. One of our people has left to do so.

highwideandugly 30th May 2023 16:03

Aircraft..not staff !

Jamesair1 31st May 2023 15:39

Interestingly EDI losing TUI longhaul in Summer 24 in addition to BRS.......so there might be downward drift of pax to NCL from EDI or Westwards to GLA for TUI longhaul flights, TUI concentrating on 5 long haul routes and Ad Hoc flights.

cr. SEAN M

I also note that LM have put back the expansion to 3 daily to SOU from 29th May to 17th July.

nighthawk117 1st Jun 2023 08:48

I think TUI longhaul out of Edinburgh will be mopped up by Virgin and the various other transatlantic options from Edinburgh.

Diff Tail Shim 8th Jun 2023 08:56

Just seen an Envoy with what must be a charter T3 J41 with it land at NCL and go to the dark side. No Royals up here today on the circular and it aint the PM? Anyone know?

s_insania 8th Jun 2023 15:28


Originally Posted by Diff Tail Shim (Post 11447736)
Just seen an Envoy with what must be a charter T3 J41 with it land at NCL and go to the dark side. No Royals up here today on the circular and it aint the PM? Anyone know?

Outbound charter to Luton, positioned in from Aberdeen

Jamesair1 13th Jun 2023 15:55

EXPANSION FROM JET 2....early season 2024

IZMIR AND GERONA season now starts in APRIL

extra flights to:-
REUS...APR/MAY
DUBROVNIK....MAY
IBIZA.....MAR
RHODES.....APR
TENERIFE...APR

HH6702 13th Jun 2023 16:44


Originally Posted by Jamesair1 (Post 11450406)
EXPANSION FROM JET 2....early season 2024

IZMIR AND GERONA season now starts in APRIL

extra flights to:-
REUS...APR/MAY
DUBROVNIK....MAY
IBIZA.....MAR
RHODES.....APR
TENERIFE...APR

fantastic news let’s hope more to come


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