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jensdad 16th Sep 2023 18:03

Other than Venice (one of world tourism's most desirable destinations) and Geneva (UN capital and world banking centre), Newcastle is the smallest city in Emirates' European network.*

* I had a bit too much time on my hands one day during lockdown.

One problem NCL, and Newcastle upon Tyne, has is that we are relatively isolated by English standards, and this leads to an overblown sense of how big or important we really are. We see it in the way NUFC fans got their local MP to ask questions in the House of Commons because a football team that hasn't won the league since 1927 committed the moral outrage of finishing 12th; The way people think that Northumberland has the most stunning coastline in the world (I've actually heard people say that) when it doesn't even have the most stunning coastline between Newcastle and Edinburgh; I could go on.
And sad to say, we also have seen it here when folks have commented about how bad it is that we only have one flight a day to Dubai, and that it doesn't land at a very convenient time.
We punch well above our weight. The folks who run NCL should be looking for new routes, sure, but there's a sense of entitlement in our region that's very interesting for those of us with an interest in psychology and sociology.

Rant over, as people disarmingly say when they think they might've just upset one or two people :)

HotTowelSir 16th Sep 2023 18:40

People seem to think Turkish would be keen to fly into NCL and offer connections through IST. I am not so sure. Wouldn't that just dilute their EDI route. Personally, wouldn't Pegasus into SAW be a more likely proposition, offering cheaper lower fares and service 4+ hours beyond towards the middle east hot-spots as well as Turkey itself. I think they are a better fit for the local demographic, moreso than mainline Turkish.

SWBKCB 16th Sep 2023 19:36

Turkish have publically said that Newcastle and Bristol are in their development plans for the UK.

CabinCrewe 16th Sep 2023 21:51


Originally Posted by HotTowelSir (Post 11503814)
I think they are a better fit for the local demographic, moreso than mainline Turkish.

Don’t get that logic at all. The real aim for any TK route is long haul, full service connections and cheaper than EK. Pegasus don’t offer any of that.
Suspect there are not many using EDI TK from Newcastle conurbation, so doubt that is a worry for anyone. The dilutions would be for EK/KL/BA


HotTowelSir 16th Sep 2023 22:03


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 11503877)
Don’t get that logic at all. The real aim for any TK route is long haul, full service connections and cheaper than EK. Pegasus don’t offer any of that.
Suspect there are not many using EDI TK from Newcastle conurbation, so doubt that is a worry for anyone. The dilutions would be for EK/KL/BA

I get the difference between Emirates and Pegasus. Chalk and cheese. That's why I think Pegasus would be a better option for an Istanbul route. It wouldn't really erode any of Emirates long-haul, but it would offer cheaper alternatives in the mid-haul Arabian Gulf. Pegasus do indeed offer connectivity as well as very good onboard Do & Co catering (granted it's an added cost). Wizz Air channels cheap low cost to the same region via their eastern Europeam hubs due to demand driven for people to head off to DXB/AUH low cost vs full service and by all accounts do well. Pegasus offer a huge network around the region with connections all possible at SAW. Turkish operating a route a little over 100 miles from another airport seems a bit much. NCL isn't greater London.

chris1001 16th Sep 2023 23:31

It’s such a shame that Covid scuppered LH Munich. Considering how well Frankfurt is doing I would love to see them give MUC another shot. Great route for both inbound and outbound passengers.

HH6702 17th Sep 2023 16:45

Love the guessing of what next.

SN Would be nice but been there how many times again

EK rumoured to be going 2x daily evening flight to be added

TK have said they hope to add NCL

SAUDI - talks they maybe adding NCL but also talk of them off to GLA instead. Maybe EDI wins being in the middle ?

Aegean - hopefully we get a longer season maybe an extra flight per week can’t see it massively jumping up for next year

jet2/TUI - I’m sure they will grow with the odd new routes.. jet2 could easily do more city breaks but it’s making money on the routes rather than another PMI !

ryanair - hopefully we get the routes back and they continue to grow. Winter months will be the issue at ncl where to send the aircraft to make money no doubt they can fill a few more during summer months


Asturias56 17th Sep 2023 18:55

"Love the guessing of what next."

Why?? Its pointless.................................

RA85684 17th Sep 2023 19:17


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11504322)
"Love the guessing of what next."

Why?? Its pointless.................................


Wey aye with that attitude. What’s the point in anything then? Shall we all just give up discussing our hobby/passion/livelihood then?

Haway we’re all here for the same reason, aren’t we?

Asturias56 18th Sep 2023 07:31

Up to a point - but the constant barrage of "who is coming next" is really useless

Much more interesting to discuss WHY they're coming (or not)

Hipennine 18th Sep 2023 07:41


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11504489)
Up to a point - but the constant barrage of "who is coming next" is really useless

Much more interesting to discuss WHY they're coming (or not)

Hear, hear!

HH6702 18th Sep 2023 13:50

Play ??

sunshine79 20th Sep 2023 13:17

Ryanair announced its flying to PFO over winter with a NCL based a/c along with increasing capacity on the ALC and TFS routes

SWBKCB 24th Sep 2023 09:48


Originally Posted by ReadyToGo (Post 11494205)
What's going on?
Wroclaw flights (already booked and paid for) canx, refund/rebook but nothing availiable till March?

Not sure if this affects other FR routes


Originally Posted by fl dutchman (Post 11494310)
Are they continuing with the NCL Base ?

Ryanair Winter 23/24

Speaking in Newcastle, Ryanair’s Dara Brady said: "Ryanair is pleased to provide even more choice and lower fares to our Newcastle customers for Winter 23/24 with 12 routes, including a new route to Paphos, and even more flights on two very popular Winter sun routes – Alicante and Tenerife. To support this growth, we will base two based aircraft at Newcastle Airport during Winter 23/24.” "

Ryanair’s new winter schedule for this year includes:
  • 12 routes – including Alicante, Faro, Gran Canaria, Krakow, Malaga and Tenerife.
  • New Paphos route
  • Extra flights on two routes – Alicante (4x per week) and Tenerife (3x per week).


jensdad 25th Sep 2023 00:00

I see the airline exec's definition of the phrase 'New Route' gets another airing there :)

GBYAJ 30th Sep 2023 18:25

Hi, I’ve asked before but does anyone know about Ryanair to Milan next summer - has it been dropped or is there a chance the flights will be released soon???

GeorgeNTravels 30th Sep 2023 19:03


Originally Posted by GBYAJ (Post 11512163)
Hi, I’ve asked before but does anyone know about Ryanair to Milan next summer - has it been dropped or is there a chance the flights will be released soon???

Prestwick airport have said in replies to people that their flights will be "released in October" but nothing other than that unfortunately.

In a press conference this week MoL said that next summer is their biggest schedule but that they may need to stimulate demand in the UK over the next 12 months.

MARKEYD 30th Sep 2023 21:40


Originally Posted by GBYAJ (Post 11512163)
Hi, I’ve asked before but does anyone know about Ryanair to Milan next summer - has it been dropped or is there a chance the flights will be released soon???

Ryanair doesn’t usually release there summer schedules till mid October so hang on in there
Most people don’t book till after Christmas anyway

SWBKCB 2nd Oct 2023 07:49

Been mentioned on the Glasgow thread, but both Newcastle and Glasgow feature on a recent Turkish Airlines investors presentation as potential "Future Routes" (again)

https://investor.turkishairlines.com...ntation(1).pdf

HH6702 3rd Oct 2023 15:17

Jet2
 
Summer 2025 holidays now on sale wonder if we will get something new


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