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CabinCrewe 5th Oct 2019 08:31


Originally Posted by Mr @ Spotty M (Post 10586751)
I see that TUI Fly (Germany) has decided to enter the long-haul market by starting with two B787s.
When and from where they will get them from, l don't know but maybe within the group.

Think I thought they were doing long haul already! Surprising they weren't. At least the group has the experience. I expect they'll come from within the group/current orders.

clipstone1 7th Oct 2019 11:30

TUIfly GmbH operated a couple of B763 4 or 5 years ago, although form memory they didn't carry TUI pax one operated for Eurowings and perhaps the other for Air Berlin (can't rememebr if it was AB)

Otherwise, the last time they actually operated their own longhaul programme, was when they had their fleet of A310 aircraft, the last of which left in 2006

LiamNCL 10th Oct 2019 11:01

Tui hikes UK capacity by two million seats
 
Source:
http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articl...-million-seats

AlanSinfield 10th Oct 2019 11:08

I wonder where all the extra Aircraft are coming from, bearing in mind the MAX issues. Will they be TUI aircraft or Wet leased in???

garry8g 10th Oct 2019 11:11


Originally Posted by LiamNCL (Post 10591049)

Wonder where they will get the aircraft to support this?

H44 10th Oct 2019 11:28

I’m wondering with the recruitment of 100 (presumably airbus rated) pilots from Thomas cook whether there might be plans for some airbus’s to join the fleet, at least temporarily.

LiamNCL 10th Oct 2019 11:36


Originally Posted by garry8g (Post 10591059)
Wonder where they will get the aircraft to support this?

I would throw a dart that they are going to bring in some Airbus ? If not its intresting to see what they have up their sleeve.

OliTom 10th Oct 2019 12:32

Plenty of 737NG's available these days, despite the MAX. There will be no Airbus sub-fleet.

sixchannel 10th Oct 2019 14:14


Originally Posted by clipstone1 (Post 10591162)
a hybrid TCX/TUI colour scheme coming up on A321? (remembering the Airbus has never been in TUI colours, since they were in FCA colours)

The colour scheme would be fascinating if were over the top of one of the ex-MON/TCX hybrid schemes.

VickersVicount 10th Oct 2019 16:29


Originally Posted by clipstone1 (Post 10591162)
a hybrid TCX/TUI colour scheme coming up on A321? (remembering the Airbus has never been in TUI colours, since they were in FCA colours)

Wasn't the Russian arm of TUI A321 not in TUI colours at one point?

sixchannel 10th Oct 2019 16:30


Originally Posted by OliTom (Post 10591104)
Plenty of 737NG's available these days, despite the MAX. There will be no Airbus sub-fleet.

Really? Care to share? :)

VC10man 10th Oct 2019 16:53

I'd love it if they got some more 757s, a brilliant aircraft. I know they won't though, although they could keep the ones they've got, they haven't done that many hours.

A chap I know has joined TUI from Ryanair and is thrilled to be flying 787s soon.

TheFiddler 10th Oct 2019 19:10


they haven't done that many hours
Really!?!?

LiamNCL 10th Oct 2019 20:14


Originally Posted by clipstone1 (Post 10591162)
a hybrid TCX/TUI colour scheme coming up on A321? (remembering the Airbus has never been in TUI colours, since they were in FCA colours)

A Hybrid scheme looking something like this :}

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7e51e39a5.jpeg

sixchannel 10th Oct 2019 20:25


Originally Posted by LiamNCL (Post 10591430)
A Hybrid scheme looking something like this :}

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7e51e39a5.jpeg

Actually, that looks pretty good. Gotta be Photoshop - hasn't it?!

LiamNCL 10th Oct 2019 20:35


Originally Posted by sixchannel (Post 10591442)
Actually, that looks pretty good. Gotta be Photoshop - hasn't it?!

Its a Photoshop but gives an idea of what a TCX/TUI hybrid would look like if it was to come about.

BILLBOY80 10th Oct 2019 20:46


Originally Posted by TheFiddler (Post 10591382)
Really!?!?

The average age of the TUI 757 fleet is 19 years old. If you look at their oldest 757 G-BYAW (ex Britannia) (24 years old) then it’s done around 87,000 hours and G-BYAY (ex Britannia) (21 years old) 76,000 hours then yes they have. However if you look at the 757’s inherited through the merger with Air 2000/First Choice Airways then most have plenty of flying hours left in them. G-OOBF (ex Air 2000/First Choice Airways) (15 years old), the youngest has only 45,000 flying hours. G-OOBC, G-OOBD, G-OOBE along with the previously mentioned G-OOBF are some of the youngest 757 frames out there (all delivered new to the airline (Air 2000/First Choice Airways as it was at the time prior to the merger) and have flown 51,000 hours or less. G-OOBA, G-OOBB, G-OOBP and G-OOBN have all also flown less than 57,000 hours. G-CPEV and G-OOBG both have around 65,000 hours so you can argue they are starting to get on a bit but are still relatively young compared with Jet2’s 757 fleet. Their 757 fleet has an average age of nearly 30 years. A number of their most heavily used examples have flown over 80,000 hours. So although far from young the vast majority of the TUI 757 fleet have plenty of flying hours left in them. Hence they are prime candidates for freighter conversion, once they finish their passenger duties.

caaardiff 10th Oct 2019 21:58


Originally Posted by H44 (Post 10591071)
I’m wondering with the recruitment of 100 (presumably airbus rated) pilots from Thomas cook whether there might be plans for some airbus’s to join the fleet, at least temporarily.

I would've thought the recruitment for 2019 crews would've been put on hold or at least slowed down given the Max groundings. So any recruitment TUI mention probably covers any 2019 top ups and 2020 expansion. Really can't see A321's in the fleet unless they are leased in from another Airlines. The introduction of a new fleet type takes a hell of a lot of time, work and money to execute, and would unlikely be worth it if it's only a temporary measure until new Boeing aircraft arrive.
It's more than likely TUI Holidays will find capacity elsewhere (EZY/DY/VY) and TUI Airways will try and keep some of the 757's 767's longer to support capacity increases.

compton3bravo 11th Oct 2019 09:56

Regarding aircraft it has been reported that Titan are getting an A330-200 for summer 2020, I wonder who will it be flying for?

rog747 11th Oct 2019 10:00


Originally Posted by compton3bravo (Post 10591839)
Regarding aircraft it has been reported that Titan are getting an A330-200 for summer 2020, I wonder who will it be flying for?

For anyone who still has 787 grounding/AOG issues...Virgin BA Norwegian....?


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