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Vokes55 17th Sep 2019 21:50

That’s never been the plan. At least 4 were always due to be around in S20. The 767s are staying for another 3-4 years at least.

liam4393 17th Sep 2019 22:15

I’ve flown on BA, BB, BD, BE, BF and BP this summer, all of which had mild cabin refurbs ahead of Summer 2019 with new leather seat covers. Surely TUI would not go to the expense if these aircraft were only to be around for a year?

BN and BG still with unrefurbished seats (although the latter should not have been around Summer 2020 anyway). Have not flown on AW, AY or BC this Summer (yet! Maybe this weekend!).

LiamNCL 17th Sep 2019 22:32

Jethros had them all down for disposal W19/20 thats all im saying.

azz767 18th Sep 2019 08:44

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...routes-in-w19/

Seems the 767's, in some way or another are sticking around for winter (usually op for Tui Nordic in winter). Whether its one a/c rotating in from Scandi to operate these flights or whether more are due to be announced and both will have a full schedule of UK flying through the winter.

VickersVicount 19th Sep 2019 17:09


pamann 19th Sep 2019 20:56


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 10573808)

only available to subscribers. Can you elaborate?

SALENO 22nd Sep 2019 07:26

G-OOBD MARRAKESH
 
Looks like another expensive time for TUI with G-OOBD still on the ground in Marrakesh. Outbound flight on 20 Sep left 3 hours late from Manchester with the return flight diverting back into Marrakesh where it remains. Pax eventually brought home late yesterday on B787 G-TUIA. Interestingly G-OOBD returned to Manchester on 19 Sep whilst flying to Thessaloniki. Certainly been a challenging summer for TUI and many others.

DaveReidUK 22nd Sep 2019 08:23


Originally Posted by SALENO (Post 10575842)
Looks like another expensive time for TUI with G-OOBD still on the ground in Marrakesh. Outbound flight on 20 Sep left 3 hours late from Manchester with the return flight diverting back into Marrakesh where it remains. Pax eventually brought home late yesterday on B787 G-TUIA. Interestingly G-OOBD returned to Manchester on 19 Sep whilst flying to Thessaloniki. Certainly been a challenging summer for TUI and many others.

In other words, a typical day for any large charter/scheduled carrier.

boeing_eng 22nd Sep 2019 09:38

In other words, a typical day for any large charter/scheduled carrier.

Indeed!...Some of the posters on this thread are clearly drama queens (or soliciting for reactions!)

pabloc 24th Sep 2019 09:37

How easy/difficult could It be for Tui to incorporate ex TCX Airbuses into fleet plus type pilots then wet leasing , I understand that the leases this summer were due to the MAX situation and hopefully will be back on line soon , but to pick up with supply/demand due to the sad demise of TCX....

pamann 24th Sep 2019 09:56


Originally Posted by pabloc (Post 10578045)
How easy/difficult could It be for Tui to incorporate ex TCX Airbuses into fleet plus type pilots then wet leasing , I understand that the leases this summer were due to the MAX situation and hopefully will be back on line soon , but to pick up with supply/demand due to the sad demise of TCX....

I wondered this too. With no definitive date for the Max’s to return to the sky. Plus TUI aren’t unfamiliar with the A320 family as they were part of the fleet post FCA merger. Could be a good opportunity and would create some much needed employment opportunities too.

LiamNCL 24th Sep 2019 11:24


Originally Posted by pamann (Post 10578069)


I wondered this too. With no definitive date for the Max’s to return to the sky. Plus TUI aren’t unfamiliar with the A320 family as they were part of the fleet post FCA merger. Could be a good opportunity and would create some much needed employment opportunities too.

It could well be the only real solution to what will be a problem come next summer.

t-bag 24th Sep 2019 19:27

Airframes, and hopefully, crews long gone by spring 20.
No one wants the financial drag of unnecessary equipment and crews over the winter.

ROC10 24th Sep 2019 19:38


Originally Posted by t-bag (Post 10578570)
Airframes, and hopefully, crews long gone by spring 20.
No one wants the financial drag of unnecessary equipment and crews over the winter.

Which airframes and crews exactly are you alluding to?

LiamNCL 24th Sep 2019 20:09


Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10578579)


Which airframes and crews exactly are you alluding to?

The suggestion of TUI taking some of TCX aircraft and crew.

PDXCWL45 24th Sep 2019 20:24

Maybe a left field suggestion for TUI but could they end up wet leasing Norwegian aircraft? Especially if Norwegian are cutting routes. Say 8 to 10 737s and 2 787 9s? They already use them at Gatwick so have an established relationship with them and it would fill the capacity gap with aircraft they are familiar with.

pamann 24th Sep 2019 21:03


Ref Tui and Norwegian


They already use them at Gatwick
I’ve heard from a reliable source that this has ended.

pabloc 24th Sep 2019 21:19


Originally Posted by t-bag (Post 10578570)
Airframes, and hopefully, crews long gone by spring 20.
No one wants the financial drag of unnecessary equipment and crews over the winter.

Surely with what Tui have got in aircraft and crew,won’t be enough ,even if the MAX gets the go ahead...Demand for holidays/flights will remain the same but with the demise of TCX as a main player it’s the ideal opportunity to cover that demand.

caaardiff 24th Sep 2019 22:25

With demand far outweighing supply over the next year or 2 at least, prices will highly likely go up for summer holidays. It would be interesting to see if there is a shift to more winter holidays if prices are cheaper. TUI would be able to provide the capacity during the winter, with aircraft often only operating one flight per day at the smaller bases, and not sending some aircraft over the pond. Summer seasonal crews can be extended too.

Vokes55 25th Sep 2019 00:36


Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 (Post 10578609)
Maybe a left field suggestion for TUI but could they end up wet leasing Norwegian aircraft? Especially if Norwegian are cutting routes. Say 8 to 10 737s and 2 787 9s? They already use them at Gatwick so have an established relationship with them and it would fill the capacity gap with aircraft they are familiar with.

Norwegian are cutting routes because they don’t have the aircraft due to the MAX and RR issues. So no



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