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Maybe because ABR don't have authority to op non-EU a/c to Turkey?
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 10560888)
Maybe because ABR don't have authority to op non-EU a/c to Turkey?
I suppose the main question is, why are the flights by ABR and not BY/TOM? |
Originally Posted by ROC10
(Post 10560909)
That could be the reason, even though Turkey is not a member of the EU, I guess there may be restrictions on the Canadian a/c.
I suppose the main question is, why are the flights by ABR and not BY/TOM? |
Originally Posted by ROC10
(Post 10560909)
That could be the reason, even though Turkey is not a member of the EU, I guess there may be restrictions on the Canadian a/c.
I suppose the main question is, why are the flights by ABR and not BY/TOM? |
Originally Posted by LBAflyer22
(Post 10560934)
Sunwing flew for TUI out of LBA to DLM last year.
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Originally Posted by Fly757X
(Post 10560973)
From what I remember those flights were operated by ABR a few years ago and CLJ last year. Because of the lack of lease capacity this year (ABR not being available as EI-STA now operates for Aer Lingus during the winter) TOM have operated them, on behalf of ABR this year. Now I’m not 100% sure but I’ve read or heard that before and it could well be wrong. It’s something like that anyway. |
Originally Posted by ROC10
(Post 10560991)
I see, so these may not be TUI Holiday flights at all then?
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TUI Holidays have now quite a lot of 3rd party airlines flying for them during the past few summers instead of using in-house TUI Airways, with departures mainly out of the Outstations -
EXT NWI CWL SOU SEN BOH BRS ABZ DUB to name a few. Volotea, Freebird, Alba Star, Sunwing, Flybe, Norwegian, ASL - Not just ACMI charters to cover the MAX debacle, but many regular charter series for the past few summers...Turkey, Spain and the Canaries being the majority of flights but not exclusively so. |
Originally Posted by rog747
(Post 10561389)
TUI Holidays have now quite a lot of 3rd party airlines flying for them during the past few summers instead of using in-house TUI Airways, with departures mainly out of the Outstations -
EXT NWI CWL SOU SEN BOH BRS ABZ DUB to name a few. Volotea, Freebird, Alba Star, Sunwing, Flybe, Norwegian, ASL - Not just ACMI charters to cover the MAX debacle, but many regular charter series for the past few summers...Turkey, Spain and the Canaries being the majority of flights but not exclusively so. |
How did they operate in 2018, I can't remember but I think it was Sunwing aircraft. They are trying to end this in 2020.
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Originally Posted by EI-EIDW
(Post 10562723)
How did they operate in 2018, I can't remember but I think it was Sunwing aircraft. They are trying to end this in 2020.
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DUB-DLM didnt operate with TUI in 2018. It was re introduced this year along with DUB PFO. EI-STA operated it until 2017 but the route was dropped for S18. |
Originally Posted by Fly757X
(Post 10562735)
As in end the Sunwing agreement?
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Originally Posted by EI-EIDW
(Post 10562755)
No having to send over an aircraft operate DUB-DLM. |
Originally Posted by ROC10
(Post 10537452)
I flew on G-TAWO recently, and whilst boarding, I noticed that the words “Operated by Thomson Airways” were to the right of the forward door. I found this a bit surprising, considering they have been officially called TUI Airways since late 2017. I flew on this same aircraft in January and can’t remember seeing this (although it may well have been there). It actually made me wonder whether this is legally/technically incorrect or am I overthinking it? Regardless, I feel it should probably have been removed/updated by this point, unless they are reverting to an official name of Thomson Airways (seems very unlikely)? Thanks for the heads up.....:) |
From FR24, it looks like all the aircraft leased by Tui from Olympus have gone to Athens - presumably due to the summer peak being over and the extra lift no longer being needed.
Can anyone confirm this is the case, or will these aircraft be returning to Tui service before the end of October ? Assuming the 737 Max returns to service by April 2020, should we expect Olympus aircraft to be back with Tui again in summer 2020 or is this rather unlikely ? |
TUI are in an awkward position over decisions that have to be made now over capacity and lift required for next summer.
Re the 737 MAX they are 9 aircraft down (AOG) for this summer and more were due for delivery next year. Around 10-12 757's have had there time with TUI extended for this summer, but are slated to currently go (withdrawn or sold) during, or at the end of the upcoming winter season. So do TUI still hang onto those for next summer's plans just in case, plus the 2 767's? The 757's may need costly MX checks to further extend their time with TUI, but faced with more ACMI charter costs that maybe more beneficial to hang on to them. The 757's are used for the busy longer winter routes such as Cape Verde Islands and Hurghada which are popular winter sun destinations where the MAX was due to take over these. As for the 737 MAX RTS - How long is a piece of string? Keeping the 757's going for another year maybe IMHO very wise, but I guess there have been plenty of boardroom meetings happening now at TUI HQ. Hanging onto them though if the MAX does not return for next summer, will still see a lack of capacity unless TUI cancels holidays. |
Originally Posted by rog747
(Post 10571846)
The 757's are used for the busy longer winter routes such as Cape Verde Islands and Hurghada
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Don’t think all the 757s are going at the end of the Winter season. Although a few may go, confirmed to me by a TUI 757 Captain that they’ll be around for a few years yet. |
Originally Posted by liam4393
(Post 10572381)
Don’t think all the 757s are going at the end of the Winter season. Although a few may go, confirmed to me by a TUI 757 Captain that they’ll be around for a few years yet. |
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