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BHD2BFS 16th Oct 2019 10:59

Does tui have plans to increase operation at bfs?

Plane mad 134 16th Oct 2019 11:47

And any plans to expand EDI/GLA?

LiamNCL 16th Oct 2019 11:51


Originally Posted by Plane mad 134 (Post 10595630)
And any plans to expand EDI/GLA?

GLA was mentioned along with NCL MAN DSA & BHX

Severn 16th Oct 2019 12:18

BRS has a based 787 in S20 and it is currently planned to operate a mix of short, mid and long-haul flights:
Mon: LPA / BOJ
Tue: CUN
Wed:PMI/ LCA
Thu: SFB
Fri: CUN
Sat: PMI / DLM
Sun: HER / AYT

inOban 16th Oct 2019 13:50


Originally Posted by Plane mad 134 (Post 10595630)
And any plans to expand EDI/GLA?

TCX didn't operate out of EDI (OK, think they offered some destinations using EZY and in S18 they offered Antalya ? on a W pattern.)
I'm always surprised that they don't offer a substantial longhaul program from Edinburgh. They steal a 787 from another base to provide just four weeks of trips to Florida and Mexico.

ROC10 16th Oct 2019 14:00


Originally Posted by inOban (Post 10595727)
TCX didn't operate out of EDI (OK, think they offered some destinations using EZY and in S18 they offered Antalya ? on a W pattern.)
I'm always surprised that they don't offer a substantial longhaul program from Edinburgh. They steal a 787 from another base to provide just four weeks of trips to Florida and Mexico.

Yes, I’ve always said I think they’d do very well on long haul out of EDI, on CUN and SFB, but even on some other l/h destinations, especially if not served at GLA. Even basing a 787 at GLA and using this for regular EDI flights would make sense. I don’t think we’ll see more EDI flights any time soon but a GLA 787 base could be on the cards, especially with the loss of TCX.

LBAflyer22 16th Oct 2019 16:33


Originally Posted by Severn (Post 10595659)
BRS has a based 787 in S20 and it is currently planned to operate a mix of short, mid and long-haul flights:
Mon: LPA / BOJ
Tue: CUN
Wed:PMI/ LCA
Thu: SFB
Fri: CUN
Sat: PMI / DLM
Sun: HER / AYT

Great for BRS. But little to no difference to S19. I think this summer a 78 went to Cape Verde.

Yeehaw22 16th Oct 2019 17:44


Originally Posted by LBAflyer22 (Post 10595861)
Great for BRS. But little to no difference to S19. I think this summer a 78 went to Cape Verde.

Why are you always so negative on this thread? Maybe your username implies an allegiance to another company but being so down on everything on this thread is getting tiring.

EZYMAN 16th Oct 2019 18:02

738 made a Regular trip to Cape Verde from BRS

LBAflyer22 16th Oct 2019 18:45



Originally Posted by Yeehaw22 (Post 10595925)
Why are you always so negative on this thread? Maybe your username implies an allegiance to another company but being so down on everything on this thread is getting tiring.

Why is pointing out little difference to the previous summer negative may I ask? It’s brilliant for the local economy and airport of BRS that TUI plan to station a 787 for the whole of summer 2020 and proves the market can sustain the 787. Brilliant for TUI good for the airport. I don’t get how I’m been negative on this. It’s not like it’s something brand new for the airport in S20 I’m just saying little difference to the S19.

Id also like to point out my previous post was simply responding to someone who said the PR of 2,000,000 extra seats (which a further post up there has pointed out it’s not mathematically possible without significant aircraft acquisitions) maybe a clear message to Jet2. I, quite rightly, pointed out I doubt at as it was a PR exercise and that’s it. There has been little proof of this expansion yet! Flip reverse it and Jet2 today have put some significant expansion out of MAN and further out of LBA and BHX and a new route. The announcement, apart from the LBA news, is yet to happen. TUI have shouted but are yet to put it on sale.

Im Yorkshire bloke, im Leeds based so obviously I appreciate Jet2 as it’s good for the local economy. However I understand the aviation industry (which I have a degree in) to understand competition is always good. I want TUI to expand and give Jet2 competition.

Oh and just for the record - id love a 4th based unit at DSA

LBAflyer22 16th Oct 2019 18:46


Originally Posted by EZYMAN (Post 10595935)
738 made a Regular trip to Cape Verde from BRS

that I didn’t know. Interesting - didn’t think a 738 could do that? I know a 757 would eat the BRS-Cape Verde route for breakfast. Did it tech stop?

ROC10 16th Oct 2019 19:00


Originally Posted by LBAflyer22 (Post 10595979)


that I didn’t know. Interesting - didn’t think a 738 could do that? I know a 757 would eat the BRS-Cape Verde route for breakfast. Did it tech stop?

This route has traditionally been on the 757 and was for W17 and W18 as recent examples. For S18, TUI upgraded the route to 788. Then for S19, the route moved to the 738. There was never a tech stop.

It is currently back on the 757 and has been since the beginning of October due to fewer routes this month. I’m not sure what the plans are for W19 at BRS but could well return to the 738 in November,

CabinCrewe 16th Oct 2019 19:11

would have thought well within 738 range. Isnt it similar to some of the Egypt routes?
And 788 seems overkill.

Yeehaw22 16th Oct 2019 19:16


Originally Posted by LBAflyer22 (Post 10595975)



Why is pointing out little difference to the previous summer negative may I ask? It’s brilliant for the local economy and airport of BRS that TUI plan to station a 787 for the whole of summer 2020 and proves the market can sustain the 787. Brilliant for TUI good for the airport. I don’t get how I’m been negative on this. It’s not like it’s something brand new for the airport in S20 I’m just saying little difference to the S19.

Id also like to point out my previous post was simply responding to someone who said the PR of 2,000,000 extra seats (which a further post up there has pointed out it’s not mathematically possible without significant aircraft acquisitions) maybe a clear message to Jet2. I, quite rightly, pointed out I doubt at as it was a PR exercise and that’s it. There has been little proof of this expansion yet! Flip reverse it and Jet2 today have put some significant expansion out of MAN and further out of LBA and BHX and a new route. The announcement, apart from the LBA news, is yet to happen. TUI have shouted but are yet to put it on sale.

Im Yorkshire bloke, im Leeds based so obviously I appreciate Jet2 as it’s good for the local economy. However I understand the aviation industry (which I have a degree in) to understand competition is always good. I want TUI to expand and give Jet2 competition.

Oh and just for the record - id love a 4th based unit at DSA

Because every time anyone posts anything you talk it down. Whether it's because your a realist or just being negative I genuinely dont know, but to me it comes across negative.

Yes the 2m thing is a massive pr exercise, but it will be backed up or they are going to look pretty stupid. Theres already an increase on 3rd party seats coming online and I suspect a larger amount to come. There will be additional airframes coming, the pilot recruitment shows that, but from where no one is sure yet.

Dont forget the sad demise of thomas cook has brought TUI a lot of work to do. Sorting end of summer 19 bookings on Thomas cook flights, then winter 19 flights, that along side the max issues, End of leases etc. Its amazing they're expanding at all as the german mothership is renowned for being conservative. Give it a couple of weeks to see what gets announced rather than getting negative right from the off.

LBAflyer22 16th Oct 2019 19:18


Originally Posted by CabinCrewe (Post 10596000)
would have thought well within 738 range. Isnt it similar to some of the Egypt routes?
And 788 seems overkill.

BRS has a short runway and typical weather to LBA - only advantage is into wind. I’ve never seen TUI use a 738 on UK-Cape Verde routes.

i suspect this winter the 763 will rotate through Verde.

788 to Verde - was this when Turkey suffered a little decline?

MerchantVenturer 16th Oct 2019 19:26


Originally Posted by Severn (Post 10595659)
BRS has a based 787 in S20 and it is currently planned to operate a mix of short, mid and long-haul flights:
Mon: LPA / BOJ
Tue: CUN
Wed: PMI/ LCA
Thu: SFB
Fri: CUN
Sat: PMI / DLM
Sun: HER / AYT



Originally Posted by LBAflyer22 (Post 10595975)
Why is pointing out little difference to the previous summer negative may I ask? It’s brilliant for the local economy and airport of BRS that TUI plan to station a 787 for the whole of summer 2020 and proves the market can sustain the 787. Brilliant for TUI good for the airport. I don’t get how I’m been negative on this. It’s not like it’s something brand new for the airport in S20 I’m just saying little difference to the S19.



There is some expansion at BRS for summer 2020 over summer 2019 in terms of the Boeing 787-8. In 2019 the aircraft was 'based' for five days each week - the current plans for next summer are for it to be there every day of the week as Severn has indicated.

Summer 2019 saw this programme:

Tuesday: Cancun
Wednesday: Dalaman
Thursday: Dubrovnik, Larnaca
Friday: Sanford
Saturday: Cancun

The long-haul programme remains the same (3 per week) in 2020 but short-haul has been increased from 3 per week to 8 per week.

LiamNCL 16th Oct 2019 19:35


Originally Posted by MerchantVenturer (Post 10596021)
There is some expansion at BRS for summer 2020 over summer 2019 in terms of the Boeing 787-8. In 2019 the aircraft was 'based' for five days each week - the current plans for next summer are for it to be there every day of the week as Severn has indicated.

Summer 2019 saw this programme:

Tuesday: Cancun
Wednesday: Dalaman
Thursday: Dubrovnik, Larnaca
Friday: Sanford
Saturday: Cancun

The long-haul programme remains the same (3 per week) in 2020 but short-haul has been increased from 3 per week to 8 per week.

Ive heard it was between BRS & NCL on which one got the 787 based and BRS won out ? Great for BRS anyway great aircraft.

azz767 16th Oct 2019 20:10


Originally Posted by MerchantVenturer (Post 10596021)
There is some expansion at BRS for summer 2020 over summer 2019 in terms of the Boeing 787-8. In 2019 the aircraft was 'based' for five days each week - the current plans for next summer are for it to be there every day of the week as Severn has indicated.

Summer 2019 saw this programme:

Tuesday: Cancun
Wednesday: Dalaman
Thursday: Dubrovnik, Larnaca
Friday: Sanford
Saturday: Cancun

The long-haul programme remains the same (3 per week) in 2020 but short-haul has been increased from 3 per week to 8 per week.

was this done on a long haul 787 with premium or a short haul one with all economy? Great for some pax if it was in a long haul config

LBAflyer22 16th Oct 2019 20:32


Originally Posted by Yeehaw22 (Post 10596008)
Because every time anyone posts anything you talk it down. Whether it's because your a realist or just being negative I genuinely dont know, but to me it comes across negative.

Yes the 2m thing is a massive pr exercise, but it will be backed up or they are going to look pretty stupid. Theres already an increase on 3rd party seats coming online and I suspect a larger amount to come. There will be additional airframes coming, the pilot recruitment shows that, but from where no one is sure yet.

Dont forget the sad demise of thomas cook has brought TUI a lot of work to do. Sorting end of summer 19 bookings on Thomas cook flights, then winter 19 flights, that along side the max issues, End of leases etc. Its amazing they're expanding at all as the german mothership is renowned for being conservative. Give it a couple of weeks to see what gets announced rather than getting negative right from the off.

I’m a realist more the anything. I want them to be successful but I’m one of these guys - do the work and sing about it not sing and then do the work.

TUI have a reputation at my local airport for announcing programmes and then canning them.Or adding a route then sending all booked customers to MAN and canning that route. Maybe I’m a realist because of that. Like I’ve said before we shall see. And I can’t wait to see what they are going to offer, but I’d rather the PR be done after the work.


ROC10 16th Oct 2019 22:02


Originally Posted by azz767 (Post 10596065)


was this done on a long haul 787 with premium or a short haul one with all economy? Great for some pax if it was in a long haul config

Long-haul config as the aircraft also flew l/h routes three days a week from BRS and 2 days a week from EMA/EDI (dependent on season).


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