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Gurnard 23rd Jul 2020 17:41

What's the latest regarding the nine second-hand B737-800s which we understand were acquired to cover for the loss of the MAX? Is this additional capacity needed now? One ex-Norwegian a/c is all painted up and has been parked at Lasham for 4 months.

pabely 23rd Jul 2020 18:06

Very much doubt any are needed this year, if the Max does arrive neither next. I think they are happy using the dreamliners to combine flights to the bucket and spade routes.
I'm sure exit any lease commitments would have been a top priority once it was clear there would be no normal S20 program

737James 23rd Jul 2020 18:09

I know Tui have said about using the Dreamliner on short haul routes from a few bases where they have reduced the frequency of flights until the Long Haul season starts again in November, Does anyone know at present are any Birmingham flights planned to be on the 787 this summer ?

ROC10 26th Jul 2020 11:52


hec7or 26th Jul 2020 12:21

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c09d65b6bf.png


Some conflicting information here, hardly surprising given the timescale.

TOM100 26th Jul 2020 13:17

So presumably based on their “Holiday Promise” people who do not wish to travel to the Canaries (even if TUI operate) can opt for a refund or credit ? As they state they won’t operate if guests have to quarantine in resort or on arrival back home ?

Yeehaw22 26th Jul 2020 13:30


Originally Posted by TOM100 (Post 10846691)
So presumably based on their “Holiday Promise” people who do not wish to travel to the Canaries (even if TUI operate) can opt for a refund or credit ? As they state they won’t operate if guests have to quarantine in resort or on arrival back home ?

Thats what has been communicated

https://www.tui.co.uk/destinations/t...ange-for-spain

TOM100 26th Jul 2020 14:05


Originally Posted by Yeehaw22 (Post 10846704)

That’s not what that says (how I read it) - it says holidays to the islands will continue and those with holidays to mainland Spain up until 9 August will be proactively contacted and offered choices. It is pretty vague on the islands other than saying they will continue.

ROC10 26th Jul 2020 14:18


Originally Posted by TOM100 (Post 10846733)
That’s not what that says (how I read it) - it says holidays to the islands will continue and those with holidays to mainland Spain up until 9 August will be proactively contacted and offered choices. It is pretty vague on the islands other than saying they will continue.

I agree, it’s not particularly clear whether they’ll be offering refunds to those going to the islands who cannot or do not wish to quarantine on return. Based on their “promise”, I would expect that they will be included in the customers being contacted but that page seems to imply that all those who are contacted will be offered a refund/credit and not the option to travel. As always, it ought to be clearer, but I suppose they’re probably still figuring things out.

Perhaps they’ll offer a reduced programme to Spain from one or two bases for those wishing to travel? Numbers will be way down so I doubt the planned operation from various regional bases will be viable.

TOM100 26th Jul 2020 14:29


Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10846737)
I agree, it’s not particularly clear whether they’ll be offering refunds to those going to the islands who cannot or do not wish to quarantine on return. Based on their “promise”, I would expect that they will be included in the customers being contacted but that page seems to imply that all those who are contacted will be offered a refund/credit and not the option to travel. As always, it ought to be clearer, but I suppose they’re probably still figuring things out.

Perhaps they’ll offer a reduced programme to Spain from one or two bases for those wishing to travel? Numbers will be way down so I doubt the planned operation from various regional bases will be viable.

i agree am sure they are still figuring it out. If they don’t offer refund or credit to those travelling to the islands who will now have to quarantine, then their ‘promise’ isn’t really worth that much.....

Yeehaw22 26th Jul 2020 14:33

We will be proactively contacting all customers with bookings up to and including 9 August to either arrange a full refund or the option to rebook their holiday with a booking incentive.

They will offer a refund or credit to anyone not wishing to travel to the islands and quarantine on return. Which makes you wonder if there's some negotiations ongoing to reinstate the travel corridor to the Canaries and balearics.



ROC10 26th Jul 2020 15:03


Originally Posted by Yeehaw22 (Post 10846750)
We will be proactively contacting all customers with bookings up to and including 9 August to either arrange a full refund or the option to rebook their holiday with a booking incentive.

They will offer a refund or credit to anyone not wishing to travel to the islands and quarantine on return. Which makes you wonder if there's some negotiations ongoing to reinstate the travel corridor to the Canaries and balearics.

If that’s true, then good news, but I still wouldn’t say that quote is particularly clear for the reasons mentioned above.

I’m sure there will be lots or negotiations going on.

ROC10 28th Jul 2020 16:41

TUI now offering free amends on bookings made before the end of September for holidays up to the end of April 2021.

https://www.tui.co.uk/destinations/i...-new-customers

pabely 3rd Aug 2020 11:45

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/tu...081806223.html
EZY do this all the time but is this normal for TUI ?

LGS6753 4th Aug 2020 09:06

Normal practice across many industries. Property, vehicles, aircraft and other assets are often sold then leased back as a way of strengthening balance sheets, and giving the company working capital.

pabely 4th Aug 2020 11:48

I know but the uninformed press keep on banging on about it implying cash flow issues!

clipstone1 17th Aug 2020 13:58

don' think these aircraft have even been delivered yet. It is quite normal for TUI to not own any aircraft (was about 2 or 3 out of a fleet of 150), they order them then before delivery do as sale and lease back deal.

ChilliP 15th Sep 2020 10:17

Max8 repatriation
 
See TUI have received dispensation to recover G-TUMF from Tenerife South today, having spent 18 months grounded and has left c. 1040 this morning.

Gurnard 15th Sep 2020 10:59

MAX FLYING
G-TUMF which has been grounded at TFS for 18 months is currently on the way back to the UK at FL180 - possibly via Malaga.

116d 15th Sep 2020 12:32


Originally Posted by Gurnard (Post 10885770)
MAX FLYING
G-TUMF which has been grounded at TFS for 18 months is currently on the way back to the UK at FL180 - possibly via Malaga.

On descent into AGP as we speak.

Do we know if it's heading to MAN to join the other grounded TUI MAX's or elsewhere?


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