Is Fowler Welch a top 3 player in its markets or is it a relatively minor player ?
Is there any major overlap between Jet2 and FW which allows significant cost savings ?
In normal times - which generates higher return on equity ?

A company that does food distribution and also an airline seems a little unfocussed to me - Dart have to decide what kind of company they want to be, what their core market is and then do it well

Not suggested but implied. The implication was why would you sell off a profitable part of the business. Well because, 100m driven into a potentially more profitable business is better than 3.9M per annum. Heaven forbid someone see's the logic in the decision. Alas I can see the logic.

Sell your peripheral businesses to protect your core or keep a broad base of activities to maintain the resilience of the whole? Either are valid, I can see the logic of both...

I presume negotiations have been going on for some time probably before Covid19 surfaced.

Agreed to a point. But when the peripheral reaches a level so insignificant to the core, the capital value is worth more than return on investment. This is where I see the Dart group investors have weighed up the options and wisely decided the FWC operation is not in their interests to keep. I have to agree.

You need to read up on the company history, without Fowler Welch there would be no Jet2.com. Unfocused is not a word to describe Mr. Meeson, this sale would be a massive wrench to him. Looks like the money from the sale will aid the business he is now only concentrated on.

The Gimp

I'm very much aware of Dart pre Jet2, but at some point a company has to decide what it wants to be... and it looks like they have done so

Many of the Fowler Welch trucks are also mobile advertising bill-boards for Jet2/Jet2 Holidays, so I guess we'll see the end of that?

Have just received word that these were indeed charters for the repatriation of Chinese students in the U.K.

As mentioned before, a similar flight will be operated on June 6th. Pax flights STN-ATH, positioning back.

It was a repatriation flight for Chinese students to catch a flight from Athens back to China.

I suppose they will Covid19 test them in Athens, isolate them overnight, and allow them to proceed if clear. This is what they plan for summer visitors

Jet2 2020 Schedule
 

Does anyone have inside information when Jet2 are likely to announce there flight schedule for July/August

We know common knowledge that 1st July is the likely outcome for most airlines.

As example MAN/PMI Ryanair was genuinely 3 flights per day pre covid-19 before schedule was updated and are now daily in July and mostly 2 daily in August Easyjet was genuinely 2 daily flights but schedule updated to 5 weekly before mid July, then daily rest of July and mainly double daily in August.

However jet 2 still have on sale 3 daily flights in July and August which I very much doubt will be the case even 01/07/20 shows 3 flights each way

I hardly think such information would would be made available on a public forum like this, you are probably better asking them the question direct via their Facebook or twitter pages.

i doubt they will even know this at the minute it changes every day or week

which countries will allow us in
how many pax are willing to still travel and haven’t changed plans.

which airports will be open
which hotels will be open
resorts will be open

too much to even think about at the minute

As above. I also suspect the 1st July will be exceptionally optimistic for any of the package tour operators to recommence.

Regardless of the logistics of all the above there needs to be an announcement of the FCO travel advice relaxation and also the mythical 'air bridges' to be established. These would need to be announced in the next couple of days to have any hope of a July 1st restart.

There's also the small matter of getting the workforce back into work and the no small task of getting the aircraft out of storage ready for service.

We are talking about flights starting in 3 weeks

What airports are closed?

Hotels are opening in Spain and other Countries and these don't just say oh by the way we open tomorrow,it will take time for hotels to be operational staff/food services put back into place, this would start many weeks before opening

Resorts are open, but with less capacity in bars/shops/hotels etc

Find it hard to believe that Ryanair and easyjet can plan for over two months in advance, but jet2 don't yet know,

European airlines are restarting on a reduced frequency,Emirates are starting reduced frequency and set out plans to September but Jet2 are still showing full schedule as pre covid19 starting on there first day of operations after no flights at all for over 2 months

Are they just hoping customers are stupid enough to think they have more flights available that other airlines take there money then to tell them sorry we are only operating 1 flight a day not 3 a day or 1 flight a week not 3 flights a week but you can change your flight just away to get that extra bit of £££££ in before cancelling your flight

I had a jet2 flight cancelled for later this month. I got an email setting out options, but if I wanted a refund to wait and they would be in contact, they were dealing with flights in order. A few days later I got an email saying they were processing a refund. Two days later money was back into my account. I never had to lift the phone. Isn't it really disappointing that they have given me no reason at all to complain.

I also had a flight cancelled and got refund easy and quite fast considering the situation, also had good response from Easyjet refund to card for one flight and various vouchers for others which are more suited to me than refunds, Ryanair no refund just vouchers
So for customer service during recent times yes Jet2 have been alot better than others, but the question remains why still show full schedule with just over 3 weeks notice when knowingly that full schedule will not be happening and neither will it be with any airline

Package tour operators cannot operate with the current FCO travel advice in place. They pretty much cannot operate with the farcical quarantine in place.

Thanks Yeehaw22 wasn't aware above makes bit more sense

Easyjet/ryanair have packages also but suppose they have more flight only bookings also compared to Jet2 and this government is doing it's best to kill the airline/tourist industry

I think this is a very fluid situation and reading the papers yesterday there is pressure coming from many sources.

The killer at the moment is the FO no travel notice which in effect leaves you on your own and insurance invalid.

To have this removed by 01.07.20 is tight as the 21 day period takes us almost to the month end.
Clearly Government have top give a steer and I think " air bridges" are being worked on.

Nobody knows how they will work or how aircraft will operate.
I am struggling to see much moving on 01.07 but rather a slow opening up during late july.

Just where will people holiday this year?
UK hotels closed and no sign of a formal date ( they need time as well) and most uk resorts closed in the sense of pubs/toilets etc its going to be a right mess.

Tiger

Its worth noting the advise from the Foreign Office changed very subtly from ‘Advising against all but essential travel indefinitely’, to ‘we currently advise against all but essential travel’.

I see G-LSAH is enroute MAN-GBA now as EXS031E, for scrapping?

757 G-LSAH just take off from MAN to Kemble last flight?

That's the plan.

This was always planned pre-Covid.
AD/AG/AH were planned to be scrapped and the remainder of the 757’s to be based at MAN.

According to Jethro, G-GDFB should also be off for scrap this month

Update from Jet2:

So the summer is now pushed back even further, this is not looking good for any UK based airline. The Quarantine is doing no one any favours.
Looks like that money from the sale of Fowler Welch may come in handy after all.

Wonder if this date links to what the Turkish were saying about a 15th July air bridge in place?

I flew on 14th so either re arrange or refund, might try for the following week and see what happens

15th July does seem to be an odd date to restart being a Wednesday

The majority of restriction being relaxed from the UK government tends to happen on a Monday and restrictions are genuinely reviewed on a 14 or 21 day time frame.

The only other explanation I seem to remember the Greeks saying (i could be mistaken) we may be allowed in from mid July, so are we now using middle of month as the next possible wave of resumption of flights, think we can still say 1st July will see the next increase of flights with Ryanair/Easyjet increasing flights from that date other airlines are all starting on that date into Manchester ie Brussels Airlines/Finnair daily Emirates and even domestic BA LHR 2 daily

Perhaps logic is to restart midweek when it will be a bit quieter than weekend, so staff get an easier first day back at school while they try to remember how to do their jobs and the rust comes off from 4 months of being at home ?

I see the UK Government is back-peddling on schools returning so maybe they will change their mind about the quarantine rules. Lets face it, they really give the impression they don't know what to do next. Dealing with peoples lives, health and lively hood needs to be done correctly and with confidence.

They have the court case potentially this week too by IAG/EZY, Ryanair and travel sector firms.

The travel sector firms have put off there court case, just the airlines case to go to the courts.

Air bridges to be in place by June 28th, so the travel firms have been told. Assume this means EU holiday hotspots only, which is probably why some airlines are still pursuing the legal action route.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/06/08/travel-bosses-told-air-bridges-allowed-june-29-quarantine-eased/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/1181...free-holidays/

Storage?
 

Anyone know if the 300’s and 75’s are to be put in storage for 3 months?

AFAIK the 330s were all Air Tankers leases, now cancelled. Temporarily?
The remaining 757s, after the retirement of LSAH and contemporaries to follow, will all be based At MAN.

Rerepatriation flights
 

Is there such a word as Rerepatriation.? 🤔
When S20 finally does kick off c July 15 (maybe) will we see a block of 'rerepatriation' flights a couple of weeks prior to that out to the Destination countries and areas of Jet2 so-called 'Reps' and resort staff?
Logistical nightmare start to a season that will start off just before the big UK holiday breaks 6 weeks.
Would be interesting to understand how Jet2 cope with getting their teams back in place.

Maybe use locals to do the rep work? or ex pats out there (sometimes the case anyway), guess they could fly them out on other airlines who are starting earlier as an option.