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dc9-32 16th May 2020 12:32

Fact is, CV19 is here to stay - vaccine or no vaccine. Jet2, like every other business, is caught up in it. It is irrelevant whether anyone saw it coming or not.

4567 16th May 2020 18:46

I was hoping Jet2 might become more flexible with flights and holidays as I know many who are uncomfortable at the thought of travelling abroad at the moment.

ATNotts 17th May 2020 07:46


Originally Posted by 4567 (Post 10784421)
I was hoping Jet2 might become more flexible with flights and holidays as I know many who are uncomfortable at the thought of travelling abroad at the moment.

If they are, I would suggest that it's down to lack of knowledge of the actual situation outside of the UK. Why does that surprise me?

Fact is new cases are down into three figures daily on Spain, Italy, Greece and Portugal. Slovenia has declared an end to it's epidemic, and most countries in central Europe are starting to open up to inbound tourism over the next couple of weeks. If I were to be fearful of anything it might be staying in the UK!

Biggest issue is probably the risk involved in being couped up in an aluminium tube for 3 or 4 hours.

Expressflight 17th May 2020 07:50


Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1 (Post 10783970)
I appreciate you’ve lost all respect for me because I expressed some facts - and I mean facts - about our Prime Minister that aren’t comfortable for his supporters which are evidently numerous in the Luton and Southend threads but this just isn’t true, or at least shouldn’t be true. I know the exact sequence of events and dates because I was caught up in it early on. It was clear by w/c 24/01 this was a major threat and other countries were taking action. The elephant in the room is what our Government and the media were completely pre-occupied with w/c 24/01, culminating in the evening of 31/01
and morning of 01/02. And where they were, the Prime Minister in particular, in the three critical weeks after that. The medical profession very much saw this coming and (hopefully) all will come out in a proper Public Inquiry. Hindsight sadly didn’t need to be required.

I don't know quite why you are so keen to shoot the messenger as I simply reported what I had heard in an interview on the Radio 4 Today programme of 16th May. James Galloway of a Kings College research team was speaking about a meeting with colleagues "in early February" (not well into February as I misremembered) and you can listen again to what he said 42 minutes into the programme. I cannot see how you interpreted my post as being in any way in support of "our Prime Minister" - my opinions on that score might actually surprise you.

paully 17th May 2020 10:10

Mods...Please might I respectfully ask that all these above `Experts` `Hindsight not required merchants` and those with a complete blueprint for how to deal with the virus` have their posts moved to the more appropriate Jet Blast. That would serve to allow the rest of us to report on Jet2.
Speaking of which, they are being very flexible at the moment so if you have any sort of booking and want to change, I`m told to try the Sales teams who are manning the phones (might be a delay connecting though) and they will try to help assist and change where they can.

The AvgasDinosaur 18th May 2020 08:40

Just to get back onto Jet2 track.
My friend was due to visit from Malaga to Manchester. His northbound flight was in the cancelled time period his southbound return was not. Yesterday he got his full refund. Today he booked his June 2021 flights. Well done Jet2.
NO VOUCHERS NO HASSLE
EZY RYR TUI Please note customer care= customer loyalty !!!!
David

JM926 18th May 2020 09:06

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....604dabef58.png
Great effort by all involved!

BluffOldSeaDog 18th May 2020 09:47

For clarity, rather than a screen shot, this is the complete list

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/ne...urvey-results/

The AvgasDinosaur 18th May 2020 15:42

Best airline by 10 places 👍👍
Great effort boys and girls
even greater result.
CONGRATULATIONS
David

flybar 22nd May 2020 13:21

Just got an email - flights now cancelled until 1st July 2020

FFHKG 25th May 2020 13:24

Spain announced a short while ago that it will open its borders to tourists with effect from 1st July...... good news for Jet2 and other tour operators.

ericlday 25th May 2020 13:43


Originally Posted by FFHKG (Post 10792899)
Spain announced a short while ago that it will open its borders to tourists with effect from 1st July...... good news for Jet2 and other tour operators.

Have you a link please FFHKG ?

Rt Hon Jim Hacker MP 25th May 2020 15:11

Just google Spanish holidays. Plenty of stories reporting that they will be open with no quarantine from 1st July. Hopefully a move in the right direction.

SWBKCB 25th May 2020 15:20


Foreign visitors to Spain will no longer have to undergo a two-week quarantine from 1 July, the government has announced.

It said the measure had been finalised in a cabinet meeting on Monday.
BBC - Spain to stop quarantining arrivals from 1 July

ericlday 25th May 2020 15:44

Thanks everyone......lets hope the ' foreign tourists' include us Brits

inOban 25th May 2020 15:48

Don't rush

Update from Spanish PM.......
The PM Pedro Sánchez has mentioned the end of June or beginning of July to regain freedom of movement throughout the country and urged the regional presidents to promote national tourism as the one that “pushes and pulls the car” this summer season. The Canary Islands President described this as good news for the Canary Islands but stressed the need for passengers to arrive with negative PCR tests for the COVID-19 virus and always strictly complying with international protocols on health security for tourism, processes that must be approved and applied before the restart of this activity. Torres also added it will be necessary to add a system that allows controlling the traceability of visitors and said, “only then will it be time to open hotels..

It will be interesting to see what happens when domestic travel is fully unlocked and residents can travel from areas which have had major outbreaks to those which haven't

FFHKG 25th May 2020 16:46

El Pais @ 15.40 EST today

ericlday 25th May 2020 19:06

FFHKG Thanks appreciate it

Gurnard 30th May 2020 12:39

Anyone know why LS6088 is currently flying from STN to ATH?

Flying Hi 30th May 2020 12:47


Originally Posted by Gurnard (Post 10797561)
Anyone know why LS6088 is currently flying from STN to ATH?

Good question especially as Greece not 'open' yet and even when it is we are, quite rightly, not wanted.

Rutan16 30th May 2020 12:57


Originally Posted by Flying Hi (Post 10797568)
Good question especially as Greece not 'open' yet and even when it is we are, quite rightly, not wanted.

This the British aren’t wanted is platitudinous drivel without evidence.

Almost all the European tourist centres can‘t wait for the Brits to return and in numbers !

The current resistance is rather more routed in decisions made in and around Whitehall !

inOban 30th May 2020 13:25


Originally Posted by Rutan16 (Post 10797579)
This the British aren’t wanted is platitudinous drivel without evidence.

Almost all the European tourist centres can‘t wait for the Brits to return and in numbers !

The current resistance is rather more routed in decisions made in and around Whitehall !

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52854979

Decision not made in Whitehall.

Flying Hi 30th May 2020 13:52


Originally Posted by inOban (Post 10797599)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52854979

Decision not made in Whitehall.

it was in a way as we haven't got Covid19 under control.

ATNotts 30th May 2020 15:22


Originally Posted by inOban (Post 10797599)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52854979

Decision not made in Whitehall.

There's am element of truth in that the UK unilaterally imposing quarantine on arrival into UK has goaded some countries that (perhaps foolishly) not imposed quarantine on arrivals from the UK to do so; that said, our infection rates are still too high, hopefully in the next couple of weeks there'll be some real signs of improvement and the UK quarantine and any tit-for-tat measures rendered unnecessary.

Flying Hi 30th May 2020 15:52

Snakes bite
 
When I was growing up in the northern countryside my Dad gave me good advice - "if you are out waking and stand on an adders head, be sure to keep your foot on its neck until its dead. If you take your foot off too soon, it'll bite you probably harder than it might have done first time."
Remember that when our super-lax, very British way of not dealing with Covid19 properly first time round, alliows it to come back with a Vengeance (about 21 days after the those essential things called Pubs etc reopen?).

ATNotts 30th May 2020 16:10


Originally Posted by Flying Hi (Post 10797691)
When I was growing up in the northern countryside my Dad gave me good advice - "if you are out waking and stand on an adders head, be sure to keep your foot on its neck until its dead. If you take your foot off too soon, it'll bite you probably harder than it might have done first time."
Remember that when our super-lax, very British way of not dealing with Covid19 properly first time round, alliows it to come back with a Vengeance (about 21 days after the those essential things called Pubs etc reopen?).

Far too much thread drift; but the only way pubs are going to open safely is for a) no standing allowed, b) 2 people max per table unless from the same household, c) table service only - no buying from the bar. Pretty much like the way it's done across most of Europe, and a deal more civilised than standing shoulder to shoulder wafting brown drinking vouchers in the hope of getting served! If that isn't done then I agree, 21 days and we'll be back to square one.

Best head back to Jet2 now!

AirportPlanner1 30th May 2020 17:35


Originally Posted by Rutan16 (Post 10797579)
This the British aren’t wanted is platitudinous drivel without evidence.

Almost all the European tourist centres can‘t wait for the Brits to return and in numbers !

The current resistance is rather more routed in decisions made in and around Whitehall !

It’s Greece that have their head screwed on. If the tables were turned and it was us with virtually no deaths would you want plane loads of tourists from a country with six times the number of daily deaths as the second highest European country turning up? I suspect, and hope, the answer is no.

Stanstedeye 30th May 2020 18:52

JZBL came from Leeds. Due back a STN 20.35.

Flying Hi 30th May 2020 19:40


Originally Posted by Stanstedeye (Post 10797788)
JZBL came from Leeds. Due back a STN 20.35.

Ah, but what was the trip purpose OR why Athens?
Just curious.

sdbelgium 30th May 2020 20:02


Originally Posted by Flying Hi (Post 10797816)
Ah, but what was the trip purpose OR why Athens?
Just curious.

It was a charter flight, another one will be operated from STN to ATH on June 6th. Maleth seems to be doing some of these as well lately.

There were a couple Jet2 charter flights recently to/from OTP to pick up fruit pickers to work in the U.K., but I’ve no idea what the reason behind these Athens charters is.

LS737 31st May 2020 15:47

Positioning callsign for the return so must've been carrying passengers out. Quick skim through FR24 departures, potentially passengers transferring to CA864?

Vokes55 31st May 2020 16:03

Probably a repatriation flight taking Greeks back to Athens in the absence of schedule services.

Why would Jet2 be taking people to connect to an Air China flight from Athens when 6x Air China aircraft leave LHR every day?

VickersVicount 31st May 2020 16:06


Originally Posted by Vokes55 (Post 10798452)
Probably a repatriation flight taking Greeks back to Athens in the absence of schedule services.

Why would Jet2 be taking people to connect to an Air China flight from Athens when 6x Air China aircraft leave LHR every day?

Because that flight had capacity and LHR didn't ?

Vokes55 31st May 2020 16:14


Originally Posted by VickersVicount (Post 10798455)
Because that flight had capacity and LHR didn't ?

They’ve been flying out empty after delivering PPE and Cargo into LHR. Plenty of capacity if it were needed.

And why is taking passengers to Athens to connect independently onto an Air China flight more likely than simply taking some of the many Greeks that reside in London, particularly North London, back to Athens as their country opens up but no direct scheduled flights from London exist?

airhumberside 31st May 2020 18:01

There are severe restrictions on passenger flights to China, along the lines of once per week from an individual country per carrier. I maybe wrong on the specifics, but I'm pretty certain Air China can only do 1 passenger flight per week from LHR to PEK

Vokes55 31st May 2020 20:34

Then they’d have been able to put a flight from LHR to PEK on, as they currently do zero per week (for passengers).

I’m not sure what the point of the discussion is. Jet2 aren’t flying people to Athens to connect to an Air China flight. The suggestion was daft and doesn’t warrant a thread drift.

Mr @ Spotty M 1st Jun 2020 09:13

The Sale of Fowler Welch
 
I see that Jet2s owner has sold its distribution and logistics business for almost £100 million, to concentrate on its airline and tour operating interests.
I used to work for an Airline & Engineering company that also over the years sold off its assets, until it owned next to nothing and as such is no longer here.
Its not always a good idea to put all your eggs in one basket, they have sold off the only part of the business that is likely to make a profit in this financial year. :uhoh:

Stick Flying 1st Jun 2020 12:36


Originally Posted by Mr @ Spotty M (Post 10798991)
Its not always a good idea to put all your eggs in one basket, they have sold off the only part of the business that is likely to make a profit in this financial year. :uhoh:

You really think that the profits from FWC are in any way significant enough to run an airline during a pandemic? The Airline are highly profitable when we aren't experiencing political apocalypse. I'd suggest they are turning that cash influx into a quite promising expansion/re-focusing plan for the impending recovery (but having watched their evolution I'd also add measured) . I think your estimate of the business sustainability of the airline is based on very little inside knowledge.

Johnny F@rt Pants 1st Jun 2020 12:38


Originally Posted by Mr @ Spotty M (Post 10798991)
I see that Jet2s owner has sold its distribution and logistics business for almost £100 million, to concentrate on its airline and tour operating interests........they have sold off the only part of the business that is likely to make a profit in this financial year. :uhoh:

FW put £3.9M into the profit for 2019, so whilst some profit is better than none, it’s not a big player in the grand scheme of things and shows where the senior management know where they are going to make the serious money........I hope.

SWBKCB 1st Jun 2020 12:49


You really think that the profits from FWC are in any way significant enough to run an airline during a pandemic?
It wasn't suggested that they were, but heaven forbid that anybody offers an alternative view...


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