BHX Summer 2020
 

The Summer Birmingham Timetable shows 14 aircraft peak season now, 8 x B737's, 6 x A321's, however one of the A321's doesn't start until August, May to July is showing a B752 instead, rumoured to be a Titan aircraft.

It's been mentioned that 3 A321's will be the Jet2 airframes, 1 will be SmartLynx, as for the other 2 A321's, your guess is as good as mine, will they be Jet2? SmartLynx? Titan? or HiFly? or another airline?

Looks like in May there will be for BHX the below leased aircraft.

2X Smartlynx A321’s
1 x Titan A321 (218seats)
1 x Titan B757 - GPOWH

Titan looks to have 5 x A321’s operating for Jet2 this year. 4 in STN plus this one in BHX. Not sure how long it stays for but looking at the end of May and July it is still operating.

Might see SmartLynx YL-LCV again. Did us proud in 2019 - our flights anyway.😀

Thank you. I’ve got a B737 TR relative who is keen to join Jet2 following a recommendation by a friend who is already onboard and loving it. We’d heard that recruitment for Boeing had been put on hold for the time being, so maybe this might be their opportunity to apply.

Unlikely. Boeing recruitment is on hold for the time being with the adverts removed from the Jet2Careers website. Focus is understandably on the Airbus introduction. With a lower attrition rate than forecast on the Boeing, the "new" 737-800 aircraft are already accounted for with crewing numbers. The situation can and does change, so your relative should keep an eye out on the website.

When jet2 use the Titan and Smartlynx aircraft, are the cabin crew from jet2 who operate on the aircraft ??? or does the cabin crew come from titan and smartlynx, i know that the
flight deck belong to titan and smartlynx but wasn't sure of the cabin crew situation.

fjencl
 

On the long term (summer season) leases the CC are Jet2’s own cabin crew trained to fly on those leased aeroplanes, if the lease is short term then it is too big an undertaking to train crews, however Jet2 place some of their own cabin crew onboard as reps to assist with the service and to maintain the brand.

As somebody who no longer flies very often, but was in the travel industry for all of my working life, can I Just say that Jet2 appear to have got not only their marketing but also the staffing and ambassadorial roles perfected.

Jet2.com in winter 2020/21 season is adjusting service to Newark, which sees the airline expands service from Manchester and Newcastle. Planned seasonal limited-time service as of 14JAN20 as follows.

Leeds/Bradford – Newark Decrease from 4 flights in 4Q19 to 3 flights in 4Q20, 757-200 operating
Manchester – Newark Increase from 6 flights in 4Q19 to 14 flights in 4Q20. Operations from Manchester with A330-200 as follows
27NOV20 – 04DEC20 Day x246
07DEC20 – 18DEC20 Day x246
22DEC20 – 28DEC20 Day 12

Newcastle – Newark Increase from 4 flights in 4Q19 to 5 flights in 4Q20, A330-200 operating

The airline will continue to operate 1 round-trip flight each for Glasgow – Newark and East Midlands – Newark with A330-200, in 4Q20.

Previously reported:
Birmingham – Newark Service resumption since 4Q17, 3 round-trip flights with A330-200 in 4Q20

I wouldn't be surprised if the EWR flights were eventually introduced as a year-round offering, maybe once the new terminal at LBA is complete and can handle the A332 and PAX - just my opinion.

Titan to replace both B757-200's with A321LR's by Autumn 2020.

https://www.flightglobal.com/fleets/...136208.article

I wonder if we will see these in operation for Jet2?

As someone who works for Jet2, we hear things like this a lot and I can tell you it’s always absolutely lovely to hear that our efforts at work are appreciated by the passengers who travel with us. They put a lot of resources into making sure they have the right staff and encouraging staff to go out of their way to provide excellent customer service.

Not intending this to be a Jet2 Love In but just try changing your holiday Destination on a pre-booked Holiday. A nightmare scenario for some companies, no can do for some, but Jet2 did this for us with great aplomb. Superb training has to be the key AND a real, tangible wish to help the Customer out of his self created muddle.

Off topic I know this isn't the SLF forum but wish I could share the same sentiment. First booking as SLF with Jet2 given the now huge local presence in BHX this year, having previously been loyal to the winking blue tail for many years. Only for Jet2 to deal us an almost 6 hour flight schedule change putting our inbound arrival time to 2am (on the first day of term following half term). Obviously not wanting to keep the mini Xanda's out of school the following day I call to explore my options of which I am told there are non. All within the T&C's (I know I agreed to them before anyone mentions it) and classed as a minor change and all I'm offered is cancellation at the loss of deposit or change to a different day at £700 more thanks to the ludicrous way 'out of term time' package deals are priced within the UK.

Just makes me wonder why they chose to publish a flight schedule and take bookings seemingly knowing that the slots weren't confirmed. Either way it seems the only winner in my situation is the airline as they either bag £300 for the cancellation or an extra £700 in date changes as these minor changes make significant impacts on SLF booking decisions.

the problem is scheduled are released 18months in advance but yet slot handback for Summer 20 schedule doesn’t happen until Jan20. Also the aircraft might have been scheduled to only fly two sectors that day initially but because of the TCX issue capacity is being added resulting in all aircraft/most aircraft doing 4 sectors every day therefore resulting in minor schedule changes.

Irish,

I think what Xanda is saying is that, to us mere passengers, a 6 hour schedule change isn’t a minor change - even when notified weeks or months in advance.

Could i ask how much notice you were given?
Are you talking about the next half term|?
I cannot see a slot not being available being the reason.

tiger

Would that now be the Sunday 16:15 departure to Dalaman, arriving back Monday morning at 02:05? - Because Jet 2 are now planning on using more A321s, they have changed a few former B738 flights to the A321, hence having had to change flight times to accomodate the larger A321 in the schedules.

Regarding the above, as ScouseG mentioned my main gripe was that the time change does not (as SLF) equate to a minor change, this especially when you factor in the other things I mentioned like pushing the arrival post midnight. It was also customer services who made it quite clear I had no options and nothing could be done apart from pay to change or stick with it and take the little ones out of school for the day. This is for the end of May half term so we have been given plenty of notice. We have now changed to different days at a cost albeit still cheaper than the winking smiley group overall so Jet2 still get my custom.

Apologies I made an assumption it was a slot thing, it looks likely that this was down to the Airbus' coming in to the fleet and moving things around to accommodate but in all honesty I have no idea.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....de92a5b80.jpeg
G-DRTL on the apron in MAN today before having a lick of paint.

Anyone know yet where the new ex TCX group A321's are likely to be based?

3 x BHX
4 x MAN

New to Jet2, 2nd B737-800 G-DRTR(Ex Air China), entered revenue service yesterday afternoon on LS755 from Manchester to Tenerife.

How big will the fleet be by Summer?
I cannot keep up with comings and goings

thanks in advance

7 x A321s acquired from Thomas Cook/Condor fleet
9 x A321s leased from various airlines for summer 2020
2 x A330s leased from Air Tanker for summer 2020
9 x B733s but two are for disposal early summer 2020
74 x B738s
6 x B738s may still be due to join the fleet for Summer 2020
1 x B738 lease from Air Europa for summer 2020
1 x B757 leased from Titan for summer 2020
11 x B757 but two are for disposal early summer 2020

So maybe something in the region of 116 aircraft......

what a mishmash... must be a logistical nightmare

Other airlines seem to manage with mixed fleets.

Jet2 also have a lot of their own standby aircraft planned into the programme to cover the inevitable.

Isn’t it x3 A332s ?

cs

It is not the most accurate list:

As already pointed out; it's 3x a330 and 8x A321 from Various airlines.

It is 3 X A330-200, all from Air Tanker.

And 9 X A321 leased from other airlines - 4 A321 from Titan(Stansted), 2 A321 from Hi Fly(Man) and 3 A321 from Smartlynx(Birmingham). (That's so far!)

There is also currently 75 Jet2 B738 (not 74) - 5 have still to enter service.

The leased B757 from Titan is from May until end of July(Birmingham), until the 3rd A321 from Smartlynx arrives.

I'm under the understanding it is just 1 Hi Fly.

I would of thought the Titan 757 is for Jet2 A321over the Smart Lynx. Smart Lynx no longer have as much work, due to obvious reasons, therefore are good to go from when Jet2 require them. Therefore 3 Smart Lynx from April/May time.

It’s is now only 1 x A321 from Hifly for MAN.
discussions are taking place regarding a 2nd aircraft. Type not yet known but likely A330.

smartlynx will be 3 x A321’s based in BHX as well as the B757 from Titan which will stay until the end of July.

The HIFly A321 will be:

9H-LIS - MAN based starts 1st April

Airtanker A330’s will be:

GVYGL - currently based in MAN year round
GVYGM - due to re-start 3rd April and stay until at least end of Dec to help cover the EWR flying.
GVYGK - due to start 20th May


Air Europa
EC-IDT (LBA based) starts 2nd April

Titan
4 x A321’s to be STN based.
GPOWN - starts 2nd April
GPOWU - starts 2nd April
GPOWV - starts 2nd April
GPOWW - starts the 26th March (Titan still to acquire this aircraft)

Smartlynx
3 x A321’s - BHX Based
YL-LCQ - starts 30th March
YL-LCV - starts 30th March
YL-LDA - starts 2nd April

Titan B757 - BHX based
GPOWH - starts 17th May until 31st July.

This is according to current slots filled.

thanks chaps. Approx 115/120 is a ball park then?

When's the first ex Thomas Cook/Condor A321 due for Jet2?

Three were due in January (Ex.TCDD,DE DG) however that hasn't happened.
TCDH is due in May and DP/CD/CE don't have exact dates from what I can find other than they are due before S20.

Last I heard from the guys involved was March for first flights with April for entry into Jet2 service.

Obviously there’s a requirement to get the crews current again prior to this, which can be a little complicated.

112 aircraft total for Summer (inc ACMIs).

320/321 Sims?
 

I know its in anorak question but if Jet2 only have Sims for their 737 fleet, whose Sims will they use for their growing Airbus fleet?
i wondered ( or is that 'wandered?') if they bought any TCX Sims etc.

There will be an A320 sim installed at the current sim centre in the near future, don’t know where it’s coming from though.

They are using the old TCX sim.