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LGS6753 16th Mar 2020 14:34

Once the peak (of the virus) has passed (June/July?), Spain will want to encourage tourism, as will the remaining airlines. They will incentivise travel - remember Ryanair's 1p fares after 9/11? Such activity would not be profitable, but it would resume cashflow pretty quickly, and save jobs and businesses.

willy wombat 16th Mar 2020 15:28

I don’t think some of these posters understand ‘herd immunity’. If achieved it would protect the vulnerable, not kill them off.

mattd938 16th Mar 2020 15:30

Were due to fly to Barca on Jet2 on the 24th of June, if they are flying the route were getting on it lol

Gurnard 16th Mar 2020 15:30

Rather ironic to see the latest acquisition G-DRTL positioning BOH-MAN this afternoon, freshly painted, but for what? Like many other airlines, Jet2 made careful preparations for the summer season, investing in additions to the fleet, but none of us knew how the coronavirus would hit. Profoundly sorry for this airline (and others) and the loyal staff.

nowhereasfiled 16th Mar 2020 16:08


Originally Posted by Gurnard (Post 10716201)
Profoundly sorry for this airline (and others) and the loyal staff.

Not ideal, definitely. But LS will be fine and will come out stronger on the other side.

Bam Thwok 16th Mar 2020 19:56


Originally Posted by Gurnard (Post 10716201)
Rather ironic to see the latest acquisition G-DRTL positioning BOH-MAN this afternoon, freshly painted, but for what? Like many other airlines, Jet2 made careful preparations for the summer season, investing in additions to the fleet, but none of us knew how the coronavirus would hit. Profoundly sorry for this airline (and others) and the loyal staff.


Sorry for what ??

Yes, of course, VERY tough months ahead.....but be assured......this “airline” and its “loyal staff” will be poised to react very quickly when Europe opens up again.

Bloody Doom Merchant !

ROC10 16th Mar 2020 20:19


Originally Posted by Bam Thwok (Post 10716465)
Sorry for what ??

Yes, of course, VERY tough months ahead.....but be assured......this “airline” and its “loyal staff” will be poised to react very quickly when Europe opens up again.

Bloody Doom Merchant !

Perhaps sorry for the staff who will have to take unpaid leave for significant time...?

Of course, positivity is needed but this is a real situation and people (not just airline ops) will be affected.

USERNAME_ 16th Mar 2020 21:02


Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10716490)
Perhaps sorry for the staff who will have to take unpaid leave for significant time...?

Of course, positivity is needed but this is a real situation and people (not just airline ops) will be affected.

Jet2 are the only airline not to mention staff cuts yet which is odd.

Gurnard 16th Mar 2020 21:15


Originally Posted by Bam Thwok (Post 10716465)
Sorry for what ??

Yes, of course, VERY tough months ahead.....but be assured......this “airline” and its “loyal staff” will be poised to react very quickly when Europe opens up again.

..... Doom Merchant !

Calm down friend. Think of those affected and try and show a little sympathy. Yes, we hope for better things but we are fools if we don't look at the reality of the situation now.

LBAflyer22 16th Mar 2020 22:13


Originally Posted by USERNAME_ (Post 10716549)
Jet2 are the only airline not to mention staff cuts yet which is odd.

Think they are very busy at the moment been what they are known for when it goes wrong - moving the bloody earth to get the loyal customers back to the UK . And who's to say they will? it is inventible but until its confirmed lets leave them to what they seem to be getting A-LOT of positive comments about. Which will only make people book with them for the future.

ford cortina 17th Mar 2020 04:53

Sadly I don't think so, i'm on layoff like many of us.
Jet2 have stretched themselves this year, introducing the Airbus this year has been a massive gamble, it may not have been the correct decision, but of course hindsight is always right.
But you say they will be propped up by the Dart group, well lets hope so, but what if this goes on for several months, Europe is in lockdown, there are going to be no flight for several months. Jet 2 cannot afford to pay staff forever. They have a lot of staff, just look at any check in, at least 10 or so compared to minimal at Ryanair/ Easyjet/ Tui. yes Jet2 give great customer service, but they are going to as ruthless to their staff as the other airlines or they wont make it.
This virus wont go for a while, it just starting,
I friends there and hope they make it, but its going to be a long hard ride

Flying Hi 17th Mar 2020 09:18

Meanwhile - A321 training goes on
 
Been interesting watching, via FR24, the recent flights of the newly acquired ex-Condor/TC liveried A321 G-HLYF.
Doing the rounds of PIK, NCL, BFS and MAN on what must be type training. Life goes on.
Q - are these flights for uprating 737 crew to A321 or to check ride any newly hired A321 flight crew, for example ex TCX?

Flying Wild 17th Mar 2020 09:33


Originally Posted by Flying Hi (Post 10717097)
Been interesting watching, via FR24, the recent flights of the newly acquired ex-Condor/TC liveried A321 G-HLYF.
Doing the rounds of PIK, NCL, BFS and MAN on what must be type training. Life goes on.
Q - are these flights for uprating 737 crew to A321 or to check ride any newly hired A321 flight crew, for example ex TCX?

A- The latter.

nowhereasfiled 17th Mar 2020 14:10

Looks like Jet2 are flying home stranded pax who are customers of other airlines.
Expensive, but in the long run this is fantastic as it’s only going to build that already loyal customer base.

ROC10 17th Mar 2020 14:14


Originally Posted by nowhereasfiled (Post 10717412)
Looks like Jet2 are flying home stranded pax who are customers of other airlines.
Expensive, but in the long run this is fantastic as it’s only going to build that already loyal customer base.

Any examples/source for this?

nowhereasfiled 17th Mar 2020 14:23

See the update from Steve Heapy.

“putting on extra aircraft to fly customers home, some of who may not have been offered flights home by their own airline”.

JonnyH 17th Mar 2020 15:06


Originally Posted by nowhereasfiled (Post 10717429)
See the update from Steve Heapy.

“putting on extra aircraft to fly customers home, some of who may not have been offered flights home by their own airline”.

Whilst Jet2 have given remarkably good service, certainly in comparison with Ryanair, I doubt that this has been at no cost to the consumer/government.

flyerguy 17th Mar 2020 19:59


Originally Posted by JonnyH (Post 10717478)
Whilst Jet2 have given remarkably good service, certainly in comparison with Ryanair, I doubt that this has been at no cost to the consumer/government.

The government said they wouldn’t be funding any kind of repatriation

Flying Wild 17th Mar 2020 20:17


Originally Posted by JonnyH (Post 10717478)
Whilst Jet2 have given remarkably good service, certainly in comparison with Ryanair, I doubt that this has been at no cost to the consumer/government.

Given that a large proportion of Jet2 customers are on package holidays, it is the responsibility of Jet2 to get people back to the UK.

nowhereasfiled 17th Mar 2020 20:55


Originally Posted by Flying Wild (Post 10717818)
Given that a large proportion of Jet2 customers are on package holidays, it is the responsibility of Jet2 to get people back to the UK.


Indeed, but the point I was making was that they are offering flights home to others who have been left stranded by their own airlines.

AirportPlanner1 17th Mar 2020 20:55


Originally Posted by Flying Wild (Post 10717818)
Given that a large proportion of Jet2 customers are on package holidays, it is the responsibility of Jet2 to get people back to the UK.

It is but I think the point is that they have also been repatriating non-Jet2 passengers

Flying Wild 17th Mar 2020 21:02


Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1 (Post 10717862)
It is but I think the point is that they have also been repatriating non-Jet2 passengers

Yes, surely it good business to make sure every seat is sold? I’d be surprised if those non-Jet2 passengers had a free ride.

Buster the Bear 18th Mar 2020 02:14

The world will be watching China. Had the virus almost eliminated, opened borders and foreign travel brought it back. Which county will be next to take that gamble? I suspect the delays in doing so, will be painful for airlines and support industries? You then have a monumental task of convincing the public that it is safe to take a flight or holiday. Sensationalist journalism only adds flames to the fire. One thing for is certain, a quick fix is unlikely to assist the plight of our industry and many, many others.

I do see scope for air freight, as Cathay used their fleet for.

USERNAME_ 18th Mar 2020 17:14

Looks like from Saturday 21st, Jet2 will cease all operations until May 1st.

Flying Hi 19th Mar 2020 09:29


Originally Posted by USERNAME_ (Post 10719074)
Looks like from Saturday 21st, Jet2 will cease all operations until May 1st.

Antalya flights/holidays too? Turkey still accepting flights AFAIK or will Jet2 suspend those too to make it a full house?

inOban 19th Mar 2020 09:47

But the UK government has told no-one to go abroad.

davidjohnson6 19th Mar 2020 09:48

Within 7 days, I imagine the Turkish Govt will close its borders to everyone unless they have a Turkish passport or residency paperwork

Johnny F@rt Pants 19th Mar 2020 12:04


Originally Posted by Flying Hi (Post 10719923)
Antalya flights/holidays too? Turkey still accepting flights AFAIK or will Jet2 suspend those too to make it a full house?

Yes, ALL flights/holidays are cancelled until the end of April.

bcn_boy 19th Mar 2020 16:39

I would not visit Turkey any time soon. Their President Erdogan has claimed that Turkic people’s cannot catch the virus. It was not until a week ago he also claimed that Turkey would not get the virus as it had installed temperature sensors for arriving passengers at Istanbul airport and could catch those with the virus, despite the fact that all nations surrounding Turkey had reported the virus. Turkey will be the next epicentre for the virus outbreak as they are way behind other nations and have tried to sweep it under the carpet.

nowhereasfiled 19th Mar 2020 21:31

£1.5 billion on the Dart Group balance sheet.
Should tide the airline/holiday branches for a few months.

https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/news/j...st-1-may-21896

True Blue 19th Mar 2020 22:32

"I would not visit Turkey any time soon. Their President Erdogan has claimed that Turkic people’s cannot catch the virus. It was not until a week ago he also claimed that Turkey would not get the virus as it had installed temperature sensors for arriving passengers at Istanbul airport and could catch those with the virus, despite the fact that all nations surrounding Turkey had reported the virus. Turkey will be the next epicentre for the virus outbreak as they are way behind other nations and have tried to sweep it under the carpet"

Have you seen the steps they are taking, right down to spraying the streets, closing bars etc? Bet more being done there than here.

Buster the Bear 20th Mar 2020 22:14

Turkey has 670 cases, up 311 in a day, 9 deaths, of which 5 were within the last 24 hours.

LS737 21st Mar 2020 11:35

G-LSAD and G-CELY to position to Kemble on Monday for retirement.

ROC10 21st Mar 2020 13:03


Originally Posted by LS737 (Post 10722807)
G-LSAD and G-CELY to position to Kemble on Monday for retirement.

I see that G-LSAN is also routing MAN-NWI, has been circling and gradually descending over NWI for a while but seems to be heading in to land now. I'm guessing probably storage or maintenance as it's one of the "younger" 757s (25yrs).

SWBKCB 21st Mar 2020 13:19


Originally Posted by ROC10 (Post 10722884)
I see that G-LSAN is also routing MAN-NWI, has been circling and gradually descending over NWI for a while but seems to be heading in to land now. I'm guessing probably storage or maintenance as it's one of the "younger" 757s (25yrs).

Reported at post 2224 as being due NWI for a re-paint

Yeehaw22 21st Mar 2020 13:32


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 10722905)
Reported at post 2224 as being due NWI for a re-paint

Very much doubt even the most cash rich of airlines would be splashing the cash on a paintjob at this particular point in time.

Rutan16 21st Mar 2020 16:51


Originally Posted by Yeehaw22 (Post 10722915)
Very much doubt even the most cash rich of airlines would be splashing the cash on a paintjob at this particular point in time.

If it’s it tendered part paid and booked the cancellation fees would outweigh any benefit.Simply get it done and give a few people a few more days of fully paid work don’t you think ?

SWBKCB 21st Mar 2020 16:58


Very much doubt even the most cash rich of airlines would be splashing the cash on a paintjob at this particular point in time.
And on that basis, it's curious that probably the busiest a/c in the fleet just now is the new A.321 G-HLYF. As has been pointed out, things aren't always straight-forward.

Yeehaw22 21st Mar 2020 17:08


Originally Posted by Rutan16 (Post 10723112)
If it’s it tendered part paid and booked the cancellation fees would outweigh any benefit.Simply get it done and give a few people a few more days of fully paid work don’t you think ?

if being done internally yes. But all companies at present are reducing expenditures to external companies. As in to zero. Unless absolutely necessary.

And as to contractual payments all bets are off at present. What are the paint company going to do? Sue the airline for none payment? The only way I can see a paint input going ahead is if its already been paid for in advance which is doubtful.

nowhereasfiled 21st Mar 2020 20:35

G-CELY going down to Cotswold/Kemble on Monday to be turned into tin cans.


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