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Skipness One Echo 1st Nov 2017 08:16

LBA used to handle TriStars, so an A330 should be possible. Desirable given the size of the terminal is another question.

canberra97 1st Nov 2017 08:21

Tristars and LBA like the British Airtours L1011 that spectacularly overran the runway.

But could a fully laden 330 use the runway at LBA economically?

FQTLSteve 1st Nov 2017 08:41

canberra97 Might be a problem at LBA but not remotely one at BHX, so they could base one there.

canberra97 1st Nov 2017 08:45

Sure they could base one at BHX as it has a far longer runway compared to LBA.

LBIA 1st Nov 2017 09:12

Airbus A330's have operated into LBA in the past.
I'm sure Jet2 could easily fill them on the LBA routes to PMI, ALC, AGP, FAO & TFS during the summer.
Problem now is the wouldn't be enough room for one to be parked overnight. Basing an A330 elsewhere operating W-legs into LBA might work though..

Previous A330's operators into LBA.
Aer Lingus = DUB
Monarch = PAD (Troop flights)
Balkan Holidays = BOJ
Air Luxor = FAO
Thomas Cook = BGI (P&O Cruises)

paully 1st Nov 2017 12:25

Cant see Jet2 putting an A330 into Leeds, W leg or otherwise. Its Terminal building is somewhat rabbit hutch to say the least. I travel through it twice a year but its not pleasant at busy times. Now they are bussing pax, from every stand to arrivals, to avoid overloading both passport control and the baggage reclaim areas.

Not what you want when trying to turn a widebody round asap..Think they`ll have to settle for the coal burners:ooh:

dbromle 1st Nov 2017 13:59


Originally Posted by garry8g (Post 9942483)
GJZBB entered service yesterday afternoon on LS265 from Leeds to Malaga.

And it smelt lovely inside. Just like a new car.

DavidShepherd 1st Nov 2017 14:08


Originally Posted by paully (Post 9943315)
Cant see Jet2 putting an A330 into Leeds, W leg or otherwise. Its Terminal building is somewhat rabbit hutch to say the least. I travel through it twice a year but its not pleasant at busy times. Now they are bussing pax, from every stand to arrivals, to avoid overloading both passport control and the baggage reclaim areas.

Not what you want when trying to turn a widebody round asap..Think they`ll have to settle for the coal burners:ooh:

Tell me about it. 35mins waiting for a bus before getting off the plane the other day. Then a full hour getting through passports and baggage.

Bloody awful airport. Never again.

rpmac 1st Nov 2017 14:34

Good to see the airport so busy, bodes well for the future and further expansion of the terminal which I believe is being considered by the new owners. Look forward to my next flight from the airport.

chinapattern 1st Nov 2017 15:10

You'd think BHX would be a dead cert for an A330 given the Monarch shaped void!

paully 1st Nov 2017 15:23


Originally Posted by DavidShepherd (Post 9943403)
Tell me about it. 35mins waiting for a bus before getting off the plane the other day. Then a full hour getting through passports and baggage.

Bloody awful airport. Never again.


Sadly have heard many similar stories to yours in the recent past..Waiting so long just to get off the plane is shameful..Hope you complained.

Plane.Silly 1st Nov 2017 15:30


You'd think BHX would be a dead cert for an A330 given the Monarch shaped void!
It should be, but i think Jet2 have that covered, going from 4 to 8 738's. 2019 maybe?

EK77WNCL 1st Nov 2017 15:35

Flying through LBA on the 23rd to Riga... Hoping it's well into the winter lull by then

It was a shed the first time I flew through, a glorified shed with a shiny duty free shop the second and I'm hoping it's not going to be an overcrowded shed this time.

Back to Jet2, are TCX really getting rid of an A330 based on their expansion? I'd have thought they'd be taking all the A330's they can get right now! In the event that they are, though, I really don't think 2 Air Tanker A330's out of MAN and an ex Air Berlin A330 out of BHX and STN each would be at all out of the question.

If they ever expand the fleet further or buy their own (might get a good deal on a handful of second hand ones, or even end of the line ceo's fresh from Toulouse) then I think 2/3 each at MAN/BHX/STN and 1 at NCL/LBA and W legs into the other bases could be a very realistic proposition

Jet2 must be clapping their hands at BHX/STN, possibly one of the strongest business moves I've ever seen in UK aviation. The strength of their 3 biggest bases (MAN/BHX/STN) could make them realise their long haul ambitions

Skipness One Echo 1st Nov 2017 15:38


But could a fully laden 330 use the runway at LBA economically?
It would never be fully laden on a LS routing to the Costas, they don't carry commercial freight (?) or anywhere near a full fuel load.

EK77WNCL 1st Nov 2017 15:43

If they can get the first off the line 737 800's out of LBA on a 5 hour sector on a summers day... You bet they can get a new A330 200 out. I don't even think a -300 would break a sweat.

Whether there would be issues in getting an A332 to Orlando or Cancun... I don't know to be honest. MON managed for years with older gen A332's out of NCL which is only a couple of hundred feet longer, yet significantly flatter

Plane.Silly 1st Nov 2017 16:00

Bearing in mind Jet2 do all their own handling too, it's not unfeasable to think they could do it

Getaway Turtle 1st Nov 2017 16:49

G-JZBC & G-JZBD will both be Jet2 Holidays livery for anyone that's interested.

Getaway Turtle 1st Nov 2017 16:54


Originally Posted by garry8g (Post 9942483)
GJZBB entered service yesterday afternoon on LS265 from Leeds to Malaga.

Hi Garry, do you know what name this one is wearing please? I've not seen any pics of it with it on yet (they leave BFI nameless).:)

pabely 1st Nov 2017 17:10

Jethros have this as "Jet2 Geneva"

GLAinsider 1st Nov 2017 20:40

Hugely disappointing that the first B738 at BFS is G-JZHH which is not one of the brand new aircraft but is 17 years old.

Valued passengers at BFS have put up with ancient B733s forever (now customers in EMA are enjoying the delights of G-GDFB) and Jet2 do not even give them the courtesy of entering the B737-800 age with a brand new aircraft.

Meanwhile the rude, bad mannered, obnoxious but rich customers in STN enjoy the delights of the new fleet. Money certainly talks. Disgraceful.

pamann 1st Nov 2017 21:30

I have read some crap on here through the years, but this! ��

rpmac 1st Nov 2017 21:57

Agreed, comes over as rude, bad mannered, obnoxious........

daz211 1st Nov 2017 22:10

The only disgraceful thing is your attitude and lack of respect
Not only is your comment about STN customers misplaced it is also very immature.
From a business point of view it makes good business sense to place new shiny and reliable aircraft at a new base surly you can understand the reason for this.

01475 1st Nov 2017 23:06

:eek: I assume that on a day they get out the right side of bed they'll want to take that one back!

AirportPlanner1 2nd Nov 2017 07:34


Originally Posted by GLAinsider (Post 9943746)
Meanwhile the rude, bad mannered, obnoxious but rich customers in STN enjoy the delights of the new fleet. Money certainly talks. Disgraceful.

I'd much rather fly with one of them than a drunk and violent Irishman that causes the flight to be diverted. Because every single person from Belfast is like that, aren't they....

Callum Paterson 2nd Nov 2017 07:59

Oh for goodness sake!

The poor Scotch,always whining about how bad they have because of the big bad English people.

Perhaps you should be greatful that Jet2 base 12 aircraft in Central Scotland, supporting hundreds of jobs and providing provide the economic growth that international connectivity brings?

IB4138 2nd Nov 2017 08:10


The poor Scotch,always whining about how bad they have because of the big bad English people.
I always thought Scotch was poured from a bottle and drunk. Too much consumed and you are not fit to fly.

compton3bravo 2nd Nov 2017 08:20

I say chaps can we have a meaningfull discussion about airports, airlines, routes etc please.

ATNotts 2nd Nov 2017 08:54


Hugely disappointing that the first B738 at BFS is G-JZHH which is not one of the brand new aircraft but is 17 years old.
So what, it's 17 years old. If it's properly maintained and the interior kept in good order so that Mr or Mrs Average can't tell how new or old it is what's the issue?

Plane.Silly 2nd Nov 2017 09:34

Might just be that BFS is an established base, whereas BHX/STN are new, so it would make sense to throw the shiny new planes here for the first 2/3 years, to get it established. Then once these are built up, can they look at replacing with newer A/c.

I can't see the 733's lasting too much longer, and will eventually be replaced by 738's. maybe that's your opportunity

chaps1954 2nd Nov 2017 09:58

There are a lot of 738 due over next few months and aircraft are rotated as of need
i:e maintenance and scheduling so things will change.

Refuellerman 2nd Nov 2017 18:08


Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1 (Post 9944061)
I'd much rather fly with one of them than a drunk and violent Irishman that causes the flight to be diverted. Because every single person from Belfast is like that, aren't they....

Youre on the button today sir, not only do irish men and women fly from belfast, british people also fly from belfast, i assume geography isnt a strong point:=

Bam Thwok 3rd Nov 2017 08:55


Originally Posted by Refuellerman (Post 9944632)
Youre on the button today sir, not only do irish men and women fly from belfast, british people also fly from belfast, i assume geography isnt a strong point:=

Strictly tongue in cheek Sir, but your username is very apt in this case.......pouring fuel onto the “Irish/British” debate in that area.
Do I hear the Fifes and Drums in the background ?

GLAinsider......what a rediculous and ill informed post.
I’m sure our wonderful clientele will appreciate the permanent introduction of the 800 into Belfast....however old the a/c.
I’m sure others too will be on the way in the future.

As a pax, the only interior visible differences of being in a “new” airframe is that you might be aware of are the bigger overhead bins and that awful red “tarts boudoir” interior mood lighting.

Flying Wild 3rd Nov 2017 15:05


Originally Posted by Bam Thwok (Post 9945171)
As a pax, the only interior visible differences of being in a “new” airframe is that you might be aware of are the bigger overhead bins and that awful red “tarts boudoir” interior mood lighting.

Easy now... that's been chosen after careful consideration by a highly trained team of 20something year old marketing "experts". I'm sure due dilligence in the form of psychological analysis was applied to the lighting colour choice and it wasn't just a matter of "The company logo colour is red, so lets make the lighting red".

Don't get me started on the sanctimonious new PA announcements. Whoever came up with those must have a very low opinion of the passengers carried by Jet2.

Ivan aromer 3rd Nov 2017 16:38


Originally Posted by Flying Wild (Post 9945578)
Easy now... that's been chosen after careful consideration by a highly trained team of 20something year old marketing "experts". I'm sure due dilligence in the form of psychological analysis was applied to the lighting colour choice and it wasn't just a matter of "The company logo colour is red, so lets make the lighting red".

Don't get me started on the sanctimonious new PA announcements. Whoever came up with those must have a very low opinion of the passengers carried by Jet2.

Yep those must be the same expertsthat came up with " Take me there" and pain points, ugh.
Why do announcements (not just Jet2 it has to be said) use the phrase "at this time" whats wrong with now?
TGIF time for a glass of something alcoholic

DC3 Dave 3rd Nov 2017 16:49

May I suggest red?

Callum Paterson 3rd Nov 2017 18:17

Having not flown with Jet2 since April, can someone elaborate on the new PA announcements?

I must say I'm not a fan of the "old" PA announcements. Always feels like you're being given into trouble and being read the riot act before departure. 99.9999% of passengers don't need a lesson in how to conduct themselves in public.

Refuellerman 3rd Nov 2017 18:26

Im afraid the 00.00001% is why they do it, anybody who has experienced an air rage/alcohol in the air or stag parties will know what i mean, as for jet2 and their policies for no alcohol before 0800, good job ,but stop pushing the sale of it on the tannoy before 0800!

paully 3rd Nov 2017 18:44

I flew with them last month and can`t say I noticed anything different about the PA`s, or maybe I wasn`t listening. Mind you I ticked a lot of the boxes on here of late:
1..I went from Stansted,instead of Leeds, with all those awful posh people
2..I went on a brand new 738 both ways
3..The colour inside was that tarty red boudoir job

Just to make matters worse I loved the large overhead bins and thought the sculpture design of the ceiling, rather nice :D


I`ll er get me coat...........:}

Musket90 3rd Nov 2017 19:27

Stansted Essex, posh people ! It may be the South East but some may question your assessment, however awful may apply to some like any other county ! Jet2 has identified a market and like Yorkshire or any other area they operate from they are providing a choice and I think their branding is becoming more well known in the south now that they expanded their operation.


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