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Plane.Silly 20th Nov 2017 07:48

Please Please, Mr Silly was my father, call me Plane.

But thanks for the info. it's not quite what i'm trying to say, but it's just one opinion, so we'll move on

Nice to see the new deliveries coming through, i believe 2 per month are coming in until April

chaps1954 20th Nov 2017 08:38

Plane Silly As Suzeman and myslf have said ACL allocate slots and if MAG was seen to be favouring one airline over another there would be a big row which would probably cost MAN dearly, they do speak to airlines and suggest that perhaps operating a route that could be over subscribed is not a good idea but Suzeman can probably answer that better me.

garry8g 22nd Nov 2017 17:58

Jet2 Boeing 737-800, G-JZBC should be departing Boeing Field (Seattle) tonight on its overnight delivery flight. Its due to arrive into Leeds 07:30 on tomorrow morning.

OltonPete 23rd Nov 2017 22:01

BHX
 
Which airline is operating one of the BHX based flights next summer - showing as a 220 seat A321 but operating airline Jet2 so I assume Titan?

Saturday it is Malaga in the morning and Las Palmas in the evening

chaps1954 23rd Nov 2017 22:17

Maybe the A321 which did Manchester this year and MAN getting the 2nd A330 which
is due to be MAN based even though rumoured to be L/H

LBIA 23rd Nov 2017 22:19

Jet2 have today added extra flights to Greece & Turkey for peak summer 2018.

Leeds - Kos = Increases from 2x to 3x weekly
Leeds - Corfu = Increase from 2x to 3x weekly
Stansted - Corfu = Increases from 2x to 3x weekly
Manchester - Antalya = Increases from 5x to 6x weekly

A Hol Lot More Greek and Turkish Sunshine! | Jet2.com

LAX_LHR 24th Nov 2017 02:32

Not sure who the A321 operator is, as there is one down to operate a full schedule from STN, another at BHX and one at MAN, unless Titan are acquiring more?

irishlad06 24th Nov 2017 05:23

There are no A321 flights scheduled from MAN next summer.

The base will be
12xB737-800 (1 standby)
7x B757-200ís (1standby)
2xA330-200ís GVYGL & GVYGM

STN will have GPOWN based plus another A321 with 212 seats.

In BHX they may be seeing a primeria A321 with 220seats - Operator TBC

LAX_LHR 24th Nov 2017 06:11

There was an A321 in Chroma the other day, maybe itís been removed again?

LBIA 24th Nov 2017 09:27

Out of interest which aircraft are currently stored at Lasham that Jet2 might have an interest in buying?

chaps1954 24th Nov 2017 09:59

Very little at a guess

LEEDS APPROACH 25th Nov 2017 10:04

Jet2 LBA high Summer service update.

Recent announcement of 1 extra weekly service to both Kos and Corfu. Good news but tempered by that the fact that Zante that was served 4x per week in Summer '17 will now be served just twice a week (a further reduction from the proposed 3x per week).

Good news is that Alicante goes up to 16 services per week in high Summer '18 but tempered by the fact that Palma previously announced to be up 2 flights per week on Summer '17 (to 21x per week) reverts back to 19 services per week.

Basically it is tinkering at the edges which is to be expected at a heavily constrained airport that has induced demand due to its hugely less than ideal location.

Jet2 passenger numbers will be up next year at LBA but will passenger numbers decline at LBA?

Currently 11 additional LS arrivals/departures per week (high Summer '18 over high Summer '17). A net gain of zero new routes. This after the loss of two based Monarch airframes each running multiple services each day.

chaps1954 25th Nov 2017 12:08

Thought you were actually posting something interesting until......Move on there buddy nothing to see, change the script or better retire to Church Fenton

inOban 25th Nov 2017 12:57

If you had omitted your third paragraph your post would have been useful information to which no-one would have had any reason to object. Instead you gave them another opportunity to rise to the bait.

Personally, we have reached the stage in the year when the holiday companies can see the trends for S18, and are adjusting their offers. In the case of Palma, I believe Majorca is trying to limit the number of passengers in peak season, so there may not the beds.

flybar 25th Nov 2017 15:29

There is the addition of a TCX airframe taking up some of the Monarch capacity

Faolpfr 25th Nov 2017 15:55

some forecast for flights to Faro next summer 2018

LBIA 25th Nov 2017 17:53


Originally Posted by LEEDS APPROACH (Post 9968592)
Jet2 LBA high Summer service update.

Recent announcement of 1 extra weekly service to both Kos and Corfu. Good news but tempered by that the fact that Zante that was served 4x per week in Summer '17 will now be served just twice a week (a further reduction from the proposed 3x per week)

Guess you didn't checked why a the number of Zante rotations had been dropped, they are shifting capacity around.

Summer 2017 Leeds-Zante was 4x weekly using Boeing 737-300. When summer 2018 went on sale Leeds-Zante was down as 3x weekly using a mix of 2x Boeing 737-300 & 1x weekly Boeing 737-800. Now its down to 2x weekly but both flights will be operated by Boeing 757-200.

inOban 26th Nov 2017 11:50

I've haven't time to look up the exact capacity of these a/c, but I take it that in S17 they offered around 600 seats pw, that initially for S18 they offered nearly 500, and now around 450?

LBIA 26th Nov 2017 18:59

Yeap inOban,

B733 = 148
B738 = 189
B752 = 235

Leeds - Zante route
Peak summer 2017 - 4x weekly B733 = 592 seats
Initial Summer 2018 release - 2x weekly B733 & 1x weekly 738 = 485 seats
Summer 2018 on sale now - 2x weekly B752 = 470 seats

inOban 26th Nov 2017 19:20

Appreciated. Nothing like having proper numbers to discuss.

LBIA 28th Nov 2017 20:30

So who's operating the 219Y Config Boeing 757-200 to be based LBA next summer 2018 for Jet2?

garry8g 29th Nov 2017 15:56

Will that not be a Titan B757-200 ?

irishlad06 2nd Dec 2017 06:18

Not sure on the LBA B757 operator - doesnít look like Titan as they arenít configure to this.

Looks like BHX will be getting a Smart Lynx A321 y220 seats for summer.

STN is getting 2 A321ís with Y212 config. GPOWN confirmed and another A321 from Titan (sources but to be delivered to them yet)

GVYGL and GVYGM A332ís will be MAN based.

Awaiting confirmation of EC-IDT returning next year to PMI.

garry8g 2nd Dec 2017 08:59

Are the two A330-200's confirmed for Manchester now?
I had heard that they were still trying to source the second one.

Also, are Titan not due to aquire 2 A330's from the Ex-Air Berlin fleet?

Plane.Silly 7th Dec 2017 07:51

From the Newcastle thread


Beatts: Jet2 Rumour is that there are at least 2 new routes still to be announced for next summer 2018 from each base. Could be good.
Anyone know if this is true or want to speculate what these could be?

paully 7th Dec 2017 09:26


Originally Posted by Plane.Silly (Post 9981623)
From the Newcastle thread



Anyone know if this is true or want to speculate what these could be?



Apparantly they have filed slots for timescales that would fit Gibraltar. Speculation elsewhere is strong on this route. The filed intention is to use 757/737 which fit as does the intended flight length. Pure speculation though and could be many more alternative destinations. But good wherever, more options :D

Plane.Silly 7th Dec 2017 09:51

GIB would be interesting. I've mentioned before that i couldn't see much opportunity for their holiday arm on the rock. Still, they've surprised us many times before.

Similar distance would be Seville? To complete their portfolio across the south of Spain and possibly more likely for package holidays

Jerry123 7th Dec 2017 10:02


Originally Posted by Plane.Silly (Post 9981771)
GIB would be interesting. I've mentioned before that i couldn't see much opportunity for their holiday arm on the rock. Still, they've surprised us many times before.

Similar distance would be Seville? To complete their portfolio across the south of Spain and possibly more likely for package holidays

But GIB might fit in as a shorter city break style holiday. Packages for say 3 nights?

Plane.Silly 7th Dec 2017 10:13


But GIB might fit in as a shorter city break style holiday. Packages for say 3 nights?
Very true, i just wasn't aware of there being too many hotels, unless they spill over into Spain.

paully 7th Dec 2017 11:59


Originally Posted by Plane.Silly (Post 9981797)
Very true, i just wasn't aware of there being too many hotels, unless they spill over into Spain.


Gib is very constrained on hotels, although a new Holiday Inn Express is due to open shortly on Devil`s Tower Road (walking distance from the Terminal). Although Gib would be a good fit if Jet2 decided to open up holidays in the beach area between there and Portugal. That said Seville would also fit that purpose with the addition of a very attractive short break destination and virtually no competition.

southside bobby 7th Dec 2017 12:13

STN-GIB could be a fair bet with the demise of MON in the North London Market.

Plane.Silly 7th Dec 2017 12:29

So GIB looks like a good contender.

Based on the distance from LON-GIB at approx 1,750km, Similar distance/ unserved destinations potentially on the radar include
Seville / Jerez - Spain
Naples / Bari / Sardinia - Italy
Podgorica - Montenegro

Depending which way you twist it, could be a potential case for any of these.
Or we could be jumping the gun completely, with it being extra capacity on similar routes...

LAX_LHR 7th Dec 2017 12:37

In terms of possible routes.

GIB could be a contender. Fill in the Monarch gap at MAN/BHX as well as new routes to possibly GLA/STN.

NAP is already served from 6 bases.

Jerez. Thomson used to offer MAN flights, possibly still offer LGW flights, not 100% sure but not sure what the big market appeal could be?

Seville? Most bases seem to be filling in a holiday market role. Seville possibly could t provide the mass volume?

Bari/Sardinia. The southern part of mainland Italy has remained quite sparse on the British tourist scene, with only a handful of routes to the regions from the likes of Bari and Brindisi, they too only recently added.

Podgorica or Tivat could be good beds, Montenegro really on the up and up.

One not mentioned.. Bourgas? Bulgaria seems to be on the up again, with more flights added to Varna and Bourgas from the regions, surely only a matter of time before Jet2 enter the market.

compton3bravo 7th Dec 2017 12:51

I would suggest that of the passengers who fly to/from GiB do no not stop there at all, with passengers crossing the border into/from Spain.Regarding three day breaks in GIB, fair enough, but three hours is often too long for myself and my partner! Cannot see Newcastle being a goer it would have to be Luton or Stansted if anything.

paully 7th Dec 2017 13:08

Bulgaria?..Hmm interesting Lax and does make more sense. Jet2 unlike Monarch do have a business game plan and that centres around their IT business. Gib just doesn`t really fit that, but Bulgaria does.Or who knows,maybe both

MKY661 7th Dec 2017 15:51

As a Regular GIB flyer until Monarch went under I will say that a lot of customers who did use GIB did indeed cross the border to Spain, myself included.

I've heard lots of speculation of this route for the last few Months but I would not be surprised if EasyJet were to start LTN-GIB next summer, plus with the rumours about expanding their MAN base significantly they will possibly increase the frequency from there too.

We shall see I guess, but Jet2 would be a nice addition to GIB.

compton3bravo 7th Dec 2017 18:53

The main problem I can see is the choice of aircraft. With Jet2 operating Boeing 737/757 it is not the ideal aircraft to fly into GIB. I know Enter Air operated a charter into the airport a few months ago, but BA, easy and Monarch have used the A319/20 for a number between of years. A few years ago I was diverted to Malaga as an easy 320 had gone tech, with a Boeing 737 used to take the passengers to Gatwick. It is a captain's only landing at GIB with easy being a captain's departure as well. Unless Jet2 use a Titan Airbus I would very much doubt seeing them in RAF North Gibraltar.

paully 7th Dec 2017 19:36

The 757 is a long standing aircraft of choice at GIB..Monarch used them for some time down there, in the past, as did BA. Some of the recent Monarch repats were used with Titan`s 757. I agree there is a training requirement but Jet2 still have a number of 733`s which are a good fit. Bmi Baby used them there in the past and I understand, that the new 738`s are fitted with the `short field`performance package.

SWBKCB 7th Dec 2017 20:08

Beatts wrote:


Jet2 Rumour is that there are at least 2 new routes still to be announced for next summer 2018 from each base. Could be good.
Paully wrote:


Apparantly they have filed slots for timescales that would fit Gibraltar.
Filed slots from where? Seems many bricks being built with straw!

compton3bravo 7th Dec 2017 20:17

I would suggest the B757 is not a good fit for GIB especially after a Monarch one was almost written off a few years ago with the captain instantly dismissed. After a considerable time it was decided to repair it but apparently it was touch and go (no pun intended).


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