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castleford tiger 14th Aug 2018 07:06


Originally Posted by LBIA (Post 10222839)
Aircraft in question was the leased Titan Airways Boeing 757-200, G-POWH. It suffered an inflight cabin pressure failure https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-e...a4a506734c476c

THANKS for that.

We seem to have issues on this TITAN plane.
I knew someone on board and it was as is standard a pretty rapid decent. Several passengers came home by train.
I found this
https://www.strayfm.com/news/local-n...gency-landing/

I suppose we have brought a further plane in from them to cover?
Still at peak time.

southside bobby 14th Aug 2018 07:18

AWC B763 POWD has been ops from STN for EXS since 10.8...

Nakata77 14th Aug 2018 08:46


Originally Posted by shamrock7seal (Post 10223045)
Bristol is absolutely stunning in terms of pax and destinations - but it already has 15 easyJet based aircraft and 4 with Ryanair. Thomas Cook and TUI also base up to 7/8 aircraft at the airport so perhaps it wouldn't be a good choice for yet another bucket and spade operator? Jet2 have proven that they can effectively compete with Ryanair but the dilution effect of a sizeable Jet2 base at BRS on the other carriers based there could be dangerous for BRS and they may be cautious with a deal. The new CEO at BRS knows this all too well coming from SOU. CWL would be interesting since the airport would be hungry for them for sure. BOH is vacant.

Jet2 captures the North Bristol market at Birmingham. Possible a base at BRS could be good, but would see Birmingham affected.

BOH would be ideal - It competes with LGW and LHR where Jet2 have absolutely no plans and where most of the leakage occurs. It compliments STN and offers SOU catchment a close enough alternative

irishlad06 14th Aug 2018 08:48


Originally Posted by southside bobby (Post 10223132)
AWC B763 POWD has been ops from STN for EXS since 10.8...


GPOWD operates every week from STN for LS. This is always planned.

sixchannel 14th Aug 2018 09:29

For the unknowing - -
 
sorry - what does AWC acronym stand for?

awwdabaaby 14th Aug 2018 09:42

Flight code for Titan

sixchannel 14th Aug 2018 09:44


Originally Posted by awwdabaaby (Post 10223261)
Flight code for Titan

Thank you, sir.

sixchannel 14th Aug 2018 17:09


Originally Posted by Nakata77 (Post 10223201)
Jet2 captures the North Bristol market at Birmingham. Possible a base at BRS could be good, but would see Birmingham affected.

It sure does from Worcester / Gloucster area anyway.
Its quicker to get to EMA from there than BRS - lousy road infrastructure.
So normally I go BHX - FUE or EMA - FUE if their flight timings are OK. Love the 11am departure ex-EMA.

FrequentlyFlying 14th Aug 2018 17:29

An empty BOH could well be a South/South West answer, just curious how well Jet2 utilise a base aircraft - know very little about them tbf - I see see the FR based plane in summer well used off v early and ping ponging back late 11pm - so is also part of the appeal of BOH complementing Stansted not just the parking space but also that the schedule (ATC given) is pretty much empty?

Johnny F@rt Pants 14th Aug 2018 17:52


just curious how well Jet2 utilise a base aircraft
Jet2 generally operate 2 rotations per day, occasionally 3 rotations if the day involves short(ish) flights.

MerchantVenturer 14th Aug 2018 18:08


Originally Posted by shamrock7seal (Post 10223045)
Bristol is absolutely stunning in terms of pax and destinations - but it already has 15 easyJet based aircraft and 4 with Ryanair. Thomas Cook and TUI also base up to 7/8 aircraft at the airport so perhaps it wouldn't be a good choice for yet another bucket and spade operator? Jet2 have proven that they can effectively compete with Ryanair but the dilution effect of a sizeable Jet2 base at BRS on the other carriers based there could be dangerous for BRS and they may be cautious with a deal. The new CEO at BRS knows this all too well coming from SOU. CWL would be interesting since the airport would be hungry for them for sure. BOH is vacant.

You might be right about BRS's attitude towards a significant new presence such as Jet2. The previous BRS CEO said publicly that the airport's preferred choice is to grow using existing airline partners in the main. This still seems to be the strategy as the airport continues its major public consultation on its new master plan and the way forward over the next 30 years.

The airport has grown from 6.3 mppa in 2014 to a likely 8.6 mppa in 2018 using its existing airline partners, the main ones you identify. The airport's projections are 10 mppa by 2021 and 12 mppa by 2025*. Whether this can be achieved by concentrating mainly on current BRS airlines remains to be seen.

* currently the airport is restricted to 10 mppa by its planning consents but an application will be made to the local authority to have this limit raised.

sixchannel 14th Aug 2018 20:15

Air Test
 

Originally Posted by sixchannel (Post 10222845)
Love that expression "dropped" thousands of feet. Makes it sound like an elevator.
Rescue flight (lol) G-LSAE (757) flew MAN - BOD late Friday afternoon, then BOD - LBA getting everyone home before 10pm.
G-POWH left Bordeaux bright and early on Sunday morning 12/8 for STN not above 10k. Obviously now at the Menders.
Great recovery by Jet2.

POWH currently on Air Test over Norfolk and North Sea at 36k. (@21.00)

caaardiff 14th Aug 2018 20:33


Originally Posted by sixchannel (Post 10223643)
It sure does from Worcester / Gloucster area anyway.
Its quicker to get to EMA from there than BRS - lousy road infrastructure.
So normally I go BHX - FUE or EMA - FUE if their flight timings are OK. Love the 11am departure ex-EMA.

At BRS TUI have grown from 2 757's to 2x 757's, 2 737's and 1 787 (part week). TCX have grown to 3x A321
At CWL TUI currently have 2x 737's which will increase to 3x 737's Summer 2019. TCX have 1x A320
At EXT TUI have 1x 737

I have no doubt that some from the Southwest/South Wales use BHX and probably MAN and LGW if the price is right, but if Jet2 really wanted to take on the competition in the region a BRS or CWL base would be necessary. I can't imagine they are attracting that many people from the Southwest which would affect the BHX base too much. BOH isn't really ideally placed to serve the whole of the Southwest & South Wales.
BRS is currently suffering from infrastructure issues (Stands/Gate availability) which could limit how many aircraft a new Airline could base but is growing at a rapid pace (6m pax in 2014 to nearly 8.5m currently, 15 based aircraft for EZY with talks of continued growth from them (Which TUI and Thomas Cook use for an increasing number of packages on). CWL will have a smaller share of the market but has the space to accommodate and is crying out for a new Airline that can offer both package holiday destinations and city breaks.

sixchannel 14th Aug 2018 20:56


Originally Posted by sixchannel (Post 10223791)
POWH currently on Air Test over Norfolk and North Sea at 36k. (@21.00)

Update - landed LBA 21.53.

shamrock7seal 15th Aug 2018 06:08

caaardiff - fully agree. I think Jet2 could do with a SW base (CWL for sure or BRS if they can get a deal) and a BOH base the latter which would compliment their STN operation well as LGW is full, LHR is not a short-term option and LTN is too close to STN. BOH/SOU have a larger population than BRS when combined and could be a good base from which to draw upon central SE UK. If the fare is good enough people drive from at least 2.5hrs distance or more.

Gurnard 15th Aug 2018 08:38


Originally Posted by sixchannel (Post 10223822)
Update - landed LBA 21.53.

All better now? G-POWH back in service today LBA-Larnaca.

castleford tiger 16th Aug 2018 06:35

I think BOD/SOU due to space is the favoured option. I will plug away at the AGM to see if they will update. Very doubtful for next summer but 2020 I think they will get a new base.
Very surprised to see passenger numbers at Bristol so much higher than LBA where JET 2 is the dominant carrier by far.
Clearly must have more stands etc ( never used it) as LBA looks pretty much up to capacity overnight and for the first wave out.
G-POWH had an uneventful flight yesterday so hopefully the issue is fixed.
For my education what are the most likely causes of loss of cabin pressure?

Tiger

shamrock7seal 16th Aug 2018 07:20


Originally Posted by castleford tiger (Post 10225073)
I think BOD/SOU due to space is the favoured option. I will plug away at the AGM to see if they will update. Very doubtful for next summer but 2020 I think they will get a new base.
Very surprised to see passenger numbers at Bristol so much higher than LBA where JET 2 is the dominant carrier by far.
Clearly must have more stands etc ( never used it) as LBA looks pretty much up to capacity overnight and for the first wave out.
G-POWH had an uneventful flight yesterday so hopefully the issue is fixed.
For my education what are the most likely causes of loss of cabin pressure?

Tiger


Why doubtful next summer? Aircraft and crew shortages?

castleford tiger 16th Aug 2018 09:29


Originally Posted by shamrock7seal (Post 10225104)
Why doubtful next summer? Aircraft and crew shortages?

Would they not be selling them now in advance?

tiger

southside bobby 19th Aug 2018 18:43

For the record B757 `POWH has arrived back at STN as AWC757P this evening from LBA.

A few infilling airframes for the Jet2 STN base this busy w/end too (planned or otherwise).

ETOPS 20th Aug 2018 06:26

Any ideas how long an EU261 claim takes with Jet2? Suffered a near 4 hour delay earlier this month - peppered with some fantasy estimates from the handling agent :rolleyes:
I'm only getting automated responses from customer services and I'm loathe to involve the various flight crew I know.........

Service was LS874 from FAO to MAN 8th Aug. Original 'frame went tech and G-LSAC was positioned in from LBA to MAN leading to the long wait - didn't get to bed before 5am.

irishlad06 20th Aug 2018 07:08


Originally Posted by southside bobby (Post 10228195)
For the record B757 `POWH has arrived back at STN as AWC757P this evening from LBA.

A few infilling airframes for the Jet2 STN base this busy w/end too (planned or otherwise).


gone back for planned maintenance - was always planned.

sixchannel 20th Aug 2018 08:00


Originally Posted by ETOPS (Post 10228518)
Any ideas how long an EU261 claim takes with Jet2? Suffered a near 4 hour delay earlier this month - peppered with some fantasy estimates from the handling agent :rolleyes:
I'm only getting automated responses from customer services and I'm loathe to involve the various flight crew I know.........

Service was LS874 from FAO to MAN 8th Aug. Original 'frame went tech and G-LSAC was positioned in from LBA to MAN leading to the long wait - didn't get to bed before 5am.

Well FWIW, back in April '16 when Emirates had just started their A380 BHX-DBX flights, the shiny new aluminium overcast went tech at BHX. The resultant delay was 7.1/2 hours whilst another A380 was ferried in (from LHR I think).
I used www.resolver.co.uk to put in my Claim and got paid out the full flight cost compensation of the entire BHX-DBX-SYD as Emrates were responsible for us missing our onward connections in DBX by many hours and so a considerable delay there before we could fly on to SYD.
Its free to use and we were paid out in 8 weeks. Dont know if that's good or bad - just sayin'.
HTH

sixchannel 20th Aug 2018 08:50


Originally Posted by Council Van (Post 10228601)
Not only would it be rude to ask the flight crew you know to get involved quite what do you expect them to achieve on your behalf?

If I was one of the right crew you knew I would have politely decline your request for help.

"Politely decline" - love the euphemism. Lol! But then again, on all my Jet2 trips so far I've never come across any crew, cabin or flight, who have been less than lovely.

ssflyer 20th Aug 2018 09:39

[ But then again, on all my Jet2 trips so far I've never come across any crew, cabin or flight, who have been less than lovely. ]
Plus a big 1 to that...
SS

paully 20th Aug 2018 12:55


Originally Posted by ssflyer (Post 10228658)
[ But then again, on all my Jet2 trips so far I've never come across any crew, cabin or flight, who have been less than lovely. ]
Plus a big 1 to that...
SS

May I add another plus to that please

Trav a la 20th Aug 2018 12:57


Originally Posted by ETOPS (Post 10228518)
Any ideas how long an EU261 claim takes with Jet2? Suffered a near 4 hour delay earlier this month - peppered with some fantasy estimates from the handling agent :rolleyes:
I'm only getting automated responses from customer services and I'm loathe to involve the various flight crew I know.........

Service was LS874 from FAO to MAN 8th Aug. Original 'frame went tech and G-LSAC was positioned in from LBA to MAN leading to the long wait - didn't get to bed before 5am.

Jet2 can really dig their heels in sometime, particularly if it's a contentious claim. In your case tho this appears to be a straightforward claim due to a tec issue. If you use their website it may be quicker as not all airlines respond to Resolver. You can push Jet2 along with a Notice Before Action if they don't come back to you in a reasonable time span and follow that with MCOL if required.

I have an outstanding claim with them myself.

ETOPS 20th Aug 2018 16:50


it be rude to ask the flight crew you know
That's why I used the word "loathe" :ugh:

Thanks Trav a la have already mentioned the relevant court cases they lost and my eagerness to pursue this.

Will let you know how I get on - but I won't be calling PM :eek:

SARF 24th Aug 2018 12:46

Flew Jet 2 for the first time this August.. from Stansted..
9.5 out of 10. From check in onwards.

OltonPete 24th Aug 2018 21:32

Delays
 
A difficult day with delays at Leeds, Manchester and to a lesser extent Newcastle with the Birmingham 9th aircraft positioning to Leeds this evening to try and help recover the schedule on LBA - ALC which got away 4hr15min late. I assume the Titan 757 has something to do with this, as it landed 15.15 at LBA and has not moved since?

However the Calvary is on its way with "HD" out of Lasham maintenance this afternoon and I assume after an air-test it landed back in Manchester this evening (3 weeks out of service) and their newest addition to the fleet is literally just airborne from Seattle BFI on delivery.

The Newcastle - Dalaman aircraft which diverted to Manchester Thursday did operate Manchester - Dalaman and then Dalaman - Newcastle tonight so another one not out of service for too long.

Hopefully all this will help get the schedules back on track.

Pete

castleford tiger 27th Aug 2018 11:51

The titan 757 has caused a fair few problems this year. This was the one that caused several passengers to train home just about 2 weeks ago.
We also lost a 737 due into Leeds but landed Manc after needing a longer runway due to a failure on flaps.
Titan should really be providing another plane till its sorted out.
Its been grounded 3 times now in a month due to tech issues.
tiger

sixchannel 28th Aug 2018 18:28


Originally Posted by castleford tiger (Post 10234350)
We also lost a 737 due into Leeds but landed Manc after needing a longer runway due to a failure of flap
tiger

That was G-GDFP, ex - Heraklion and according to The Sun etc etc was full of terrified Pax convinced they were about to die in a fiery inferno. And not even in Yorkshire either. ;-)
Now according to same junk journal it has been "withdrawn from service until the issue is resolved".
Well, no sh*t Sherlock!!

shamrock7seal 29th Aug 2018 01:21

So is BOH 2019 or 2020? So many people 'in the know' seem to have originally been throwing about S19 and now it's changed to S20

Plane.Silly 29th Aug 2018 12:06


So is BOH 2019 or 2020? So many people 'in the know' seem to have originally been throwing about S19 and now it's changed to S20
BOH is just wild speculation, they have enough on their plates with the 9 bases they currently have.
I'd be surprised with S20 TBH. Barring any glaring opportunities they have the jump on, i'd peg S21/S22 for ANY new base, not just BOH

SWBKCB 29th Aug 2018 12:19


Originally Posted by shamrock7seal (Post 10235880)
So is BOH 2019 or 2020? So many people 'in the know' seem to have originally been throwing about S19 and now it's changed to S20

As far as I'm aware, this is the only public statement on the subject -


Speaking to TTG at the tour operator’s 2018 conference launch last week, head of trade sales Alan Cross said.... ....after Jet2 expanded to Stansted and Birmingham last year, it was focused, for now, on ensuring that these bases achieve their full potential rather than pursuing new ones. “It was a huge thing to get in there and establish ourselves,” said Cross. “It’s our second year at these bases. A lot of our time and focus has gone on them achieving their full potential. We're busy enough with them right now rather than thinking about any further expansion or bases in the UK at this time.”
https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/news/j...c-demand-14320

castleford tiger 29th Aug 2018 15:56

UK's Jet2 to lease in B767 capacity in 3Q18

any truth in this?

Tiger

sixchannel 29th Aug 2018 16:08


Originally Posted by castleford tiger (Post 10236481)
UK's Jet2 to lease in B767 capacity in 3Q18

any truth in this?

Tiger

Jet2 are already using Titan G-POWD on some STN flights. If I were a betting betting man, and if it were true, thats where my money would go but isnt 3Q a bit late for peak traffic.

Plane.Silly 30th Aug 2018 11:18

Might be to cover some maintenance. They do have more of their planes out during winder for maintenance/ checks. But that again, It's extra capacity, so unless they've got some amazing loads, it would be surprising if there were any truth

LBIA 30th Aug 2018 12:00

B763, G-POWD has being operating out of STN on lease to Jet2 most weekends during July and August.

LBIA 30th Aug 2018 16:04

The owners of The Mint Office in Leeds City Centre which houses Jet2 offices has listed the building on open market, they are looking to sell for around £45 million.
Wonder if Jet2/Dart Group might take the opportunity to snap it up themselves?

The Mint offices in Leeds hit the market for £45m | TheBusinessDesk.com


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